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Obama, welcome to 4 more years.
Romney knew he completely loss when he put Clint on the stage. That was really the killing blow.
Obama, welcome to 4 more years.
Romney knew he completely loss when he put Clint on the stage. That was really the killing blow.
I think you've misrepresented the statement in your thread le. He's not saying that Obama voters don't pay income taxes. He's saying people who don't pay income taxes only vote Democrat. Which is almost worse.
It's just baffling. How do you serve as a Republican in government for 20 years and think there are no Republicans in the bottom income tax bracket?
He knows it's bull . He's just trying to fire up the monied class that donate to his campaign. I'd bet that the 47% that don't pay taxes and vote is evenly split between republicans and democrats when you take into account the elderly, the rednecks and the people who are just too stupid to understand they're part of the 47%. Keep your government hands off my Medicaid!
Sounds like a very frustrated candidate that's throwing a little tantrum because he's not getting what he thinks he's en led to. The guy has been running for president for two elections now so it has to be a little frustrating to him that he's not getting over the hump. It's his own fault really. Never mind that he has the personality of a piece of driftwood but he's been Mr. Vague on everything. It seems like he thought he could breeze through this election for some reason.
And the last thing he should ever mention is taxesThat argument was finally starting to die down. Now that he's bringing it up again about Obama supporters not paying taxes it opens the door for critics to say "let's see yours" once again.
So what voters will Romney lose over this statement?
The White House
It's possible he'll lose some educated independents. The arithmetic, like his ridiculous budget, just does't add up. If Obama has 47% of the electorate locked up (we all know a great majority of them don't vote), he'd win in a mother- ing landslide because we all know more educated people vote for him, unions, teachers, etc all of whom pay taxes...Romney is a straight up moron. Why you have such a hard on for him is beyond me.
I don't. I've never been a big fan but the alternative is 4 more years of guaranteed inep ude.
I think you're making the same mistake Romney is making in believing this race comes down to independents when it's all about turning out the base.
And based on the campaign Romney has run, what is it that makes you think he will be any less inept. I mean this guy is bumbling fool. The funny thing is this is the best candidate the GOP had to run.
9/17. The day Mitt decided he really didn't want to be president anymore.
Never forget.
A lot of that 47% also includes folks who make a lot of money.
Fatal blunder.
A strategy for turning out the base is too narrow for Romney. He has to win over independent/swing voters.
Romney camp better hope Biden comes out and says he and Obama like to tag team drunk girls, or something equally stupid. Only chance they have now.
battle done before it ever began just like the 12' NBA finals imho, dude did act like a clown in multiple interviews which have cemented his loss, but whos gonna vote for a mormon anyway?
lol, Romney just called a press conference to address his idiocy.
"I didn't speak eloquently..." lolz
I switched over to Fox News where they showed the press conference and the Fox News crew didn't even know which video he was talking about. That's how out of touch those dummies are.
"My job is not to worry about those people."
Try not to this one up, Barry.
"My job is not to worry about those people."
Try not to this one up, Barry.
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Willard's an Obama voter now?
No, it's 4 more years of gridlock that reduces the amount of liberty destruction, as opposed to 8 years of a sociopath liar as POTUS with a blank check to start a ton of wars and ruin our currency...
Better than zero chance tbh.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/09/18...ell-romney.xml
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Thurston Howell Romney
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: September 18, 2012
In 1980, about 30 percent of Americans received some form of government benefits. Today, as Nicholas Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Ins ute has pointed out, about 49 percent do.
In 1960, government transfers to individuals totaled $24 billion. By 2010, that total was 100 times as large. Even after adjusting for inflation, en lement transfers to individuals have grown by more than 700 percent over the last 50 years. This spending surge, Eberstadt notes, has increased faster under Republican administrations than Democratic ones.
There are sensible conclusions to be drawn from these facts. You could say that the en lement state is growing at an unsustainable rate and will bankrupt the country. You could also say that America is spending way too much on health care for the elderly and way too little on young families and investments in the future.
But these are not the sensible arguments that Mitt Romney made at a fund-raiser earlier this year. Romney, who criticizes President Obama for dividing the nation, divided the nation into two groups: the makers and the moochers. Forty-seven percent of the country, he said, are people "who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to take care of them, who believe they are en led to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."
This comment suggests a few things. First, it suggests that he really doesn't know much about the country he inhabits. Who are these freeloaders? Is it the Iraq war veteran who goes to the V.A.? Is it the student getting a loan to go to college? Is it the retiree on Social Security or Medicare?
It suggests that Romney doesn't know much about the culture of America.
Yes, the en lement state has expanded, but America remains one of the hardest-working nations on earth. Americans work longer hours than just about anyone else. Americans believe in work more than almost any other people. Ninety-two percent say that hard work is the key to success, according to a 2009 Pew Research Survey.
It says that Romney doesn't know much about the political culture. Americans haven't become childlike worshipers of big government. On the contrary, trust in government has declined. The number of people who think government spending promotes social mobility has fallen.
The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Ins ution has noted, the people who have benefited from the en lements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.
Romney's comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact. In 1987, during Ronald Reagan's second term, 62 percent of Republicans believed that the government has a responsibility to help those who can't help themselves. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, only 40 percent of Republicans believe that.
The Republican Party, and apparently Mitt Romney, too, has shifted over toward a much more hyperindividualistic and atomistic social view - from the Reaganesque language of common citizenship to the libertarian language of makers and takers. There's no way the country will trust the Republican Party to reform the welfare state if that party doesn't have a basic commitment to provide a safety net for those who suffer for no fault of their own.
The final thing the comment suggests is that Romney knows nothing about ambition and motivation. The formula he sketches is this: People who are forced to make it on their own have drive. People who receive benefits have dependency.
But, of course, no middle-class parent acts as if this is true. Middle-class parents don't deprive their children of benefits so they can learn to struggle on their own. They shower benefits on their children to give them more opportunities - so they can play travel sports, go on foreign trips and develop more skills.
People are motivated when they feel competent. They are motivated when they have more opportunities. Ambition is fired by possibility, not by deprivation, as a tour through the world's poorest regions makes clear.
Sure, there are some government programs that cultivate patterns of dependency in some people. I'd put federal disability payments and unemployment insurance in this category. But, as a description of America today, Romney's comment is a country-club fantasy. It's what self-satisfied millionaires say to each other. It reinforces every negative view people have about Romney.
Personally, I think he's a kind, decent man who says stupid things because he is pretending to be something he is not - some sort of cartoonish government-hater. But it scarcely matters. He's running a depressingly inept presidential campaign. Mr. Romney, your en lement reform ideas are essential, but when will the incompetence stop?
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