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    Can Spurs send Bonner back to TOR?

    People there like him.

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    This would be a good trade for SA imo. Patterson has good size with a good mid-range jumper, and although he's just an average defender/rebounder, he can't be worse than Blair.

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    Another reason why they might take a 2 for 1 with Neal and Blair: IIRC Blair is un-guaranteed.
    I think Neal is, too.

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    Interesting sidelight on the ESPN trade machine. Hollinger analysis shows Houston and Toronto pick up 4 wins while SA loses 6 wins.

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    Interesting trade idea. I like it less when Bonner isn't rumored on leaving.

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    Patterson reminds me of an Antonio McDyess type player. I want somebody taller than Patterson tbh.

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    Guys a legit 6'9 or 6'10" is plenty tall enough at power forward, especially if he is mobile. A 6'7" guy rounded up to 6'8" isn't big enough to play center especially if he's doing it questionable knees, with more weight than really makes sense for him. Usually 2 inches in height is 3 or 4 inches in standing reach, and with good knees and a lighter frame there is the possibility of jumping as well. Blair really is a decent back-up big the problem is he shouldn't be a starter and it would truly behoove him to develop a short and mid-range jumpshot.

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    Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer

    The #Spurs have announced they have waived forward Derrick Byars. Just shedding some salary or possibly looking to bring in someone?

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    hmmm, many here (including myself) thought he might be part of that Patterson trade.

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    It is interesting that they're just randomly choosing to waive him right now. Maybe they're planning on signing someone for the min. Andray Blatche? Fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath.

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    The, by far, most likely explanation of Byars being waived is that he found a team overseas.
    Spurs should have told him that he had no shot at making the team and that they would release him if he wanted to sign with another team.

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    lol didnt even know byars was still on the roster

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    Wish it meant something was happening but probably just a money saving move.

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    It means there's enough room to sign someone to a vet min contract without going over the luxury tax limit.

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    Interesting that no-one has focussed on Brockman - I'd swap him for Bonner in a heartbeat, although the salaries don't match. However, it would be easy enough to work a deal given all of the small salaries on both teams.

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    Well, Brockman sucks.

    I'd swap Bonner for a rock if it meant getting him off the team, but that doesn't mean it will actually help the team.

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    Well, Brockman sucks.

    I'd swap Bonner for a rock if it meant getting him off the team, but that doesn't mean it will actually help the team.
    Actually, Brockman doesn't suck. Two years ago he played very well for the Pacers. He can rebound and hit the 3, and he can be pretty good defensively. I think he'd be a perfect fit for the Spurs as a Bonner replacement.

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    He never played for the Pacers, and has never hit a three in his NBA career (or in college for that matter).

    Are you thinking of someone else?

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    I do believe the Byars move is because someone is coming to fill that spot on our roster. Unless they were just being nice. Otherwise, why not keep him around?

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    I do believe the Byars move is because someone is coming to fill that spot on our roster. Unless they were just being nice. Otherwise, why not keep him around?
    He's not a very good player, and wouldn't get much playing time.

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    He never played for the Pacers, and has never hit a three in his NBA career (or in college for that matter).

    Are you thinking of someone else?
    He's gotta be thinking of that guy from Duke on the Lakers. Josh McRoberts. He would actually be of some service to us, and he's athletic.

    Brockman's awful. He's a homeless man's DeJuan Blair.

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    He never played for the Pacers, and has never hit a three in his NBA career (or in college for that matter).

    Are you thinking of someone else?
    My bad. Yeah, I was thinking of McRoberts. I like McRoberts a lot, was hoping we'd grab him last offseason when he was an FA, but he went to Fakerland instead.

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    Interesting sidelight on the ESPN trade machine. Hollinger analysis shows Houston and Toronto pick up 4 wins while SA loses 6 wins.

    if you look on every trade you try for SA, the wins always go down when Neal and Blair are involved. I even tried to to get a top player for Blair and Neal and it still gave me losing wins for SA. the trade machine on ESPN is geared to screw the Spurs. When DeRosan/Davis for Bonner/Blair/Neal is put on the TM it says Spurs -4 Raptors +1. Figure that out DeRosan averages almost 17 points and Davis gets 7 boards and they are worse than those 3?

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    The trade machine win/loss analysis is based on PER I believe. With the Spurs having such great chemistry last year, Blair and Neal's PER is high, which is gonna affect the record prediction. Not sure if I'm accurate but I just wanted to say the trade machine's win/loss analysis isn't really reliable.

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    If the Spurs were to somehow acquire Patterson in the rumored 3-team trade, I'd love for them to package Blair/Bonner/Neal to make it happen. Assuming there is enough available cap space left over, I'd hope they would then around and sign Blatche to a vet minimum deal.

    Over the past several years,the Spurs FO has been very proactive and focused on swapping in and out perimeter players over the past several years. Meanwhile, the frontline has been saddled with undersized, unathletic and underskilled guys. Adding Patterson and Blatche, in one offseason, would inject a massive talent upgrade to the frontline (PF/C) and finally surround Duncan with the much-needed support that he has been missing.

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    Jerry Tipton ‏@JerryTipton

    Rockets said Patrick Patterson will not play in charity game, Terrence Jones doubtful. Minor off-season surgeries a factor, team said.

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    I saw this tweet about Patterson and at first glance I thought maybe he wasn't playing because he could still be part of a deal. Plus I thought off season surgery was referring to Jones and not both. Well after some research, turns out Patterson has had surgery on his ankle the past two seasons:

    Patterson, 23, finally had his long-planned ankle surgery before last season, but his rehabilitation cost him all of training camp, forcing him to spend much of the lockout-condensed season catching up. When the season ended, he had another surgery, this time to remove scar tissue from the previous procedure.
    http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocket...ookie-promise/

    So maybe that worried the Spurs and decided against the rumored deal.

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