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    http://news.yahoo.com/presented-lett...-politics.html

    After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

    As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

    "I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

    Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

    "I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

    But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

    "The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."

    In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

    The letters were first obtained by The Wall Street Journal through the Freedom of Information Act back in early 2010. The Boston Globe turned them up for the first time during this campaign season Wednesday. At that point, a Ryan aide referred ABC News back to what a Ryan spokesman said when the letters first went public.

    "If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin en y applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate cons uent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

    Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

    "After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as cons uent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

    "Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

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    Directing money the government intends to spend, anyway, back to your cons uents, while arguing against the spending, in the first place, isn't hypocrisy.

    Just ask Ron Paul.

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    that's about the 3rd or 4th time that's posted. I doubt any right-wingers read it even once.

    and govt-hating Ryan's wealthy family got that way for generations with govt contracts.

    and Ryan defended on Thursday his $700B cut in Medicare by saying he did it because it was already in Obamacare!

    Huge difference is the ACA cuts payments to for-profit gougers and the Repugs' corporate welfare known as Medicare Advantage, while Ryan's $700B screws Medicare recipients.

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    @ Yoni spinning this

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    Directing money the government intends to spend, anyway, back to your cons uents, while arguing against the spending, in the first place, isn't hypocrisy.

    Just ask Ron Paul.
    Ron Paul is a hypocrite too.

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    @ Yoni spinning this
    What? Wasn't that Paul's excuse for accepting earmarks?

    It's only hypocrisy if the government wouldn't turn around and give the money to someone else.

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    What? Wasn't that Paul's excuse for accepting earmarks?

    It's only hypocrisy if the government wouldn't turn around and give the money to someone else.

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    Intelligent response. Slow Joe Biden coaching you again?

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    Other ideological, govt-hating Repug sociopaths have REFUSED Federal govt funds.

    Why didn't Ryan?

    He's a fraud.

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    Other ideological, govt-hating Repug sociopaths have REFUSED Federal govt funds.

    Why didn't Ryan?

    He's a fraud.
    Well, his explanation is that the requests were handled as cons uent service requests and, I'm sure he gets a number of those. He indicates that had he been aware of them, he would have handled it differently. I know that's not good enough for the haters but, it's a reasonable response.

    And, Ron Paul suggests a Congressman should recover as much of his cons uents' tax dollars, from the federal government, as possible. A principle to which I subscribe.

    Ron Paul Takes on Earmarks

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    Intelligent response. Slow Joe Biden coaching you again?
    Keep that , Yoni

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    And lol @ Ron Paul does it too, so it's ok!

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    And lol @ Ron Paul does it too, so it's ok!
    I'd say it's the next best thing to government not spending the money in the first place.

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    I'd say it's the next best thing to government not spending the money in the first place.
    You're just as much of a hypocrite. No doubt you think that's the next best thing.

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    In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.
    Stimulus doesn't work!

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    I'd say it's the next best thing to government not spending the money in the first place.
    but Repugs say the govt simply can't, impossible!!, create jobs and wealth!!

    Ryan's a ing fraud.

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    You're just as much of a hypocrite. No doubt you think that's the next best thing.
    Well, if YOU couldn't stop the government from overtaxing your cons uents and overspending, what would be the next best thing?

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    Well, if YOU couldn't stop the government from overtaxing your cons uents and overspending, what would be the next best thing?
    I'm not in a position to write letters requesting stimulus money. Big government Ryan is.

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    Well, if YOU couldn't stop the government from overtaxing your cons uents and overspending, what would be the next best thing?
    Explain your definition of over-taxed. Whatever it is, most Americans disagree with you: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1714/taxes.aspx

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    I'm not in a position to write letters requesting stimulus money. Big government Ryan is.
    Let's pretend people in your district were stupid enough to elect you their Representative.

    What would be the second best thing to preventing the over-taxation and spending, in the first place?

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    Let's pretend people in your district were stupid enough to elect you their Representative.
    We don't have to pretend anything, since this isn't about me.

    This is about Big Government Ryan and his hypocrisy.

    Keep that .

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    spin, Yoni, spin

    Ryan's a fraud

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    deficit hawk?

    Paul Ryan Voted to Add $6.8 Trillion to the Federal Debt

    From 2001 to 2008, Congress passed legislation that increased the national deficit by a total of $4 trillion — the number grows to $6 trillion if you add in the how much those policies have cost through 2011. Ryan voted for 90 percent of these deficit increasing bills.

    What did Ryan vote to spend on? Here is a break-down of his votes [2]:

    – Beginning with the Bush tax cuts, since 2001 Ryan has voted to add$2.5 trillion worth of tax cuts to the deficit.

    – In the last 11 years, Paul Ryan voted for every bill that called for an increase in defense spending. In total, this has added $1.9 trillion to the deficit.

    – Paul Ryan also voted to increase non-defense discretionary spending — the very thing he is pushing to cut now. He voted to spend $270 billion on Medicare Part D (all of which was unpaid for). He also added $80 billion to the deficit by voting for an agriculture bill in 2002, and he added another $20 billion in 2003 when he voted for changes to military retirement. Lastly, he voted for increased borrowing authority for flood insurance, adding yet another $17 billion to the deficit.



    http://www.alternet.org/print/hot-ne...n-federal-debt

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    let me pile on..

    In his Tuesday interview with Fox News' Brit Hume, Ryan put all of his evasion skills to work. Hume repeatedly pressed Ryan on what, exactly, the Romney-Ryan budget plan would look like, but despite Ryan's confident assertions that this plan "is about offering solutions to get us back on track, create jobs, balance the budget, get people back to work," when it came to the details of how many jobs, over how long a period, with what kind of service cuts or revenue sources, there was really no there there.

    Ryan dodged and ducked, from "We can get into complicated baseline issues, but ..." to "I don't know exactly when it balances, but—I don't want to get wonky on you, but we haven't run the numbers on that specific plan." Ryan ran away from his own House budgets, basically responding to Hume's repeated questions about Ryan's budget by saying, "That's old stuff! why are you asking me about old stuff? I'm promoting the Romney-Ryan plan now, and we haven't run the numbers on that."

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    let me pile on..

    In his Tuesday interview with Fox News' Brit Hume, Ryan put all of his evasion skills to work. Hume repeatedly pressed Ryan on what, exactly, the Romney-Ryan budget plan would look like, but despite Ryan's confident assertions that this plan "is about offering solutions to get us back on track, create jobs, balance the budget, get people back to work," when it came to the details of how many jobs, over how long a period, with what kind of service cuts or revenue sources, there was really no there there.

    Ryan dodged and ducked, from "We can get into complicated baseline issues, but ..." to "I don't know exactly when it balances, but—I don't want to get wonky on you, but we haven't run the numbers on that specific plan." Ryan ran away from his own House budgets, basically responding to Hume's repeated questions about Ryan's budget by saying, "That's old stuff! why are you asking me about old stuff? I'm promoting the Romney-Ryan plan now, and we haven't run the numbers on that."
    The Romney-Ryan Plan != The Ryan Plan.

    What's so hard to figure out?

    , Obama doesn't even have a plan.

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