lmao Willard

[ChumpDumper]

Getting delegates elected to the convention, putting electors in the Electoral College, taking over state and local Republican Parties, and raising awareness of libertarian politics at large in spite of a biased mainstream media are all pretty savvy, tbh.... far savvier than cheating at the convention and outright buying the nomination like Willard did....

I'd say the guy who won was more savvy tbh.

Scoreboard.

[Clipper Nation]

Show me the scoreboard that shows he won.

I showed you the scoreboard that shows he lost to Newt Gingrich.

Ron Paul had delegates at the RNC, Newt didn't.... scoreboard.

Ron Paul had at least five pluralities, and his delegates filed the paperwork that would allow him to be nominated under the old rules, which were changed via a rigged voice vote... scoreboard.

I'd say the guy who won was more savvy tbh.

Scoreboard.

Sweet logic... if just buying the nomination is savvier than overcoming built-in disadvantages and still winning, I guess that means the Yankees who buy all their players are savvier this year than the Orioles who develop their players, even though they're both tied for the division lead right now and are both playoff-bound....

[ChumpDumper]

Ron Paul had delegates at the RNC, Newt didn't.... scoreboard.

Oh, he had 180 and Willard had over 2000.

Scoreboard.

Ron Paul had at least five pluralities, and his delegates filed the paperwork that would allow him to be nominated under the old rules, which were changed via a rigged voice vote... scoreboard.

So, you don't have anything resembling a scoreboard.

Sweet logic... if just buying the nomination is savvier than overcoming built-in disadvantages and still winning, I guess that means the Yankees who buy all their players are savvier this year than the Orioles who develop their players, even though they're both tied for the division lead right now and are both playoff-bound....

savvy

noun
Definition of SAVVY
: practical know-how <political savvy>

Looks like Romney had the know how to win the nomination.

If the Yankees win, they will have had the know how to win.

Savvy.

[Clipper Nation]

I guess the Moneyball A's weren't "savvy" then because they didn't win the World Series, even though they changed the way the entire league scouts, develops, and analyzes players....

Also, "practical know-how" =/= winning....

[ChumpDumper]

I guess the Moneyball A's weren't "savvy" then because they didn't win the World Series, even though they changed the way the entire league scouts, develops, and analyzes players....

Also, "practical know-how" =/= winning....

Not as savvy as the ones who actually won.

Those teams had the know how to win.

Paul got outmaneuvered. I called it a long time ago. Guess that makes me savvy.

[Clipper Nation]

Nope, Paul just got outcheated and outspent... Ron bless

[ChumpDumper]

Nope, Paul just got outcheated and outspent... Ron bless

Gotta love the denial of the Paul .

Please show us the method how you claim Paul was going to win the nomination by any method with verifiable numbers.

Then you can claim scoreboard.

[Clipper Nation]

I've already provided plenty of numbers and facts, you just choose to ignore them...

In denial

[Wild Cobra]

I've already provided plenty of numbers and facts, you just choose to ignore them...

In denial

Are you expecting Chumpmeister to be reasonable?

[Clipper Nation]

Are you expecting Chumpmeister to be reasonable?

Not really, it's just funny to see him get all worked up and have to resort to UTSA rhetorical devices and namecalling, tbh....

[ChumpDumper]

I've already provided plenty of numbers and facts, you just choose to ignore them...

In denial

Hey, if you can't provide an actual scenario with verifiable numbers, just say so.

I don't expect you to be able to, so this kind of answer and some post count smack is all I think is you can post about this from now on.

My contention is that Ron Paul had no chance at all to win the nomination at the convention regardless of the method attempted.

Prove me wrong.

[scott]

[Clipper Nation]

My contention is that Ron Paul had no chance at all to win the nomination at the convention regardless of the method attempted.

Prove me wrong.

I agree with you there.... what I disagree with is the idea that there were somehow HONEST reasons why he had no chance... anyone who kept track of the RNC knew that the voice vote was questionable at best, that Maine got screwed, and the rule changes effectively killed any grassroots in this party...

Since the most you can do to counter these facts is to bring up meaningless straw polls and call people "assholes," I think we're pretty much done here...

[ChumpDumper]

I agree with you there.

Yep, we're done.

Thanks. Took you long enough.

[Clipper Nation]

If you actually read my posts this whole time, you would realize that I've been saying that if everyone followed the rules, Ron Paul had a chance.... since the RNC cheated and changed the rules at the last second, they removed that chance.... but I know you're too busy padding that precious post count of yours to actually follow an argument, so it is what it is, B...

[ChumpDumper]

If you actually read my posts this whole time, you would realize that I've been saying that if everyone followed the rules, Ron Paul had a chance.... since the RNC cheated and changed the rules at the last second, they removed that chance.... but I know you're too busy padding that precious post count of yours to actually follow an argument, so it is what it is, B...

Wait, so you don't agree with me.

OK, we're back to your disproving my contention that there was no way Paul was going to win the nomination under the old rules.

Prove me wrong.

[Clipper Nation]

I have proven you wrong, and you've ignored it, so trying to get me to keep arguing in circles with you is pointless....

[Wild Cobra]

Yep, we're done.

Thanks. Took you long enough.

Typical Chump. Take the win on the point not being in play.

[ChumpDumper]

I have proven you wrong, and you've ignored it, so trying to get me to keep arguing in circles with you is pointless....

No, you haven't proved me wrong and now you know you can't, so you're whining and will probably start with the post count smack or other distraction technique.

Just say you don't have the numbers to disprove my contention and never did. I already know it. You already know it. You need to admit it to yourself so you can get on with your life.

[ChumpDumper]

Typical Chump. Take the win on the point not being in play.

Typical WC. Talking out of his ass about something about which he knows nothing.

[Wild Cobra]

Typical WC. Talking out of his ass about something about which he knows nothing.

I would say you don't know, but then the idea of having principles is probably illusive to you.

[Clipper Nation]

No, you haven't proved me wrong and now you know you can't, so you're whining and will probably start with the post count smack or other distraction technique.

I have provided numbers and facts, while YOU have called people "assholes" for exercising their cons utional right to a republican form of government, posted the ulative results of meaningless straw polls, and bickered over the definition of "savvy".... remind me again who's using distraction techniques?

When even Wild Cobra is ting on you, it's clear that your argument simply sucks, B.....

You need to admit it to yourself so you can get on with your life.

YOU of all people shouldn't be lecturing anyone else on "getting on with their lives"....

[ChumpDumper]

I have provided numbers and facts

Not any that prove Paul could have won the nomination.

Quit with the smack talk and name calling and prove me wrong.

That's all you have to do.

And party rules are not covered by the Cons ution btw.

[Clipper Nation]

The Cons ution guarantees a republican form of government.... A republican government features things like conventions and delegates and the Electoral College that would have no reason to exist in a mob-rule democracy.... by disenfranchising Ron Paul's legally elected delegates for no apparent reason other than that they wouldn't be voting for the chosen moneyed elite candidate, the RNC severely disrupted the whole electoral process of our republican government....

[Wild Cobra]

The Cons ution guarantees a republican form of government.... A republican government features things like conventions and delegates and the Electoral College that would have no reason to exist in a mob-rule democracy.... by disenfranchising Ron Paul's legally elected delegates for no apparent reason other than that they wouldn't be voting for the chosen moneyed elite candidate, the RNC severely disrupted the whole electoral process of our republican government....

Like I said. Chumpmeister doesn't know what principle is. He seems to have no integrity, so he doesn't understand such concepts.