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    Colorado’s Attempted Voter Purge Finds Nearly 90 Percent Of ‘Suspected Non-Citizens’ Are Actually U.S. Citizens

    Although Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler (R) felt the need to question his state’s registered voters about their eligibility to vote, sending a letter earlier this month that asked about 4,000 Colorado residents to provide proof of citizenship, his office has confirmed that at least 88 percent of those voters are indeed U.S. citizens.

    After running the voter information for 1,400 individuals through a federal database, however, Gessler’s office verified that the vast majority of the individuals who received the letter did have their paperwork in order and are eligible to vote. There are roughly 168 people remaining to be verified in the database, but an employee in Colorado’s election division acknowledged even this group “may also include people who are citizens.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...s-us-citizens/

    Gessler is one "cagey" guy

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    Two Florida Republicans Want Law Allowing Gun Owners to Shoot 'Illegal' Voters

    two men who identified themselves as Robert Stevens and John Nelson had handed me a flyer. It explained that they wanted the state of Florida to pass a “Protect the Polls law” under which “anyone suspected of committing voter fraud can be fired upon – provided the weapon is registered and operated by its licensed owner.”

    Stevens claimed that “illegals and other people without government IDs” were committing voter fraud. I outlined a scenario, “I’m a gun owner. I go to the polls. I have my gun. So, how does it work? There’s this guy who looks like an illegal alien, and he looks pretty shifty ...”

    “And you shoot him,” Stevens said, cutting me off. After some more questioning, and deciding that I would need to see identification, Stevens added, “I think a gun owner should be able to ask for ID and help us police the poll, protect the polls.”

    http://www.alternet.org/election-201...illegal-voters

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    Two Florida Republicans Want Law Allowing Gun Owners to Shoot 'Illegal' Voters

    two men who identified themselves as Robert Stevens and John Nelson had handed me a flyer. It explained that they wanted the state of Florida to pass a “Protect the Polls law” under which “anyone suspected of committing voter fraud can be fired upon – provided the weapon is registered and operated by its licensed owner.”

    Stevens claimed that “illegals and other people without government IDs” were committing voter fraud. I outlined a scenario, “I’m a gun owner. I go to the polls. I have my gun. So, how does it work? There’s this guy who looks like an illegal alien, and he looks pretty shifty ...”

    “And you shoot him,” Stevens said, cutting me off. After some more questioning, and deciding that I would need to see identification, Stevens added, “I think a gun owner should be able to ask for ID and help us police the poll, protect the polls.”

    http://www.alternet.org/election-201...illegal-voters
    Not buying it. Seriously, who's going to believe that some writer for alternet "just happened" to run into Wild Cobra?

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    Not buying it. Seriously, who's going to believe that some writer for alternet "just happened" to run into Wild Cobra?
    Plus it says Republicans, not Libertarians... something is fishy there...

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    Is this the same 3-judge panel that killed the Texas maps?
    One judge, Judge Rosemary Collyer (a George W. Bush appointee to the District Court for the District of Columbia) was on both panels.

    The Voter ID panel also consisted of Judge David Tatel of the DC Circuit (a Clinton appointee) and Judge Robert Wilkins (an Obama appointee to the District Court for the District of Columbia).

    The Redistricting panel included Judge Thomas Griffith of the DC Circuit (a George W. Bush appointee) and Judge Beryl Howell (an Obama appointee to the District Court for the District of Columbia).

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    another case related to an alleged disparate impact, but unrelated to voter ID law, that could end up before the Supreme Court:

    http://electionlawblog.org/?p=39463

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    Can someone please walk me through as to why Public Law 89-110 can be used to say ID requirements are illegal?

    What the is wrong with these judges?

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    What the is wrong with these judges?
    they don't pander to you, so you conclude they must be doing a bad job.

    did you read the article? there are some hints there . . .

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    they don't pander to you, so you conclude they must be doing a bad job.

    did you read the article? there are some hints there . . .
    Money?

    OK then vote by mail is illegal because you have to spend money on a stamp.

    The law was designed to keep things like voting tests from keeping minorities from voting. ID is understandable to be a requirement.

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    OK, this is weird. Are they also going to overturn South Carolina's existing law? I just looked at a summary. people are already required to show ID. They can sign an affidavit to vote on a provisional ballot. What the new law does is increase the types of ID than can be used. The only added ID requirement is that anyone using a provisional ballot must later prove they are who they are with proper ID, before the certification.

    Voter Identification Requirements

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    a half assed try is at least a try, I guess.

    later, WC.

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    I remember the great stamp shortage of 76 when millions of Americans were left with no way of voting. Was a tradgedy.

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    I remember the great stamp shortage of 76 when millions of Americans were left with no way of voting. Was a tradgedy.
    Scott...

    Are you delusional...

    How many states had vote by mail back then?

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    Scott...

    Are you delusional...

    How many states had vote by mail back then?
    ?? All or almost all? My dad retired from the USAF in 1978, and ALWAYS voted by mail.

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    Really don't see scotus agreeing with this court... But who knows.

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    Looks like that same court was OK with Voter ID laws in other states... apparently, the issue isn't with Voter ID in general, but with how this specific law is constructed.
    Texas is a recidivist case so is handled differently. Texas has about the worst history of minority voter restriction of all states and yes that includes AL and MS.

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    And it's nice to see that once again in any discussion that may concern race, WC is firmly on the side that the minorities are not.

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    another case related to an alleged disparate impact, but unrelated to voter ID law, that could end up before the Supreme Court:

    http://electionlawblog.org/?p=39463
    That's huge considering that, along with Florida, Ohio is arguably the most important swing state this year.

    And how ironic would it be if the SCOTUS overturned a potentially critical swing-state voting decision that cites Bush v. Gore?

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    ?? All or almost all? My dad retired from the USAF in 1978, and ALWAYS voted by mail.
    There is a difference between allowing people to vote by mail in some cir stances, and having only vote by mail. My state went vote by mail in the 90's, but when I was in the military, I voted by mail before that time. I believe it's called absentee voting.

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    And it's nice to see that once again in any discussion that may concern race, WC is firmly on the side that the minorities are not.
    Nice to see you are still the forum jester.

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    There is a difference between allowing people to vote by mail in some cir stances, and having only vote by mail. My state went vote by mail in the 90's, but when I was in the military, I voted by mail before that time. I believe it's called absentee voting.
    Moving the goalposts again, I see.

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    I remember the great stamp shortage of 76 when millions of Americans were left with no way of voting. Was a tradgedy.
    Moving the goalposts again, I see.
    That's a pretty inaccurate interpretation. I was responding to a fictional stamp shortage scenario.

    Care to reevaluate your assessment?

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