Legitimate rape

[ElNono]

Because it's an innocent child.

And she's an innocent mother...

[Yonivore]

And she's an innocent mother...

I'm not suggesting she be killed.

[ElNono]

What is the moral difference? Are you saying you are for hospitals denying life saving care?

No, I'm saying hospitals don't have a choice. Woman's do.

[jack sommerset]

I'm just using ElNono's examples and applying logic to them.

Elnono, at the end of the day, does not believe a fetus has rights. It's the mother choice up until like 5, 6 months. Something like that. God bless

[Yonivore]

I see.






But it's ridiculous to suggest there's any truth to the "war on women" accusations...

That's more like a war on unborn children with 1.21 million casualties a year.

[ElNono]

I'm not suggesting she be killed.

But you're demanding she carries on with something she doesn't want to do.

[Wild Cobra]

And she's an innocent mother...

That excuses murder?

[ElNono]

Elnono, at the end of the day, does not believe a fetus has rights. It's the mother choice up until like 5, 6 months. Something like that. God bless

I actually don't think an unborn has rights (as in legal rights) until he/she is born. But it's unrelated to abortion unless you're going for the 'right to life' angle.

I already stated I only support abortion only in cases of rape or incest. But I also think women know better, since they carry the pregnancies. So I'm ok with them making the decision.

[ElNono]

That excuses murder?

That means she gets to choose if she will host that parasite or not.

[Yonivore]

But you're demanding she carries on with something she doesn't want to do.

So, you advocate she be able to murder the child after it's born, if she doesn't want to "carry on with" it?

Is it okay simply because she can't see it?

[CuckingFunt]

The problem is that 'life support' in this case isn't a machine. It's another person. If the person doesn't want to provide such life support, why should it?

What if the hospital doesn't want to provide your life support because you cant pay?

Another ed up analogy.

[Yonivore]

That means she gets to choose if she will host that parasite or not.

It's a child.

[Wild Cobra]

I actually don't think an unborn has rights (as in legal rights) until he/she is born. But it's unrelated to abortion unless you're angling for the 'right to life' angle.

I already stated I only support abortion only in cases of rape or incest. But I also think women know better, since they carry the pregnancies. So I'm ok with them making the decision.

Fine.

Seek medical attention the same day or next day. Once the fetus starts to grow, I say no abortion. Especially after about 10 weeks.

[ElNono]

So, you advocate she be able to murder the child after it's born, if she doesn't want to "carry on with" it?

No such thing. When the child is born, it becomes autonomous and legally protected, and if the mother wants to abandon him or give it up for adoption, she's free to do so.

Is it okay simply because she can't see it?

No, it's ok because it's her body keeping that fetus alive during that time.

[jack sommerset]

I may very well be a hypocrite on this subject cuz I do support abortion under some cir stances, like rape for instance. This is a really a tough topic when you consider religion, human rights, science, morals, social, etc. i try not to judge people when it comes to abortions but I find myself doing more than I would like to. God bless

[ElNono]

It's a child.

Disagree. As I said, would you be ok if this 'child' is removed unharmed from the mother that doesn't want him? Why is it ok for the mother to abandon him after birth but not before birth?

[CuckingFunt]

That's more like a war on unborn children with 1.21 million casualties a year.

A war waged by inherently uncaring women, right?

[Wild Cobra]

Another ed up analogy.

About as ed up as the idea of removing the fetus unharmed.

[Spurminator]

Fine.

Seek medical attention the same day or next day. Once the fetus starts to grow, I say no abortion. Especially after about 10 weeks.

So you would mandate that women, within 24 hours of being raped, should make it a point to seek medication to terminate a *possible* pregnancy, or else they have to complete the pregnancy or face criminal punishment.

LOL libertarian

[Yonivore]

No such thing. When the child is born, it becomes autonomous and legally protected, and if the mother wants to abandon him or give it up for adoption, she's free to do so.

And, it's a legally protected child when it's killed in utero, as well; except, of course, when it's the mother that decides to kill it.

No, it's ok because it's her body keeping that fetus alive during that time.

And, if the baby is killed as a result of anyone's actions, except for the mother exercising the choice to abort, it's murder.

[Yonivore]

A war waged by inherently uncaring women, right?

A vast majority of them don't bat an eye.

[Spurminator]

And, it's a legally protected child when it's killed in utero, as well; except, of course, when it's the mother that decides to kill it.

And, if the baby is killed as a result of anyone's actions, except for the mother exercising the choice to abort, it's murder.

You're catching on! We have a breakthrough!

All of this is true because the baby is living inside of the mother, and not any of those other people.

[CuckingFunt]

About as ed up as the idea of removing the fetus unharmed.

Firstly, by " ed up," I meant that the analogy didn't even remotely conform to any sense of logic.

Secondly, the idea of removing the fetus unharmed was not presented as an analogy.

[Spurminator]

A vast majority of them don't bat an eye.

Where'd you read that?

[Yonivore]

You're catching on! We have a breakthrough!

All of this is true because the baby is living inside of the mother, and not any of those other people.

It's either a human life, deserving legal protections, or it isn't; make up your mind.