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    There is something going on with the rates of Autism in this country.
    There is an epidemic of bogus diagnoses that outweighs any epidemic of actual epidemic. And once, eg, autism is "diagnosed", the care givers and BigPharma start raking in the $10Ks per kid, for years.

    This ing country has been brainwashed, hypnotized into believing, in true religious, unquestioning, don't-want-no-facts manner, that nearly everybody is diseased to some degree so everybody needs BigPharma pills, and that health only comes from BigPharma pills.

    eg, BigPharma now was everybody, starting with kids, to take statins for their entire life, the side effects be damned.

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    leemajors with the goods

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    I do think the flu shot is rather pointless and has a lot of mercury in it, or at least used to.

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    Also, pretty sure you need immunizations to attend school in TX, as well as daycare. You can get an affadavit for exemptions but you are potentially putting a lot of people at risk from Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and the like. Scary diseases with fairly effective prevention.
    Last edited by leemajors; 09-09-2012 at 10:27 AM.

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    Well, SA210 is a bad father.

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    I do think the flu shot is rather pointless and has a lot of mercury in it, or at least used to.
    About a decade ago, it was decided to place more rules on it. Very few vaccines now even carry the preservative that contains mercury, yet autism rates are not declining. It's most likely something else.

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    in the same area, BigPharma getting docs, who get a percentage, to give kids anti-psychotics.

    Why have Antipsychotic Prescriptions in Children Skyrocketed?

    Thanks to aggressive marketing techniques, pharmaceutical companies are raking in profits from atypical antipsychotic medications – drugs originally approved for mental illnesses that are as serious as they are rare.

    It's no surprise then that a major portion of the sales of these types of "hard-core" psychiatric drugs come from off-label uses. Drugs such as Seroquel, Zyprexa, Risperdal and Abilify are now increasingly prescribed by psychiatrists and primary-care doctors to treat conditions they were never intended or approved for, such as:

    Anxiety
    Attention-deficit disorder (ADD)
    Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)
    Behavioral problems, and
    Insomnia

    Drug makers are increasingly getting caught in the act of illegal marketing of this class of drugs:

    In July, GlaxoSmithKline was found guilty of the largest health fraud in US history, and was fined $3 billion after pleading guilty to three counts of criminal misdemeanor and other civil liabilities relating to a number of different drugs, including Paxil and Wellbutrin

    In June, Johnson & Johnson agreed to pay $2.2 billion for illegally marketing its drug Risperdal

    In 2009 Eli Lilly was fined $1.4 billion for the illegal marketing of its antipsychotic drug Zyprexa

    Bristol Myers Squibb was fined $515 million in 2007 to settle charges of illegal marketing of Abilify to child psychiatrists

    Pfizer paid $301 million for illegal marketing of its drug Geodon, and

    AstraZeneca has paid out $520 million to settle illegal marketing charges of Seroquel


    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...09_SNLNew_MC_1

    autism is just one of a range of alleged mental disorders in pre-adults that BigPharma and corrupt docs profit from.

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    It's his choice and his right not to, and I respect that. But vaccinations have nearly eradicated some truly terrible diseases, like polio. Overall they have a very positive impact.

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    Well, SA210 is a bad father.
    All you morons are very lost on this issue and you have no clue that you are lol.

    My daughter hasn't been sick in 10 years, she gets straight A's, plays violin, clarinet and as I'm writing this she is writing her first book (proud of her) lol. She's a damn great salesperson too, she loves selling cookie dough for her school and she always sells the max amount to get the biggest prize, so her entrepreneurial instincts have me proud and confident that when she's an adult she will be even more self-driven, people oriented and successful. She does the same for her cheer-leading Pop Warner squad. I can't stop her to be honest lol

    She seems to be a very ambitious kid. I'm a single dad and have had her since she was newborn so the whole "he's a bad dad" bs is just that, bs from internet wanna be tough guys who don't know the first thing about forming a real opinion or fatherhood and basically resort to moronic statements like that because they don't know how to actually debate the subject at hand. lol

    The FDA told you to think this way since childhood, I understand you were brainwashed and never busted out of that horrible way of thinking. The notion that she puts others at risk is the brainwashed bull you have been fed Why hasn't she been sick then and others have? haha

    It's funny to see all of you have no idea what you are talking about.

    And I don't believe anyone in here that says they haven't been sick at all that regularly takes meds and vaccines. It's a lie

    The thing is to take as less of these things as possible. If it's an emergency to the ER and you need a vaccine, pain meds, etc, I am not against that. if you're shot, stabbed or need an emergency procedure, that's understandable, but the scam of making a vaccine and medication for everything is laughable.

    It is my right as parent to make the right choice for my child to not poison her with fraudulent poisonous vaccines throughout her childhood, and guess what, she never gets sick, but yet all these kids that DO take vaccines are always sick lol, odd.

