Legitimate rape

[Yonivore]

Are you going to invent this infallible 'effective contraception'?

That's not my problem, I don't have sex with people with whom I don't want children and, when I was done having children with my spouse, I made sure there wouldn't be any more.

Why are you making excuses for promiscuity? Or, are you suggesting the vast majority of those abortions were performed on women that used contraception that simply failed.

What are the fail rates on the various types of contraception and let's apply that number to the 1.21 million abortions every year.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not in any pain at all. I'm just trying to understand your pain.

Its not so much understanding his pain it's accepting it. I believe this is the place he lets out his anger. That's a good thing. It beats yelling at his mom. I go play golf. Taking my frustration out on a golf ball is therapeutic for me as lashing out, trolling the st board is therapeutic for chump.

Chump is very close to a historical mark on Spurstalk. I'm proud of him. God bless

Your whining is as rewarding as it is predictable.

Ron bless.

[Yonivore]

It's funny that those who want to ban abortion also support the death penalty generally speaking.

It's funny how those that favor abortion want to make an innocent child out to be a capital criminal deserving to die.

[CosmicCowboy]

That's not my problem, I don't have sex with people with whom I don't want children and, when I was done having children with my spouse, I made sure there wouldn't be any more.

Why are you making excuses for promiscuity? Or, are you suggesting the vast majority of those abortions were performed on women that used contraception that simply failed.

What are the fail rates on the various types of contraception and let's apply that number to the 1.21 million abortions every year.

considering a failure rate of 1%+ and a population of 330 million+ I suspect quite a few were from contraception failure.

[djohn2oo8]

It's funny how those that favor abortion want to make an innocent child out to be a capital criminal deserving to die.

So predictable. I'm not making it out to be anything. Just that you're not really pro life once the baby is born.

[ElNono]

That's not my problem

When you start demanding other people to conduct their sex lives up to *your* standards it becomes your problem.

[boutons_deux]

I don't favor abortion, hate it, but what do YOU propose to do about 1.2M/year in USA?

And it is YOUR problem, since YOU want to criminalize it.

[ElNono]

considering a failure rate of 1%+ and a population of 330 million+ I suspect quite a few were from contraception failure.

ding ding ding...

[CosmicCowboy]

It's funny how those that favor abortion want to make an innocent child out to be a capital criminal deserving to die.

Yonni...please! you are being embarrassingly dumb on your wild attacks.

[Yonivore]

ding ding ding...

What percentage then sought an abortion?

With an estimated 1.21 million abortions per year and 3.3 million pregnancies occurring due to failed contraception, that means (using your numbers) more than half do not have an abortion. And that's assuming 100% of the non-rape, non-incest abortions resulted from failed contraception.

Seems to me the a clear majority of women choose not to abort, even in cases of failed contraception.

Clearly, there's an alternative to murdering babies.

[Drachen]

It's funny how those that favor abortion want to make an innocent child out to be a capital criminal deserving to die.

I would posit that there are not many here that favor abortion.

[mrsmaalox]

Are you going to invent this infallible 'effective contraception'?

Well he sure as ain't going to pay for any of it!!

[Yonivore]

I would posit that there are not many here that favor abortion.

I would posit there are even fewer that can actually distinguish between an innocent child and a guilty capital criminal.

[Yonivore]

Well he sure as ain't going to pay for any of it!!

Why should I?

[djohn2oo8]

I would posit there are even fewer that can actually distinguish between an innocent child and a guilty capital criminal.

Life is still being taken. You cant say one thing is murder and not the other which purposefully ends life.

[Yonivore]

Life is still being taken. You cant say one thing is murder and not the other which purposefully ends life.

I will say they're both homicide. One justifiable, one not.

[ElNono]

What percentage then sought an abortion?

What does that has to do with contraception effectiveness?

With an estimated 1.21 million abortions per year and 3.3 million pregnancies occurring due to failed contraception, that means (using your numbers) more than half do not have an abortion.

Where did you get that 3.3 million number from? CC said the failure rate is 1%+ and we have a 330+ million population. Woman make up for roughly half of that (50.8% according to the last census)... From that you also have to remove the very young and the elderly.

Seems to me the a clear majority of women choose not to abort, even in cases of failed contraception.

Seems to me your math is kinda fuzzy.

[djohn2oo8]

I will say they're both homicide. One justifiable, one not.

Moving the goalposts.
not really pro life

[boutons_deux]

32k/year of rape victims get pregnant.

Yoni has no problem with USA murdering and causing the 100Ks deaths of foreigners and US military to grab, eg, Iraqi oil on false pretenses.

[Drachen]

I would posit there are even fewer that can actually distinguish between an innocent child and a guilty capital criminal.

and even fewer still who can distinguish between an zygote/embryo/fetus and a child.

[Blake]

I will say they're both homicide. One justifiable, one not.

Next time you jack off, make sure you turn yourself in.

Capital murder, imo.

[LnGrrrR]

There's an element of nonchalance with anything that occurs 1.21 million times a year. There's a member of my extended family that just had her sixth.

An element is now a majority?

I can't imagine that with 1.21 a year, there aren't more like her than there are of women who actually give it much thought. Otherwise, like I said, there'd be less of it and anti-abortion women would be more visible.

I'm sure there are more. But it would take 600K women to not bat an eye for it to be a majority. Do you think that many women don't care?

Also, if I might ask, at what portion of the pregnancy did she get an abortion?

[djohn2oo8]

Next time you jack off, make sure you turn yourself in.

Capital murder, imo.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So deciding to have a kid is a "business decision" rather than one of love and the species' need to regenerate? The Business of America is Business.

"species' need to regenerate". That's possibly dumber than anything Wild Cobra has ever said in this forum.

the world's population recently reached 7 billion and it goes up everyday. Pretending humans need government subsidies to reproduce enough in order to avoid extinction is 100000000x more re ed than any mythical problem conservatives cook up to promote their agenda (voter fraud, etc.).

And yeah, if you wanna demonize the word business by calling a huge financial commitment a "business decision" then do it if you think that changes something. The fact you think the government should worry about someone's financial obligation that comes with having a kid is everything that is wrong with the Democratic party.

[Spurminator]

Or, practice effective contraception, subject themselves to sterilization, etc...

I have no illusions about the carnal nature of humans.

...until the discussion turns to abstinence only education, I'm guessing.

That's the part of the conservative platform that confuses me the most. If 1.21MM dead unborn infants was so unacceptable to you, I would think you'd want to fight the problem from every angle possible. But the potential for kids having more sex if they're taught how to use protection apparently is a greater threat than the loss of unborn children.