Did TD EVER have a worst supporting cast than this?

[LkrFan]

ChokeKC is a joke tbh, but let's not pretend this Lakers team is the '96 Bulls either....

Not acting like they are either. Just stating the obvious upgrades tbh. Trust me, that 72-10 record is safe and will be for a long long time.

[LkrFan]

Duncan had weak supporting casts in 2000 and especially 2001.

Wouldn't matter if y'all had prime Admiral. No one was denying the 2001 Lakers. If not for that fluky game 1 v. AI in the Finals, they sweep through those playoffs.

[dbreiden83080]

PG position (biggest hole): upgraded. Center position: upgraded. Worst bench in the league: upgraded. Back up SG position: upgraded.

Nash is almost 40 and you might as well put a crash test dummy on the floor when he is on D.. You'll have Artest chasing Westbrook all over the court or 34 year old Kobe with a bad knee as Brown tries to hide Nash's non-existant D..

Howard on paper looks better than Bynum but he only is defensively. Offensively he is a downgrade. Howard has no jumper, relies on power moves and can't make any FT's.. Not someone you want with the ball down the stretch..

IMO Kobe is way too old to beat Lebron at this stage.. It is too late. Lebron is over his finals mishaps and is soaring into the prime of his career.. Kobe is well past his prime. This is Not a showdown he can win anymore..

[ElNono]

Was TD the clearcut best Spur during the 2007 Finals? Your answer will reveal your true colors tbh. Now that .

But now you're cherry picking on a mismatch on one series. We're definitely not in the Finals that year without TD. In this day and age, with his decline in full swing, he's still the best big defender we have.

[ElNono]

Duncan had weak supporting casts in 2000 and especially 2001. Are you forgetting the Chucky Brown era?

Nah... what I'm saying is that superstar leaders in their primes take their supporting cast, and lead them to the playoffs and, depending on the quality of the cast, beyond.

Tim did it. Shaq did it. Even Lebron did it.

I just hope Dwight's back is ok, because there's a lot to carry there, tbh...

[ElNono]

Could you imagine a Shaq, Duncan or Lebron in their primes posting a 42-40 record? I can't.

[ElNono]

As a matter of fact, I'm claiming that schtick for this season... The 42-40

[Trainwreck2100]

Was TD the clearcut best Spur during the 2007 Finals? Your answer will reveal your true colors tbh. Now that .

Parker got MVP cause Mike Brown expected Parker to do what he always does and wilt in the the playoffs, he had a plethora or open looks. Poor mike brown that was the one series in parker's life where he showed up.

[namlook]

LOL at the "Kobe the role player" trolling. Bwhahaha. And people think no one sees through this.

[racm]

Could you imagine a Shaq, Duncan or Lebron in their primes posting a 42-40 record? I can't.

Duncan carried the Spurs to a 58-24 record with TOSB Robinson/Porter and a bunch of scrubs.

Prime Shaq carried the Lakers to 67 wins and a ring and Kobe had yet to become lethal.

Prime LeBron just carried an injured Wade and Bosh to a ring.

[LkrFan]

Could you imagine a Shaq, Duncan or Lebron in their primes posting a 42-40 record? I can't.

None of their teams had whack ass teammates like det pic in the OP.

[LkrFan]

Nah... what I'm saying is that superstar leaders in their primes take their supporting cast, and lead them to the playoffs and, depending on the quality of the cast, beyond.

Tim did it. Shaq did it. Even Lebron did it.

I just hope Dwight's back is ok, because there's a lot to carry there, tbh...

- good one. But like Pau before him (ringless), how can it be said that Dwight will have to carry the Lakers?

[LkrFan]

Nah... what I'm saying is that superstar leaders in their primes take their supporting cast, and lead them to the playoffs and, depending on the quality of the cast, beyond.

Tim did it. Shaq did it. Even Lebron did it.

I just hope Dwight's back is ok, because there's a lot to carry there, tbh...

Wait wait wait. LeBron made it through the NCAA level EC that year. What happened when he got to the big dance?

You guys will leave no stones unturned when trying to discredit Kobe. Kind of hypocrital when he is the most polarizing NBA player on this site.

[LkrFan]

Duncan carried the Spurs to a 58-24 record with TOSB Robinson/Porter and a bunch of scrubs.

Prime Shaq carried the Lakers to 67 wins and a ring and Kobe had yet to become lethal.

Prime LeBron (and 3 of his best pinstripped friends) just carried an injured Wade and Bosh to a ring.

[ElNono]

None of their teams had whack ass teammates like det pic in the OP.

Oh please. Lebron had Sideshow Bob, Mo Williams and the carboard cut of Booby ing Gibson.

- good one. But like Pau before him (ringless), how can it be said that Dwight will have to carry the Lakers?

