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    All the atheists I know have jobs, their own homes AND wear pants.
    I am one and I confirm I have a job, a home, I wear pants and underwear

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    Perhaps because they rely on internal motivation rather than external

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    Perhaps because they rely on internal motivation rather than external
    I can dig that (especially true for Christians), but where does the internal motivation for atheists come from?

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    I can dig that (especially true for Christians), but where does the internal motivation for atheists come from?
    hum what?

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    I can dig that (especially true for Christians), but where does the internal motivation for atheists come from?
    The individual, thus: internal.

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    The individual, thus: internal.
    sorry still don't get the question

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    What's wrong with Bill Maher? He runs an entertaining show. I'd be a lot more disappointed if he was following Bill O'Reilly or some other like Rush Limbaugh.

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    Maher's halloween costume of steve irwin(crocodile hunter) less than 2 months from when he died.


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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that costume.

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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that costume.
    Except for the fact that it's completely lacking in unfunniness. That would be my only critique. (read: it's pretty ing funny costume)

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    Atheist here.

    I have a job, and a house. Not wearing pants right now. Will be soon.

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    Hala Atheists!

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    Why is this news?

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    I'm a conservative and I watch Bill. He's funny as even if he is a pandering naive Hollywood type.

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    Maher's halloween costume of steve irwin(crocodile hunter) less than 2 months from when he died.


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    Give me a break, Irwin was the biggest on the planet and exploited animals for profit. There are so many dip s like him that people quickly filled the "need to see people with deadly animals" demand.

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    my best friend voted for Obama.

    I could care less. Nice try.

    This and Pop's donation to Obama might just be enough to make TPark quit on the Spurs one more time.

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    Maher's halloween costume of steve irwin(crocodile hunter) less than 2 months from when he died.

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    I was including him in the category tbh.

    Of course, your reply begs the question, when's the cutoff for jokes about a dead person no longer being insensitive? 3 months? 6? 12? multiple years? I'm curious what your personal statute of limitations is on the subject, since two months is too soon for a comedian to joke about someone after they've died.

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    Manu isn't American, so he, like a lot of non-Americans, isn't duped and hypnotized by the America-The-Beautiful, self-congratulating, God-Prefers-America myths that Americans believe.
    Yep we have the Americans who do that and the ones who bite the culture here and so on from music etc. and claim they hate it! You have Americans and the haters on it all the time! It goes both ways.

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    I was including him in the category tbh.

    Of course, your reply begs the question, when's the cutoff for jokes about a dead person no longer being insensitive? 3 months? 6? 12? multiple years? I'm curious what your personal statute of limitations is on the subject, since two months is too soon for a comedian to joke about someone after they've died.
    No it doesn't. Begging the question is circular reasoning. Perhaps it brings into question.

    /pedant

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    Give me a break, Irwin was the biggest on the planet and exploited animals for profit. There are so many dip s like him that people quickly filled the "need to see people with deadly animals" demand.
    And wearing a costume two months after his death when he has a 7 year old daughter, a 3 year old son and a grieving wife is cool?

    Can you explain how he exploited animals for profit?

    Did he not bring awareness and funding for wildlife conservation?

    Maybe scientist who discovered cures for deadly diseases should not have f*** with deadly bacteria or viruses?

    Sure he made some money off of his job, in which he delt with animals, but that is like saying all doctors exploit sick people.

    Your comment is utterly assinine.

    I have no deep rooted political affiliation whatsoever, but all Maher did by wearing that costume was immoratlize himself as a " " to millions on the internet in an effort to "exploit" the public who like completely distasteful humor. You are one of those he exploited, and as he did, you immortalized yourself on the internet in similar fashion. Grats

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    Manu isn't American, so he, like a lot of non-Americans, isn't duped and hypnotized by the America-The-Beautiful, self-congratulating, God-Prefers-America myths that Americans believe.
    Just an FYI, Manu Ginobili is American, he was born in Biaha Blanca, Argentina. This makes him very clearly South American. He does have Italian citizenship, as well as Argentinian, but it doesn't change is birth landmass. Why does everyone think that the US gets to claim the term American solely when so many other people and nationalities are also Americans.

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    The individual, thus: internal.
    I should have rephrased my question – generally, what is the motivation for the atheist?

    Is your life guided by a desire to do good things? Where does morality come from?

    Is your life guided by self preservation? If so, what are your thoughts about the large amount of humans killed each year through abortions (excluding the small percentage of abortions for rape, incest, birth defects and harm to the mother) – they don’t even get the chance you did.

    Is your life guided by love (family, friends, etc.)? Where does love come from?

    Is your life guided by freedom – the opportunity to seize the day or do whatever you want? You can’t control your heartbeat, disease or cancer – how does that affect your motivation?

