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    Putin and "democratic" Russia are at it again

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1795570.html

    Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22, Maria Alekhina, 24, and Yekaterina Samutsevich, 30, stood in handcuffs in a glass cage in the courtroom for three hours as the judge read the verdict. They smiled sadly as the judge recounted testimony of prosecution witnesses accusing them of sacrilege and "devilish dances" in church and said that their feminist views made them hate the Orthodox religion.

    Tolokonnikova laughed out loud when the judge read the testimony of a psychologist who said that her "active stance on social issues" was an anomaly.

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    both sides are sincere. it won't be pretty.

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    I'd like to riot in her pussy

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    Criminalizing Dissent

    I was on the 15th floor of the Southern U.S. District Court in New York in the courtroom of Judge Katherine Forrest last Tuesday. It was the final hearing in the lawsuit I brought in January against President Barack Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. I filed the suit, along with lawyers Carl J. Mayer and Bruce I. Afran, over Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). We were late joined by six co-plaintiffs including Noam Chomsky and Daniel Ellsberg.

    This section of the NDAA, signed into law by Obama on Dec. 31, 2011, obliterates some of our most important cons utional protections. It authorizes the executive branch to order the military to seize U.S. citizens deemed to be terrorists or associated with terrorists. Those taken into custody by the military, which becomes under the NDAA a domestic law enforcement agency, can be denied due process and habeas corpus and held indefinitely in military facilities. Any activist or dissident, whose rights were once protected under the First Amendment, can be threatened under this law with indefinite incarceration in military prisons, including our offshore penal colonies. The very name of the law itself -- the Homeland Battlefield Bill -- suggests the totalitarian credo of endless war waged against enemies within "the homeland" as well as those abroad.

    "The essential thrust of the NDAA is to create a system of justice that violates the separation of powers," Mayer told the court. ...[The Obama administration has] taken detention out of the judicial branch and put it under the executive branch."

    In May, Judge Forrest issued a temporary injunction invalidating Section 1021 as a violation of the First and Fifth amendments. It was a courageous decision. Forrest will decide within a couple of weeks whether she will make the injunction permanent.

    In last week's proceeding, the judge, who appeared from her sharp questioning of government attorneys likely to nullify the section, cited the forced internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II as a precedent she did not want to follow. Forrest read to the courtroom a dissenting opinion by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson in Korematsu v. United States, a ruling that authorized the detention during the war of some 110,00 Japanese-Americans in government "relocation camps."

    "[E]ven if they were permissible military procedures, I deny that it follows that they are cons utional," Jackson wrote in his 1944 dissent. "If, as the Court holds, it does follow, then we may as well say that any military order will be cons utional, and have done with it."

    Barack Obama's administration has appealed Judge Forrest's temporary injunction and would certainly appeal a permanent injunction. It is a stunning admission by this president that he will do nothing to protect our cons utional rights. The administration's added failure to restore habeas corpus, its use of the Espionage Act six times to silence government whistle-blowers, its support of the FISA Amendment Act -- which permits warrantless wiretapping, monitoring and eavesdropping on U.S. citizens -- and its ordering of the assassination of U.S. citizens under the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force, or AUMF, is a signal that for all his rhetoric, Obama, like his Republican rivals, is determined to remove every impediment to the unchecked power of the security and surveillance state. I and the six other plaintiffs, who include reporters, professors and activists, will most likely have to continue this fight in an appellate court and perhaps the Supreme Court.

    The language of the bill is terrifyingly vague. It defines a "covered person" -- one subject to detention -- as "a person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces." The bill, however, does not define the terms "substantially supported," "directly supported" or "associated forces."

    In defiance of more than 200 earlier laws of domestic policing, this act holds that any member of a group deemed by the state to be a terrorist organization, whether it is a Palestinian charity or a Black Bloc anarchist unit, can be seized and held by the military. Mayer stressed this point in the court Wednesday when he cited the sedition convictions of peace activists during World War I who distributed leaflets calling to end the war by halting the manufacturing of munitions. Mayer quoted Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes' dissenting 1919 opinion. We need to "be eternally vigilant against attempts to check the expression of opinions that we loathe," the justice wrote.

    The Justice Department's definition of a potential terrorism suspect under the Patriot Act is already extremely broad. It includes anyone with missing fingers, someone who has weatherproof ammunition and guns, and anyone who has hoarded more than seven days of food. This would make a few of my relatives in rural Maine and their friends, if the government so decided, prime terrorism suspects.