What do you mean? Shaq was ringless before he took LA to a 3peat... Gasol was ringless also before he took LA to 3 consecutive finals.

Like I said, since Gasol developed vaginitis, it's been consecutive 2nd round exits. Dwight now will have to carry the load.

Notice there's one role player absent from this analysis.

Wait wait wait. LeBron made it through the NCAA level EC that year. What happened when he got to the big dance?

Come on. Lebron got there with a bunch of clowns, arguably much worse than what you posted on the OP, and got trounced by the better team.

But let's not pretend Kirby didn't get to the big dance with 4 (let me repeat that for added effect.... ***FOUR***) hall of famers and absolutely the bed too.

You guys will leave no stones unturned when trying to discredit Kobe.

Facts, tbh... 42-40 happened.

[LkrFan]

Oh please. Lebron had Sideshow Bob, Mo Williams and the carboard cut of Booby ing Gibson.

I seem to have struck a nerve with the infamous ElNono. Wannatalkabou ? (Just messing with you. Get on AIM dawg).

What do you mean? Shaq was ringless before he took LA to a 3peat... Gasol was ringless also before he took LA to 3 consecutive finals.

All three of those guys are better than all of the guys on that pic not named Kobe. Pop Quiz: do you even know who #3 was? Besides Bynum, who else is either victory cigars or out of the NBA altogether?

And at the Gasol comment. B.K. (before Kobe), he was nothing more than a stain to Spur Fans. Now he lead a then 3-time champion to 3 straight Finals? Comedy gold right derr.

Like I said, since Gasol developed vaginitis, it's been consecutive 2nd round exits. Dwight now will have to carry the load.

Sure, let's hold Gasol's vaginitis again Kobe? Kobe was clearly the best player on the Lakers and has been since 2003 tbh.

Notice there's one role player absent from this analysis.

1st Ballot HOF role player. Say that 3 times fast.

Come on. Lebron got there with a bunch of clowns, arguably much worse than what you posted on the OP, and got trounced by the better team.

Nope. You can't even that . LeBron had multiple lottery picks on his team since they were a perrenial cellar dweller. Then, like the Spurs with TD, they tanked to get him too. Better yet and still, I'll take those 3 over LO, Cook, and Smushcalade.

But let's not pretend Kirby didn't get to the big dance with 4 (let me repeat that for added effect.... ***FOUR***) hall of famers and absolutely the bed too.

And if Malone didn't get hurt, we would have rang. Slava Medvedenk was expected to check Big Ben and Sheed.

Facts, tbh... 42-40 happened.

So did The 20-game streak! How'd det turn out?

[100%duncan]

Fail troll thread by lakafan.

[baseline bum]

Nope. You can't even that . LeBron had multiple lottery picks on his team since they were a perrenial cellar dweller.

Kobe had four lottery pick teammates on his 34 win 2005 team. Then 5 on his 2006 team and 4 on his 2007 team. LeBron only had 3 on his 07 Finals team.

[ElNono]

I seem to have struck a nerve with the infamous ElNono. Wannatalkabou ? (Just messing with you. Get on AIM dawg).

What's even funnier about Booby Gibson, is that I think he was a rook that year they made the Finals. The amount of hype that re got on the ECF was only probably comparable to Linsanity.... Boobsanity, I guess.

All three of those guys are better than all of the guys on that pic not named Kobe. Pop Quiz: do you even know who #3 was? Besides Bynum, who else is either victory cigars or out of the NBA altogether?

That #3 is Shammond Williams... you're a youngster thus I excuse you for not knowing your vets... but he's actually a cousin of KG... Dude played for 7 different NBA teams throughout his career.

There's solid players there. Sasha stayed and won a couple more ships with your team, icing games with his freebie shooting. Same with Farmar, Odom and Bynum. Turiaf ended up moving on and won a ship with Miami this season. Aaron Mckie is about to debut his first cooking show on the Food Network.

Look at Cleveland. It's desolate out there. The only guy that you actually hear about from those Lebron year is borderline-All-Star Mo Williams since he went to that stacked Clippers team.

And at the Gasol comment. B.K. (before Kobe), he was nothing more than a stain to Spur Fans. Now he lead a then 3-time champion to 3 straight Finals? Comedy gold right derr.

Gasol actually took that Memphis team to the playoffs... it was det year that the Kobe-led Lakers didn't make it... hmmmm....

Sure, let's hold Gasol's vaginitis again Kobe? Kobe was clearly the best player on the Lakers and has been since 2003 tbh.

I'm not holding anything against Kobe (well, the snitching I am), but these are just the facts. When Pau was beasting, Lakeshow was winning. When Pau got his heart broken , that was the end of that.

1st Ballot HOF role player. Say that 3 times fast.

Well, Scottie Pippen was a 1st Ballot HOF role player... there's precedent. Looking good for Kobe.

