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    I don't think mouse is Christian. He does believe that aliens made humans, so you should probably pursue that line of questioning.
    when asked who made those aliens, he usually melts down and just posts a picture of himself laying in front of his 1989 Zenith TV

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    What BLAKE,RandomLie,Deadzero.Wild Conya,and Agloco wont explain is if Darwin was right and Scientist confirm Evolution took place as a result of the big bang that still doesn't explain all the 105 elements we now have when the big bang only produced helium and hydrogen? Elements don't evolve.
    First of all, if you think about it, I have said things that support or dismiss views from both sides. As for elements, do you know what fusion is?

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    Does she really love me, I can't prove it but prefer to believe she is telling the truth. It makes me feel better. This believing in "a" God is like that, some things simply don't have to..."could you prove it huh? huh? huh?" You just go with it.

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    Does she really love me, I can't prove it but prefer to believe she is telling the truth. It makes me feel better. This believing in "a" God is like that, some things simply don't have to..."could you prove it huh? huh? huh?" You just go with it.
    And that's fine, but when Christianity stops being that and starts being an excuse to make bigoted laws and ostracize all non-Christian religions (and atheists), then it becomes an issue.....

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    And how long would it take to post the link?


    If you actually knew the definition of Stupid you would have stopped replying 23 pages ago.

    I put links to each article.

    Is that what you are looking for?

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    Mouse's response to this will be blandly predictable.

    He will simply copy and paste articles from creationist websites, without addressing any of the evidence I have just presented.

    Instead, he will make something up about what evolution is, then "disprove" this non-existant theory using someone elses words, and brag about how much smarter he is than "Darwinists".


    What BLAKE,RandomLie,Deadzero.Wild Conya,and Agloco wont explain is if Darwin was right and Scientist confirm Evolution took place as a result of the big bang that still doesn't explain all the 105 elements we now have when the big bang only produced helium and hydrogen? Elements don't evolve.


    This is the they avoid.





    You copied and pastde articles from creationist websites, without addressing any of the evidence I have just presented, then went on to make something up about what evolution is, then "disprove"d this non-existant theory using someone elses words, and bragged about how much smarter you are than "Darwinists".


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    There's no way of knowing what Mouse believes. Everything he says is a lie and an attempt to solict a response. He's so enamored with the trolling concept that he's sold his life to it.
    Eyup.

    That's why putting much effort into responding to the troll stuff... isn't worth it.

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    What BLAKE,RandomLie,Deadzero.Wild Conya,and Agloco wont explain is if Darwin was right and Scientist confirm Evolution took place as a result of the big bang that still doesn't explain all the 105 elements we now have when the big bang only produced helium and hydrogen? Elements don't evolve.


    This is the they avoid.


    It's a full series, enjoy.


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    Elements don't evolve.
    Their nuclei do fuse and/or absorb other baryons though.

    Come on mouse, you can do better than this.

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    Does she really love me, I can't prove it but prefer to believe she is telling the truth. It makes me feel better. This believing in "a" God is like that, some things simply don't have to..."could you prove it huh? huh? huh?" You just go with it.
    Wow. You really have no ing idea when it comes to epistemology if you think forcing a belief in an all knowing invisible sky daddy equates to believing your wife loves you because she sucks your even though you have to lift your 120lb ponch with both hands just to see it.

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    Wow. You really have no ing idea when it comes to epistemology if you think forcing a belief in an all knowing invisible sky daddy equates to believing your wife loves you because she sucks your even though you have to lift your 120lb ponch with both hands just to see it.
    Don't you ever get tired of this..."aren't I sooo funny?"..bit? Dude, who you talking to? You sure in the ain't talking to me with that silly ass bull . So why even bother with it? Talk like an intelligent adult not some punk ass kid...ok? I know. I know you need to showoff in front of everyone, that is so ing immature.

    Listen up amigo, the point was no we can't prove every ing thing, ya reckon? So to play this totally idiotic..."I can't see Him"...that is so ing lame. Do you buy into that silliness, you do don't you?

    So tell me slick how come far ...FAR.. more people believe in "a" God than don't......well?

    Your parents did a piss poor job raising your dumb ass. Talking about sex between a man and his wife....??? Dude, where's some class?
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    Avante's analogies are embarrassing.

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    Avante's analogies are embarrassing.
    Think about, can we prove emotions? No we can't, so what do we do? We go with what feels the best. Prove jealousy, envy, hate, love. Who can prove they really feel that way? They really can't.

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    Think about, can we prove emotions?
    Prove to whom and why? I know that I am angry because I am angry. Other people know that I am angry because of the way I behave. There are traits one associates with anger. This can be observed.

    Also, the brain itself reacts in different ways based on mood. This has been observed.

    Your comparison fails completely because one can actually observe and feel emotions. Nobody has observed God. Can we know with absolute certainty (something you will undoubtedly bring up in your response to this post) what somebody is feeling all the time? No, but there are signs. There are no signs of God.

