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Abortion has it's limitations, risks, and side-effects too. Many of them just as crippling and lethal.
Prenatal care and placing your child for adoption is free.
Then the stupid shouldn't have been so careless taking a chance of getting pregnant.
We all agree rape is different, but having sex and not considering the possibilities is no excuse.
Abortion has it's limitations, risks, and side-effects too. Many of them just as crippling and lethal.
Prenatal care and placing your child for adoption is free.
But you would take the fetus off life support and at as if that isn't a certain death.
The result would still be the same. You'd force a woman to take steps to prevent a pregnancy past 24 hours of their rape, or complete the pregnancy because they can't get a legal abortion.
That's a cop-out. Why should an unborn child's rights be different in Oregon than they are in Kansas?Still, it should be a states rights issue, without the federals telling everyone how to do it. My idea wouldn't be right for all 50 states, and I wouldn't expect it to be.
How about responsible, non-stupid es that do use birth-control but fails?
Do only those with money are allowed to have sex now?
There are even families that will take care of a mother well while she is pregnant with their child to be.
At least WC is upfront about his position. He doesn't hide behind faux compassion for unborn children. It's really about giving wanton s their comeuppance.
The "life support" is another person and "the stupid " has rights too.
pretty much
That sounds like a nice pamphlet you can make and mail to pregnant women.
Because stupid es are the only ones who have sex.
Actually, while they're having their mandated sonogram...
Like I said, the details need worked out. I believe medically, that the 24hrs is actually about a 72hr window.
I would like to see a ban on abortion in all 50 states. However, I believe in the cons ution. Don't you? Can you say 10th amendment?
Roe vs. Wade took states rights away in the case of abortion.
It did no such thing. What do you know about Roe vs Wade anyways?
Oh, well, then, of course. Pregnancy is a walk in the park.
As you both would know.
Well make sure you talk to some raped women while you're working all that out. Make sure you ask how long after a rape until they're ready to consider the possibility that there might be something living inside of them, and when they'd be ready to take every precaution to prevent that thing from growing much.
Still a cop out. If you were really adamant about the unborn child's right to life this would supersede any discussion of state vs. federal jurisdiction.I would like to see a ban on abortion in all 50 states. However, I believe in the cons ution. Don't you? Can you say 10th amendment?
Roe vs. Wade took states rights away in the case of abortion.
As a matter of fact, the SCOTUS recognized the state had a compelling interest...
No but, that it isn't, doesn't justify murdering a child.
Yes, but they make any abortion ban illegal.
It's clear that the first thought these stupid es should have after they get raped is to remember to call their doctors and make an appointment...
I wonder if Wild Cobra knows that a morning after pill is already pretty standard to the meds administered to a woman after rape (unless refused), along with various STI vaccines and a round of anti-HIV meds.
I also wonder if Wild Cobra knows how many women deny the fact they were raped, even to themselves, until long after it happened. Because of, you know, all that judgment and shame and emotional trauma, and stuff.
They didn't. They had to balance two rights, the woman's right to privacy and the states rights to regulate healthcare. And so they struck a balance: in the first 24 weeks or so, when abortion is actually less risky than childbirth, the women gets to choose. After that, the state is allowed to regulate.
As stated already a few weeks back, the whole conundrum here is with the mother. The cons ution provides no rights to the unborn.
Now you might disagree that the mother should have any rights, or that government should trump individual rights, but then that wouldn't be anything new with you.
On the first account, yes I am aware. On the second account, I think there would be some truth to that, but far less if the laws were changed.
Poor decisions should not result in the murder of innocent life. Period.
Certain things shouldn't even be up for discussion. This being one of them. You should always be legally allowed to get an abortion if you were raped. You could legally classify being forced to carry a rape pregnancy by law as both mental and physical torture. Every single day you're reminded about the day you were raped, and every day you look at your kid you're reminded of it. Of course, dumping your kid off at the local "Abandon and Go" orphanage/foster care agency is always the preferred option for insensitive bible thumpers who never had to live through that situation, not only destroying one life but statistically tarnishing the unwanted kid's life straight from birth.
Statistically, abandoned kids are much more likely than normally raised kids to: use drugs, go to prison, sell their bodies, kill themselves, develop mental and physical conditions, be homeless both either before or after being 18, be abused by their "parents" or caretakers, not go to college or even get a high school diploma, etc.
I don't see these egg and sperm saving bible thumpers talking about that . Half of those same nitwits probably want it to be illegal to jerk off too. I mean, you're wasting that valuble God sperm! Those are living things too. Of course, it isn't illegal to hit an animal with your car, or go hunting and killing animals for sport. Since apparently not all life actually has meaning.
Luckily, not every state is full of misogynistic clowns that don't give a about women's rights. So if people want abortions, they can just go to another state that allows it and do it therem completely bypassing the ed up laws that the more right-wing states still have an iron grip on.
Then why have you spent so much of this thread suggesting that women should be legally obligated to medicate themselves after being raped?
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
In the context of the comment to which your responding, your panicked, talking point death rattle appears to suggest that getting raped is a poor decision.
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