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    Not a good day for the Big 12 either.
    Not a bad day either.

    Just a bit disappointing.

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    TCU was the shoe in to replace A&M on Thanksgiving when it was announced they were joining.
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    Not a good day for the Big10.
    Doesn't really change anything for the Big 10.

    Doesn't change $$ from the network and all ND did was move their Olympic sports from one crappy conference to another. So they will play 5 games against ACC foes. A similar agreement was promised to the Big East and then ND gradually got away from that.

    Will be curious to see if the ACC will try to add another conference memeber and try to bring in ND for all sports for a 16 team conference though.

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    Supposedly...

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    Doesn't really change anything for the Big 10.

    Doesn't change $$ from the network and all ND did was move their Olympic sports from one crappy conference to another. So they will play 5 games against ACC foes. A similar agreement was promised to the Big East and then ND gradually got away from that.

    Will be curious to see if the ACC will try to add another conference memeber and try to bring in ND for all sports for a 16 team conference though.
    Doesn't change anything today, but does take away the Big10's best expansion target for the future.

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    Doesn't change anything today, but does take away the Big10's best expansion target for the future.
    True, but ND to the Big 10 was only going to happen if the 16 team mega conferences happened and even then it was not guaranteed.

    ND was not going to willingly join the Big 10 and give up their "independence".

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    True, but ND to the Big 10 was only going to happen if the 16 team mega conferences happened and even then it was not guaranteed.

    ND was not going to willingly join the Big 10 and give up their "independence".
    But they apparently were willing, if not to join, to affiliate with the ACC in football and limit their "independence."

    B1G didn't need Notre Dame anyway. If you've seen one laughably overrated Midwestern football program you've seen them all.

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    http://outkickthecoverage.com/notre-...s-what-now.php

    good article explaining everything up to this point.

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    UT to the ACC?

    Why?

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    Doesn't say that that's going to happen. Says it's the ACCs dream scenario and that Texas is still the piece that has options and any real serious expansion is now centered around them. If they decide to stay in the big12 with ten teams and be the only major conference without a championship game then that should be the end of any major re-alignment at least for the foreseeable future.

    SEC,PAC,ACC,B1G are all done for now and the BIG12 has no options that will bring in the kind of $ they need. They are stuck at 10 teams.

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    Doesn't say that that's going to happen. Says it's the ACCs dream scenario and that Texas is still the piece that has options and any real serious expansion is now centered around them. If they decide to stay in the big12 with ten teams and be the only major conference without a championship game then that should be the end of any major re-alignment at least for the foreseeable future.

    SEC,PAC,ACC,B1G are all done for now and the BIG12 has no options that will bring in the kind of $ they need. They are stuck at 10 teams.
    Eh, if UT ever wanted in another conference, all it would have to do is ask.

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    Be a little more complicated than that but nice to see the arrogance is still there.

    They'd have to drop their network.

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    Be a little more complicated than that but nice to see the arrogance is still there.
    Just recognition. Not a UT fan. They are simply without a doubt the most attractive school out there that could possibly be in play.

    They'd have to drop their network.
    Depends on where they wanted to go.

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    There's a few reasons why this will never happen but I don't see the B1G or SEC really even considering accepting Texas as a member and with the stipulations these conferences would require I don't think Texas would ever be interested in return tbh.

    Sure if Texas wanted to go to the Pac or ACC they can go any time they want.

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    There's a few reasons why this will never happen but I don't see the B1G or SEC really even considering accepting Texas as a member and with the stipulations these conferences would require I don't think Texas would ever be interested in return tbh.

    Sure if Texas wanted to go to the Pac or ACC they can go any time they want.
    The only real reason for UT to join any other conference would be to make more money. If it had to give up its network for that, it would.

    And UT would be welcome anywhere. It's just that big a player.

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    And UT would be welcome anywhere. It's just that big a player.
    It's re ed to keep saying this because you make it seem like everybody wants them just as they are which is untrue.

    In that article he actually makes a nice case if Texas were to go Notre Dames route. Join the ACC in everything but football, play 5 games against them and then Dodds has 7 games a year he can mess with on his Longhorn network without any conference restrictions. That has to seem appealing to him but I agree that it doesn't happen.