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    Their nuclei do fuse and/or absorb other baryons though.

    Come on mouse, you can do better than this.
    Scientist claim helium and hydrogen were the "only" two elements
    Around during the " big bang" elements don't evolve not to mention the synthetic ones we have. I didn't write this go after the science text books

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    First of all, if you think about it, I have said things that support or dismiss views from both sides. As for elements, do you know what fusion is?
    You can pull out the fusion card all day long you don't get over 105 elements from helium and hydrogen do more research

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    Prove to whom and why? I know that I am angry because I am angry. Other people know that I am angry because of the way I behave. There are traits one associates with anger. This can be observed.

    Also, the brain itself reacts in different ways based on mood. This has been observed.

    Your comparison fails completely because one can actually observe and feel emotions. Nobody has observed God. Can we know with absolute certainty (something you will undoubtedly bring up in your response to this post) what somebody is feeling all the time? No, but there are signs. There are no signs of God.
    Obviously ..OBVIOUSLY..I'm not talking about someone knowing their feelings. I'm talking about trying to convey your emotions to someone else and proving them. How do they know you aren't lying? They don't!

    There are no signs of God? Are you serious? Do you honestly believe He hasn't answered prayers? I had a prayer answered myself.

    Doesn't it bug you living in a world where nobody really buys into your...bah humbugging? All those churches, all those Christians, Catholics, Muslims, Buddists etc etc. When does it hit you that just maybe people prefer a God in their life? What you play totally sucks.
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    Obviously ..OBVIOUSLY..I'm not talking about someone knowing their feelings. I'm talking about trying to convey your emotions to someone else and proving them. How do they know you aren't lying? They don't!
    I predicted that you would try to use absolute certainty, and I was absolutely correct. AGAIN, because you didn't read it the first time, there are traits associated with emotions. If somebody was smiling, you would think that they are happy, correct? Can one know with absolute certainty if that person is happy? No, but one can make a reasonable conclusion based on what they observed.

    There are no signs of God? Are you serious?
    Of course.

    Do you honestly believe He hasn't answered prayers?
    Of course, prayers haven't been answered.

    I had a prayer answered myself.
    Do you have any evidence of divine intervention, or did something that you want to happen, happen?

    Doesn't it bug you living in a world where nobody really buys into your...bah humbugging?
    I don't bah humbug.

    When does it hit you that just maybe people prefer a God in their life?
    That's not the issue here and never has been. Obviously, many people believe that a god exists for comfort. Does that make a god exist? No. Wanting something to be real doesn't make it real.

    What you play totally sucks.
    Excuse me for not letting my emotions cloud my judgement to the point that I would believe in fairy tales.

    I want to believe in something because I have a good reason to believe in it. I don't think your reasons are good, so I don't believe. It's that simple.

    But of course, you're going to ignore the points I made like you always do, because you never want to have a serious discussion about anything.
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    Dance monkey, er mouse.

    Dance.

    I take it all back, if you can state, in your own words what the theory of evolution actually is.
    It's a "theory"

    Just like any other religion.

    Scientist and many Darwin whorshipers work day and night to prove man evouled from ape. That is why the cable tv if full of shows like
    The universe

    Is there life out there

    The beginning of life

    How we got here

    The days of the dinosaurs

    Life on our planet and how we came about

    Tons of tv shows on history channel national geographic dyscovery channel

    And they all promote Darwin and start off the show saying 4 billion years ago.....

    Talk about brain washing on an epic scale.
    It's no wonder we have so many clueless people in this forum.



    Thursday morning and still no poof......

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    I predicted that you would try to use absolute certainty, and I was absolutely correct. AGAIN, because you didn't read it the first time, there are traits associated with emotions. If somebody was smiling, you would think that they are happy, correct? Can one know with absolute certainty if that person is happy? No, but one can make a reasonable conclusion based on what they observed.

    Of course.

    Of course, prayers haven't been answered.

    Do you have any evidence of divine intervention, or did something that you want to happen, happen?

    I don't bah humbug.

    That's not the issue here and never has been. Obviously, many people believe that a god exists for comfort. Does that make a god exist? No. Wanting something to be real doesn't make it real.

    Excuses me for not letting my emotions cloud my judgement to the point that I would believe in fairy tales.

    I want to believe in something because I have a good reason to believe in it. I don't think your reasons are good, so I don't believe. It's that simple.

    But of course, you're going to ignore the points I made like you always do, because you never want to have a serious discussion about anything.
    We are talking absolutes. Can you prove your emotions, no you can't. You can talk about how you feel all you want, you cannot prove it.

    Moving on...

    Why this overwelming need to have absolute proof of something before you can believe in it? Sounds pretty bland to me. So in your world there is no faith in anything, no hope of anything, it's all cold, cut and dry. Sounds very boring to me. And you know for sure there is no God, how do you know that for sure? Remember you said no prayers have ever been answered, so that means you don't believe in God. You can't prove He doesn't exist so since you need proof..........................