    Look, I’m not criticizing your beliefs – I truly am interested in how an atheist views life in general and I understand the answers are meant to be generalizations and each cir stance could be different.

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    By the way, I met Maher over 15 years ago while I was bartending on 6th street. He came in by himself and just stood in a corner. I offered him a drink on the house, but he wouldn’t take it – just stood there quiet and by himself. I was shocked by how short he was (can’t remember what show I knew him from but he didn’t seem that short on TV) – maybe just over 5 ft.

    I think Maher and Limbaugh are more alike than most will admit – they just come from two different angles, but their playbook is the same – say something that will catch the attention of the opposition and let it linger around for a while. I’d be shocked if their true motivation wasn’t ratings results instead of a belief or cause.

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    By the way, I met Maher over 15 years ago while I was bartending on 6th street. He came in by himself and just stood in a corner. I offered him a drink on the house, but he wouldn’t take it – just stood there quiet and by himself. I was shocked by how short he was (can’t remember what show I knew him from but he didn’t seem that short on TV) – maybe just over 5 ft.

    I think Maher and Limbaugh are more alike than most will admit – they just come from two different angles, but their playbook is the same – say something that will catch the attention of the opposition and let it linger around for a while. I’d be shocked if their true motivation wasn’t ratings results instead of a belief or cause.
    It's this kind of stuff that just boggles my mind. It's depressing the extent to which drawing false equivalencies has replaced reasoned thought in this country. Maher is a joke writer, has been for ~30 years, while Limbaugh creates twisted little assertions out of three cons uent parts: bull , hate, and hubris. The difference in complexity between these two activities is vast, comparable to the difference between somebody building compounds using a chemistry set, and building lumpy little ashtrays out of modeling clay.

    To quote the great Mark Jackson, "You're better than that!"

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    It's this kind of stuff that just boggles my mind. It's depressing the extent to which drawing false equivalencies has replaced reasoned thought in this country. Maher is a joke writer, has been for ~30 years, while Limbaugh creates twisted little assertions out of three cons uent parts: bull , hate, and hubris. The difference in complexity between these two activities is vast, comparable to the difference between somebody building compounds using a chemistry set, and building lumpy little ashtrays out of modeling clay.

    To quote the great Mark Jackson, "You're better than that!"
    Sorry, but Maher is a more of a talk show host than a comedian whether you like that or not. It’s called Real Time with Bill Maher not Funny Time with Bill Maher.

    Your hate for Limbaugh doesn’t change the relevance of the comparison and the tactics you described can be attributed to Maher as well.

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    Atheist here. Being an atheist isn't really a big deal. It doesn't really require a lot of justification or explanation. Think of it like this: A Christian, for example, probably doesn't spend a whole lot of time, if any, thinking up justifications or arguments for why he's an atheist about Roman gods, or Hindu gods, etc. The issue is probably closed to him; he's come to a conclusion, and that's that. It's the same with an atheist, you'd just add the Christian god to that list.

    So all those questions you ask don't really fall into the scope of what is determined by a person's atheistic view of life. And atheist would be very likely to agree that all that exists (that is of immediate relevance to our species), is this planet, and the life it contains.

    So if an atheist cares about doing good things, he'd find both motivation and an outlet for that intention in what exists: this planet, it's environment, it's inhabitants, and the cares and needs of other humans. That's also the grounds in which such a person would seek and give love. Self-preservation is a given, a fact of life. Motivation, in whatever form, comes from being alive; a concretized belief system is not required. In fact, speaking as an atheist, when you take seriously the task of unmaking formerly concrete beliefs (ie "I have believed that the Christian god exists for so long, and with so much faith, that his existence is now a part of what I take to be concrete reality," ), returning them to abstract beliefs, and then examining their value against other, competing notions (like for instance how would life look and feel if I were to have no concrete beliefs), you realize that all that is lost is those concrete beliefs (which was the intention in the first place), and, often times, everything else just "falls into place."


    I should have rephrased my question – generally, what is the motivation for the atheist?

    Is your life guided by a desire to do good things? Where does morality come from?

    Is your life guided by self preservation? If so, what are your thoughts about the large amount of humans killed each year through abortions (excluding the small percentage of abortions for rape, incest, birth defects and harm to the mother) – they don’t even get the chance you did.

    Is your life guided by love (family, friends, etc.)? Where does love come from?

    Is your life guided by freedom – the opportunity to seize the day or do whatever you want? You can’t control your heartbeat, disease or cancer – how does that affect your motivation?

    Look, I’m not criticizing your beliefs – I truly am interested in how an atheist views life in general and I understand the answers are meant to be generalizations and each cir stance could be different.

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