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    It's re ed to keep saying this because you make it seem like everybody wants them just as they are which is untrue.
    They aren't available. I'm simply assuming conferences aren't run by complete idiots. What would be the downside for any conference looking to expand if UT was motivated by money to join on equal terms?

    In that article he actually makes a nice case if Texas were to go Notre Dames route. Join the ACC in everything but football, play 5 games against them and then Dodds has 7 games a year he can mess with on his Longhorn network without any conference restrictions. That has to seem appealing to him but I agree that it doesn't happen.
    Would that mean any more money for UT than it currently gets? That's really all that would matter at this point.

    All this talk of movement is moot until we know what the playoff format looks like and means to conferences.

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    It's re ed to keep saying this because you make it seem like everybody wants them just as they are which is untrue.

    In that article he actually makes a nice case if Texas were to go Notre Dames route. Join the ACC in everything but football, play 5 games against them and then Dodds has 7 games a year he can mess with on his Longhorn network without any conference restrictions. That has to seem appealing to him but I agree that it doesn't happen.
    Acting as if Texas couldn't go anywhere they wanted.

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    And really, I have to say that conference championship games are dumb for teams that want to go to a national championship game. If you've done well enough in the regular season, why risk the L? Seems worth paying $1 million to not have to play tbh.

    Conference USA championship game? yes. We have to find out who gets to go to the Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl.

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    Acting as if Texas couldn't go anywhere they wanted.
    Currently, as of today. No they couldn't go anywhere they wanted. A lot of things would have to change (which aren't going to so it's pointless that we are talking about it) before a conference like the B1G or SEC would feel comfortable accepting conference killer Texas.

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    And really, I have to say that conference championship games are dumb for teams that want to go to a national championship game. If you've done well enough in the regular season, why risk the L? Seems worth paying $1 million to not have to play tbh.

    Conference USA championship game? yes. We have to find out who gets to go to the Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl.
    Obviously that SEC championship game has definitely hurt them trying to win an MNC. Wait..


    It could go the other way though. Stuck at 3 but you have a conference championship game and #2 doesn't. You win you get in the game.

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    With Texas it's all about "on whose terms?"

    On the conference's terms, Texas can get in to any conference it wants. Yes, this includes the SEC.

    On Texas' terms, their options are pretty much limited to the Big 12, independence and possibly the ACC.

    Of course the whole conversation is purely academic until Texas has it's 1st & 2nd tier broadcast rights back because nobody's taking Texas without those. Along those lines, I'm curious how iron clad that grant of rights agreement really is. For the time being it certainly looks like Baylor, Iowa State, the Kansaii and others were successful in getting Texas to agree to handucuff itself to them, but I've got to believe that Texas has a key stashed away somewhere.......

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    It could go the other way though. Stuck at 3 but you have a conference championship game and #2 doesn't. You win you get in the game.
    a conference championship game is a much bigger gamble to play in than not.

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    With Texas it's all about "on whose terms?"

    On the conference's terms, Texas can get in to any conference it wants. Yes, this includes the SEC.

    On Texas' terms, their options are pretty much limited to the Big 12, independence and possibly the ACC.

    Of course the whole conversation is purely academic until Texas has it's 1st & 2nd tier broadcast rights back because nobody's taking Texas without those. Along those lines, I'm curious how iron clad that grant of rights agreement really is. For the time being it certainly looks like Baylor, Iowa State, the Kansaii and others were successful in getting Texas to agree to handucuff itself to them, but I've got to believe that Texas has a key stashed away somewhere.......
    lol kansaii

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    Of course the whole conversation is purely academic until Texas has it's 1st & 2nd tier broadcast rights back because nobody's taking Texas without those. Along those lines, I'm curious how iron clad that grant of rights agreement really is. For the time being it certainly looks like Baylor, Iowa State, the Kansaii and others were successful in getting Texas to agree to handucuff itself to them, but I've got to believe that Texas has a key stashed away somewhere.......
    exactly.

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