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    wow this thread really blew up!

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    We are talking absolutes.
    No, we are not. YOU are talking about absolutes. I am not talking about absolutes, because I realize how foolish that is.

    Can you prove your emotions, no you can't. You can talk about how you feel all you want, you cannot prove it.
    Can you prove that I am not a Martian? No. Would it be reasonable to conclude that I am not a Martian? Yes. That's the difference.

    Why this overwelming need to have absolute proof of something before you can believe in it?
    I never claimed that I required absolute proof to believe in something.

    Seriously, now, why do you misinterpret people's arguments so much? Do you realize that that makes you look dishonest? Do you just not care?

    So in your world there is no faith in anything, no hope of anything, it's all cold, cut and dry.
    Not believing in God does not mean not having hope in anything. You really love lying, don't you?

    Sounds very boring to me.
    Yes, your lie sounds boring to you. Congratulations.

    And you know for sure there is no God, how do you know that for sure?
    Jesus Christ! The amount of straw men and logical fallacies you use is ridiculous. Please, take a philosophy class or something, because you really cannot have a serious conversation without misinterpreting the other side's argument.

    Not once did I claim to know for sure that God doesn't exist. I have chosen not to believe in God because of a lack of any kind of evidence at all.

    Remember you said no prayers have ever been answered, so that means you don't believe in God.
    I lack belief in God, yes, but not believing that prayers have been answered is not the same as not believing in God.

    You can't prove He doesn't exist so since you need proof..........................
    I can't prove that The Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, and I don't believe in it, either. I would bet you don't believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster, as well.

    Of course, you're probably thinking "Oh my God, The Flying Spaghetti Monster is stupid! Nobody would believe in that." You're missing the point again, because it's not about The Flying Spaghetti Monster. My point is that believing in something because there is no evidence that it DOESN'T exist is moronic, because there an infinite amount of things that you should believe in, then, following that reasoning.

    If there is no evidence that something exists, one can come to the reasonable conclusion that it doesn't exist. It doesn't take absolute certainty to not believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster, just like it doesn't take absolute certainty to not believe in God.

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    No, we are not. YOU are talking about absolutes. I am not talking about absolutes, because I realize how foolish that is.

    Can you prove that I am not a Martian? No. Would it be reasonable to conclude that I am not a Martian? Yes. That's the difference.

    I never claimed that I required absolute proof to believe in something.

    Seriously, now, why do you misinterpret people's arguments so much? Do you realize that that makes you look dishonest? Do you just not care?

    Not believing in God does not mean not having hope in anything. You really love lying, don't you?

    Yes, your lie sounds boring to you. Congratulations.

    Jesus Christ! The amount of straw men and logical fallacies you use is ridiculous. Please, take a philosophy class or something, because you really cannot have a serious conversation without misinterpreting the other side's argument.

    Not once did I claim to know for sure that God doesn't exist. I have chosen not to believe in God because of a lack of any kind of evidence at all.

    I lack belief in God, yes, but not believing that prayers have been answered is not the same as not believing in God.

    I can't prove that The Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, and I don't believe in it, either. I would bet you don't believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster, as well.

    Of course, you're probably thinking "Oh my God, The Flying Spaghetti Monster is stupid! Nobody would believe in that." You're missing the point again, because it's not about The Flying Spaghetti Monster. My point is that believing in something because there is no evidence that it DOESN'T exist is moronic, because there an infinite amount of things that you should believe in, then, following that reasoning.

    If there is no evidence that something exists, one can come to the reasonable conclusion that it doesn't exist. It doesn't take absolute certainty to not believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster, just like it doesn't take absolute certainty to not believe in God.
    As usual you can't conduct yourself like a mature adult, you..must...resort to calling me a liar.

    I can't deal with ya man, you are too immature to bother with. If you haven't figured out you are in a minority for a reason I can't help you and yes saying no prayers haven't been answered is saying you do not believe in God, you cannot have one without the other.

    As usual you were a huge waste of time....again.

    Dude, learn how to talk with grownups, trust me..."you are lying"...will not work. Now beat it!

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    I am calling you a liar because you are lying.

    Show me in any of my posts where I claimed that I needed absolute proof of God to believe in him.

    Show me where I claimed to know with certainty that God doesn't exist.

    Show me that atheists are incapable of having hope, like you claimed.

    When you misinterpret the other side's arguments, I'm going to call you out on it.

    You want to be mature and have a mature conversation, Avante? STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

    I didn't put words in your mouth. I addressed each of your points fairly. So, stop putting words in my mouth.

    It is nice to see you fake outrage to weasel out of an argument again.
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    I'm in a semi good mood I will extend the deadline to prove Darwin was correct and man evolved from Ape like creature to Sunday noon 23rd of September.

    Goodluck!

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