    I'm glad I made the right choice and that my daughter is as healthy as ever, and smarter than ever.

    Educate yourselves, keep an open mind and you'll be amazed.

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    Yeah, it's all a conspiracy! Everybody is lying and trying to harm you.

    bad parent

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    Yea, it just takes some open minded research Look into it.

    You're a bad parent. Children and Elderly are most at risk for infectious disease due to naive/compromised immune systems.
    And yet my daughter's going on 14, hasn't been sick in 10 years and has the strongest immune system than any kid she knows

    What if your daughter had an illness that required medication?
    That's the flawed thinking that has you and others type the ignorance that you type. Sickness requires a way of dieting and vitamins, not medications. If you have properly done this, more than likely you don't get sick and even if you did it would be over quicker than the average person, with natural vitamins and diet. If it's an emergency type procedure, then maybe. But, I will never make it a lifestyle. That's why she and I are so healthy. Not the "healthy" that you and the FDA considers healthy, but ACTUALLY healthy.

    She hasn't gotten sick yet, so no problem so far.

    How often do kids in your family get sick, has it been over ten years for them too? I doubt it.


    What does this have to do with vaccines? The fallacy with this kind of logic is assuming vaccines don't do any good. We know vaccines prevent disease so withholding important vaccines from a child is pretty ignorant and dangerous.
    And yet again, she hasn't gotten sick in ten years. But other vaccinated kids always do lol


    Congrats on your immune system. Let me know how that goes when you're 60 years old.
    If you haven't died of cancer or liver failure from vaccines and meds by then, sure thing

    You rail on pharmaceutical companies but take supplements? Supplements being the least regulated substances you can put into your body. Which supplements do you take from which companies?
    Ever heard of natural juicing, and natural supplements? nah, that's obviously far too advanced for you. Look into it. You are still stuck in the crazy world of believing the corrupt FDA needs to regulate nature, so you have a lot of work to do lol

    Have fun with shingles.
    Have fun with your sicknesses. I'll let you know when shingles pops up lol (never)


    What do you know about it? Do you know what vaccines are and how they work?
    I know we haven't needed any, and those that think they do get sick a lot. lol Don't fix what's not broken

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    Yeah, it's all a conspiracy! Everybody is lying and trying to harm you.

    bad parent
    Again, no real argument.

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    I do have an argument.

    You are so paranoid that you would deny your daughter vaccines because you think the FDA is trying to trick you into getting them. And you think that your daughter getting good grades somehow makes up for that.

    You also take supplements .

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    I do have an argument.

    You are so paranoid that you would deny your daughter vaccines because you think the FDA is trying to trick you into getting them. And you think that your daughter getting good grades somehow makes up for that.

    You also take supplements .
    Nah, I said YOU are brainwashed by the FDA. And I protect my daughter from poisons and she doesn't and hasn't gotten sick because of it, and her getting great grades shows I do a pretty damn great job as a daddy Oh, and my natural supplement taking and juicing has kept me from getting sick too, but yet you and people you know try the alternative and you all get sick. So, I guess I'm right on this debate

    Moron lol

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    And I don't believe anyone in here that says they haven't been sick at all that regularly takes meds and vaccines. It's a lie
    OK, I don't believe you either. You lie.

    That was easy.

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    ridiculously small sample size
    thinking correlation equals causation
    anecdotal evidence > millions of dollars worth of tests

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    ridiculously small sample size
    thinking correlation equals causation
    anecdotal evidence > millions of dollars worth of tests
    My own sample size and those that I know that do the same is good enough for me, and it works.

    Millions of dollars of tests to fool Americans into taking meds and vaccines at record rates which in turn creates record profits, and still keeps all of you sick and causing further side affects and more sickness in other areas from said meds and vaccines in the long run which in turn creates more record profits

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    Hope your kid doesn't die.

    It would totally be your fault.

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    My own sample size and those that I know that do the same is good enough for me
    Of course it is. You're an idiot.

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    Of course it is. You're an idiot.
    Who hasn't been sick in over 7 years lol

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    So? Lots of people haven't been sick in seven years. Your sample size is ridiculously small. You equate correlation with causation. You use anecdotal evidence as concrete proof. You dismiss all other evidence as lies, so no matter what, you will be right.

    You're delusional.

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    So? Lots of people haven't been sick in seven years. Your sample size is ridiculously small. You equate correlation with causation. You use anecdotal evidence as concrete proof. You dismiss all other evidence as lies, so no matter what, you will be right.

    You're delusional.
    No, just healthy lol

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    Common sense, it would help some people lol


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    No, just healthy lol
    So are lots of people who take vaccinations.

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    So are lots of people who take vaccinations.
    Millyuns!

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