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    Um, how is it a failure? He's right.... decades of meddling in the Middle East have helped completely destroy our reputation in the region, tbh....

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    Um, how is it a failure? He's right.... decades of meddling in the Middle East have helped completely destroy our reputation in the region, tbh....
    Then let's leave and see if they "self correct".

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    because they still believe in fairy tales about a man in the sky. Their philosophy of life is not compatible with our democracy that stems from the Judeo/Christian values of the new testament. But we have separated our religious and political lives, and they don't like that because it is a threat to their very existence of their culture. Arabs have never liked Europeans period!(They love our beautiful women though). They threw the first punch ever sense Europeans lived like Hunter gatherers. We have to finish the fight!

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    Relations will continue to be bad as long as politicians, mainly the right continue to take money from zionists and Christian Zionists, who manipulate their ignorant followers/sheep. This is one of reasons I won't be voting Republican in the near future.

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    Then let's leave and see if they "self correct".
    Why don't we leave and not give a about it one way or another?

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    Then let's leave and see if they "self correct".
    they wont. Islam is a threat to humanity. Every country where they are the majority is ty. They kill Christians/Jews and atheist people but you will never hear it from our pro-liberal musllim Government. Their still mad about the Crusades The media tells you that it was a holy war against the arabs, but in reality it was to stop the spread of Islam to the rest of Europe and liberate the Spanish and Portuguese. Sharia law in sucks ass!!! You should thank our Europeans ancestors if not World history would of been way different. Imagine Muslim North and South America. no!

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    they wont. Islam is a threat to humanity. Every country where they are the majority is ty. They kill Christians/Jews and atheist people but you will never hear it from our pro-liberal musllim Government. Their still mad about the Crusades The media tells you that it was a holy war against the arabs, but in reality it was to stop the spread of Islam to the rest of Europe and liberate the Spanish and Portuguese. Sharia law in sucks ass!!! You should thank our Europeans ancestors if not World history would of been way different. Imagine Muslim North and South America. no!
    You have a very strange understanding of history.

    The Crusades were about the rule (ownership) of Jerusalem, promoted by the Christian churches (the Catholics being the most vocal).

    The liberation of certain parts of Europe from the Muslim conquerors, had nothing to do with the Crusades. The conquest of Europe by the Muslims had nothing to do with hate but with the expansion of the "only true" faith to Europe and the political and economic gains that came with it. The Catholic church was doing the same thing with pretty much the same methods too. So let's not pretend that we are so much better.

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    Relations will continue to be bad as long as politicians, mainly the right continue to take money from zionists and Christian Zionists, who manipulate their ignorant followers/sheep. This is one of reasons I won't be voting Republican in the near future.
    That is the in truth! Arabs will never like westerns. We give them so much money for their oil that it's not the Americans peoples fault that their corrupt leaders spend on themselves and not invest it on their people. Then their leaders make us out to be the bad guys by spreading anti-American hate and propaganda. We are in a loosing battle as long as their leaders don't invest on their own people. But why don't they invest? Because it's more profitable for the Muslim elite in those countries to keep them the way they are. Dumb, uneducated, ignorance, etc.

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    Christians giving their take on the Crusades is always some of the funniest revisionist history out there.

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    You have a very strange understanding of history.

    The Crusades were about the rule (ownership) of Jerusalem, promoted by the Christian churches (the Catholics being the most vocal).

    The liberation of certain parts of Europe from the Muslim conquerors, had nothing to do with the Crusades. The conquest of Europe by the Muslims had nothing to do with hate but with the expansion of the "only true" faith to Europe and the political and economic gains that came with it. The Catholic church was doing the same thing with pretty much the same methods too. So let's not pretend that we are so much better.

    Yes, but the Catholic church belongs to Europeans derived from a mix of European Pagan and middle Eastern ideals. We would of been much worse of with the Muslims in control of our political lives.

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    Between the content of his posts and the sentence structure (or lack thereof) Ginobilly uses, it's pretty clear he's severely lacking in formal education.

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    Yes, but the Catholic church belongs to Europeans derived from a mix of European Pagan and middle Eastern ideals. We would of been much worse of with the Muslims in control of our political lives.
    ????

    It's was the clash of two different civilizations (with two different religions) for exactly the same reasons (economic masked as religious). The Christians won and proceeded to with them for centuries creating strong resentment, even hate, from them.

    I agree, had they won the same would have happened just in reverse.

    What would our lives be like now if they won? Nobody knows, because there is no way to predict what would have happened if an English Imam engineer invented the steam engine.

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    Between the content of his posts and the sentence structure (or lack thereof) Ginobilly uses, it's pretty clear he's severely lacking in formal education.
    I think your severely lacking in having huevos.

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    ????

    It's was the clash of two different civilizations (with two different religions) for exactly the same reasons (economic masked as religious). The Christians won and proceeded to with them for centuries creating strong resentment, even hate, from them.

    I agree, had they won the same would have happened just in reverse.

    What would our lives be like now if they won? Nobody knows, because there is no way to predict what would have happened if an English Imam engineer invented the steam engine.

    Spurs won. You should be glad the "good" guys won.

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    Americans don't understand much outside of the USA.

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    We make some simple things very hard.

    Imagine, if you will, what would happen if the United Nations decided, somehow if they had the power to do so, that on account of the bad things happening to ethnically Mesoamerican Mexicans because of their ongoing drug war, that it was going to carve out San Diego and Imperial Counties from California, and call that land the Republic of Aztlan, and that those who consider themselves descended from the Aztecs could all repatriate there. Most of the existing Anglo population would be sent to refugee camps in Orange and Riverside Counties where they could work out how to begin their life anew. Surely their Anglo brethren would just absorb them.

    It makes sense, right? It's their ancestral homeland! Southern California is already full of presumptive Aztecs anyway! The Anglos have their choice of 50 states to live in while the Aztecs will have just this little sliver of land! The United Nations said so!

    I'm sure everyone would just shrug at this turn of events and go on with their lives.

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    Christians giving their take on the Crusades is always some of the funniest revisionist history out there.
    Look, I'm not advocating for Christianity or anything religious mumbo-jumbo of whose religion is self righteous. All religion is BS! The point is Europeans(whether pagan/catholic/witchcraft) in didn't want Islam or their ideals shoved down their in throats, and much less pay in taxes to camel jockeys. So what do they do?? Invade in worthless piece of Israel(cause isn't Jerusalem their 2nd most important site) and highjack their stupid site where Mohamed flew to heaven.

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    Look, I'm not advocating for Christianity or anything religious mumbo-jumbo of whose religion is self righteous. All religion is BS! The point is Europeans(whether pagan/catholic/witchcraft) in didn't want Islam or their ideals shoved down their in throats, and much less pay in taxes to camel jockeys. So what do they do?? Invade in worthless piece of Israel(cause isn't Jerusalem their 2nd most important site) and highjack their stupid site where Mohamed flew to heaven.

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    Why don't we leave and not give a about it one way or another?
    And let the extremists run rampant?

    I say we nuke that part of the world and be done with those s.

    Fighting those s in Iraq, Afghanistan and that part of the country has pretty much being the only wars since WW2.

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    "why americans don't understand the middle east"

    if you could understand it, wouldn't you be ing crazy as well?

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