Nope. You can't even that . LeBron had multiple lottery picks on his team since they were a perrenial cellar dweller. Then, like the Spurs with TD, they tanked to get him too. Better yet and still, I'll take those 3 over LO, Cook, and Smushcalade.

What did those lottery picks produce? Danny Green? Lebron wanted to win now, and Danny Ferry went out and traded all that for Floppy Varejao, Mo Williams, Big Z, Shaq when he was done... all ing scrubs.

And if Malone didn't get hurt, we would have rang. Slava Medvedenk was expected to check Big Ben and Sheed.

How could you pin it on Malone, when you had a player (let's call him PLAYER ShAq), who was shooting 60%+ from the field, watching another player (let's call him PLAYER KoBe) chuck his sub 30% shooting into a defeat all because he went chasing for the Finals MVP? Malone would've been another spectator.

So did The 20-game streak! How'd det turn out?

Pretty good. We overachieved and made it to the WCF... beats losing in the 2nd round

[LkrFan]

What's even funnier about Booby Gibson, is that I think he was a rook that year they made the Finals. The amount of hype that re got on the ECF was only probably comparable to Linsanity.... Boobsanity, I guess.

Agreed.

That #3 is Shammond Williams... you're a youngster thus I excuse you for not knowing your vets... but he's actually a cousin of KG... Dude played for 7 different NBA teams throughout his career.

I know who he was. My point is he was one of many scrubs Kobe had to play with.

There's solid players there. Sasha stayed and won a couple more ships with your team, icing games with his freebie shooting. Same with Farmar, Odom and Bynum. Turiaf ended up moving on and won a ship with Miami this season. Aaron Mckie is about to debut his first cooking show on the Food Network.

You tripping dawg. LO was an OK player. Turiaf is so so. Sasha had one flukey contract year in 2008. The rest are laughable at best.

Look at Cleveland. It's desolate out there. The only guy that you actually hear about from those Lebron year is borderline-All-Star Mo Williams since he went to that stacked Clippers team.

Mo was an all star IIRC in Cleveland. Every player on the pic in my OP never even sniffed the ASG.

Gasol actually took that Memphis team to the playoffs... it was det year that the Kobe-led Lakers didn't make it... hmmmm....

If you are talking about 2005, that was the year we tanked for Bynum. It worked. If they were not going after a "HS kid that they didn't want to see in another uniform in a few years" they would have made the playoffs.

I'm not holding anything against Kobe (well, the snitching I am), but these are just the facts. When Pau was beasting, Lakeshow was winning. When Pau got his heart broken , that was the end of that.

Pau complemented Kobe's game. Really well. Kobe did his thang. You right, when Pau started getting his pushed in, the Lakers fell off. No outbursts of 40+ points from Kobe was going to stop the Lakers from going down.

Well, Scottie Pippen was a 1st Ballot HOF role player... there's precedent. Looking good for Kobe.

1st Ballot HOF role player. I don't get that. What about the Bulls winning 57 games while Mike was striking out on a minor league baseball team? What about Kobe winning two rangs without Shaq? Keep moving det goal post son. There is no such thing as a 1st Ballot HOF role player.

What did those lottery picks produce? Danny Green? Lebron wanted to win now, and Danny Ferry went out and traded all that for Floppy Varejao, Mo Williams, Big Z, Shaq when he was done... all ing scrubs.

Hey, it's not my fault they had a ty GM.

How could you pin it on Malone, when you had a player (let's call him PLAYER ShAq), who was shooting 60%+ from the field, watching another player (let's call him PLAYER KoBe) chuck his sub 30% shooting into a defeat all because he went chasing for the Finals MVP? Malone would've been another spectator.

The indefensable goods. Props.

Pretty good. We overachieved and made it to the WCF... beats losing in the 2nd round

Nah, don't even try that . You guys were the number 1 seed for a good part of the season. 20 game winning streak that carried over into the playoffs had everybody upstairs popping bottles and all. Then KD happened. Y'all didn't overachieve. Whether you lose in the WCF or 2nd round still means that you lost. Dems be the facts.

[racm]

Son, Pippen won 55 games as the alpha on the Bulls, while Jordan always got knocked out of the first round by the Celtics before Krause traded for Pippen.

[LkrFan]

Kobe had four lottery pick teammates on his 34 win 2005 team. Then 5 on his 2006 team and 4 on his 2007 team. LeBron only had 3 on his 07 Finals team.

They tanked to get Bynum.

[LkrFan]

Son, Pippen won 55 games as the alpha on the Bulls, while Jordan always got knocked out of the first round by the Celtics before Krause traded for Pippen.

Pip is underrated around these parts tbh.

[whitemamba]

They tanked to get Bynum.

thats a really believable statement, mitch knows best

[whitemamba]

Pip is underrated around these parts tbh.

jordan just wasnt in his prime