    Assistant U.S. Attorney Benjamin Torrance argued in court that the government already has the authority to strip citizens of their cons utional rights. He cited the execution of Nazi saboteur Richard Quirin during World War II, saying the case was "completely within the Cons ution." He then drew a connection between that case and the AUMF, which the Obama White House argues permits the government to detain and assassinate U.S. citizens they deem to be terrorists. Torrance told the court that judicial interpretation of the AUMF made it identical to the NDAA, which led the judge to ask him why it was necessary for the government to defend the NDAA if that was indeed the case. Torrance, who fumbled for answers before the judge's questioning, added that the United States does not differentiate under which law it holds military detainees. Judge Forrest, looking incredulous, said that if this was actually true the government could be found in contempt of court for violating orders prohibiting any detention under the NDAA.

    Forrest quoted to the court Alexander Hamilton, who argued that judges must place "the power of the people" over legislative will.

    "Nor does this conclusion by any means suppose a superiority of the judicial to the legislative power," Hamilton, writing under the pseudonym Publius, said in Federalist No. 78. "It only supposes that the power of the people is superior to both; and that where the will of the legislature, declared in its statutes, stands in opposition to that of the people, declared in the Cons ution, the judges ought to be governed by the latter rather than the former. They ought to regulate their decisions by the fundamental laws, rather than by those which are not fundamental."

    Contrast this crucial debate in a federal court with the empty campaign rhetoric and chatter that saturate the airwaves. The cant of our political theater, the ridiculous obsessions over vice presidential picks or celebrity gossip that dominate the news industry, effectively masks the march toward corporate totalitarianism. The corporate state has convinced the masses, in essence, to clamor for their own enslavement.

    There is, in reality, no daylight between Mitt Romney and Obama about the inner workings of the corporate state. They each support this section within the NDAA and the widespread extinguishing of civil liberties. They each will continue to funnel hundreds of billions of wasted dollars to defense contractors, intelligence agencies and the military. They each intend to let Wall Street loot the U.S. Treasury with impunity. Neither will lift a finger to help the long-term unemployed and underemployed, those losing their homes to foreclosures or bank repossessions, those filing for bankruptcy because of medical bills or college students burdened by crippling debt. Listen to the anguished cries of partisans on either side of the election divide and you would think this was a battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. You would think voting in the rigged political theater of the corporate state actually makes a difference. The charade of junk politics is there not to offer a choice but to divert the crowd while our corporate masters move relentlessly forward, unimpeded by either party, to turn all dissent into a crime.

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Cri...20813-268.html

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    From what I've gathered, the only reason these ladies got such a long sentence is due to the media coverage and so Putin wouldn't look 'weak'

    I realize this isn't really big news, nor is it something unique in Russia as a whole (ridiculous sentences that don't fit the crime), but I suppose it outlines the continuing efforts of this government to squash free-speech and dissent.

    I wonder what it will take to wake more Russians up to what is going on (like a collapse of the oil & gas markets, maybe?) or if they're so conditioned to this type of thing that they don't care

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    From what I've gathered, the only reason these ladies got such a long sentence is due to the media coverage and so Putin wouldn't look 'weak'...
    Actually the majority of media here seems to agree that the international uproar forced them to prosecute the girls for a lesser crime that carries a max penalty of "only" 3 years in jail (as opposed to the original 7).
    Putin did that so he wouldn't appear inhuman. ()
    Make no mistake a large portion of the Russian population support the verdict.

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    What was the crime?

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    They sang a punk song (I believe they called it a punk prayer) asking the virgin Mary to liberate them from Putin in the main Moscow cathedral. Of course they didn't have the church's permission.

    They were charged with all sort of things. Vandalism, subversive behavior, inciting violence...

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    Actually the majority of media here seems to agree that the international uproar forced them to prosecute the girls for a lesser crime that carries a max penalty of "only" 3 years in jail (as opposed to the original 7).
    Putin did that so he wouldn't appear inhuman. ()
    Make no mistake a large portion of the Russian population support the verdict.
    so basically, since many of the dumbass peasants are hardcore followers of the orthodox church, and the orthodox church swings on Putins balls, then therefor they support this travesty of justice?

    it's really no wonder why Russia continues to suck, especially in terms of civil rights and a fair judicial process

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    What was the crime?


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    Russia allows us to answer the question, "What would happen if you had a society with 21st-century technology and 17th-century values?"

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    lol, homeland security is rollin' today

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    so basically, since many of the dumbass peasants are hardcore followers of the orthodox church, and the orthodox church swings on Putins balls, then therefor they support this travesty of justice?...

    Pretty much.

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    russia allows us to answer the question, "what would happen if you had a society with 20th-century technology and 18th-century values?"
    fify

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    Is outrage.

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    uh, russia, right?.......ok

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