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    but teh 1%, willard, gecko gecko

    lmfao you whining ing knucklehead, we all know you make less than 35k per year drawing SS so you only pay 15% to romney's 20%

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    ... their overall average annual effective federal tax rate was 20.2%.
    Is that only income tax?

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    in before the multi-page "fair/not fair" argument...

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    So, where do you download these tax returns for perusal? Or we just go by what the campaign spokesperson said? crofl

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    Willard is a mormon, so he believes he can buy his way into heaven by following all the laws, paying taxes, and giving to charity. This shouldn't be a surprise that a guy who believes he will literally burn for eternity if he doesn't do good deeds would pay taxes and give away money to charity. He simply just isn't the big bad evil richer that guys like Boutons make him out to be.

    Paid higher taxes than Boutons, that made my day

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    So do any of you want the people who pay no income tax to pay income tax?

    It's been strongly implied that you do.
    Most of them yes. Below the poverty line of course not but part of the problem is that the Bush tax cuts made it a free for all for far too many people.

    The old adage is taxation without any representation. What we have now is the opposite. It hinders civic involvement. people feel like they are looking for the outside in and nonparticipatory enough as it is.

    And we need to at least attempt to be responsible. I imagine that around the 2020 when enough of the boomers are retirement age that sane tax levels will be restored.

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    Willard is a mormon, so he believes he can buy his way into heaven by following all the laws, paying taxes, and giving to charity. This shouldn't be a surprise that a guy who believes he will literally burn for eternity if he doesn't do good deeds would pay taxes and give away money to charity. He simply just isn't the big bad evil richer that guys like Boutons make him out to be.

    Paid higher taxes than Boutons, that made my day
    isn't that what christians believe too? Doesn't stop them from doing what they want.

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    christians believe that jesus died on the cross for your sins..mormons think that salvation comes through deeds and how much you give to the church.

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    I was just going by what he has repeatedly said and have not having ever met him or spoken to him I haven't presumed to actually know what he thinks.
    I think it's a bit disgenous to say that he wanted those people to rise up. Him saying that he could never get these people to accept responsbility doesn't sound very "helping".

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    Wait wait, I thought the highest tax rate was 35%? How is Romney paying 20%?

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    Nowhere does it say he will actually release all those tax returns - only that they will be releasing do ents about that 20 year period. He seems to be releasing summary type information for that time frame.

    As for a good or bad move- mostly bad to me. It reminds people just how much money he earns when he does not even work while he insults the working poor.
    Yup. He only released the 2011 return.

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    Wait wait, I thought the highest tax rate was 35%? How is Romney paying 20%?
    You probably pay what. 3%, tops?
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-21-2012 at 07:05 PM.

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    So, where do you download these tax returns for perusal? Or we just go by what the campaign spokesperson said? crofl

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    He only released 2011.

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    I think it's a bit disgenous to say that he wanted those people to rise up. Him saying that he could never get these people to accept responsbility doesn't sound very "helping".
    Honestly? I think he ad libbed and ed up. Remember there are two 47% figures...those that don't pay taxes and those that poll to vote for Obama.

    I think he just got on a roll and mentally flipped from the 47% that don't pay taxes to the 47% that he knew were committed to vote for Obama and totally ed up the transition.

    The guy is clearly not stupid. He's just not a very glib politician. I'm not gonna hate him for that.

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    Honestly? I think he ad libbed and ed up. Remember there are two 47% figures...those that don't pay taxes and those that poll to vote for Obama.

    I think he just got on a roll and mentally flipped from the 47% that don't pay taxes to the 47% that he knew were committed to vote for Obama and totally ed up the transition.

    The guy is clearly not stupid. He's just not a very glib politician. I'm not gonna hate him for that.
    I don't see that at all. He thinks he can't win over anyone who picked Obama in polls? He's basically conceding the election if that's what he meant.

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    dude's campaign is drowning and he'd grab every straw he can possibly reach for

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    Wait wait, I thought the highest tax rate was 35%? How is Romney paying 20%?
    he gets most incomes from dividends & investments which are taxed at lower rates imho

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    You probably pay what. 3%, tops?
    I got money back due to the child credit. But that didn't really answer my question, did it?

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    hey lngrr i'm not sure if you heard, but they are now saying that romney averaged 20% effective tax rate over the past 20 years aside from the 14.1% he paid last year, which is more than what Boutons paid. pass that on

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    I guess after a few years paying 25+%, he was like, "Wait a sec I'm rich, isn't there some loophole I can use? Why aren't my taxes as low as the local checkout clerk?"

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    FWIW, a defense of low capital gains percentage by Matt Yglesias...

    http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/moneyb...hould_be_.html

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    I'd say that romney is much more of an american than guys like boutons who criticize him, giving away almost half of his yearly salary to either taxes or charity was pretty classy

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    I'd say that romney is much more of an american than guys like boutons who criticize him, giving away almost half of his yearly salary to either taxes or charity was pretty classy
    M>S is joining his asshole partner T in stalking boutons.

    Gecko and his Queen Ann are classless, self-congratulating, preening assholes. Get back to us when what he gives is not tax deductible and is enough to really hurt his $250M fortunes.

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    FWIW, a defense of low capital gains percentage by Matt Yglesias...

    http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/moneyb...hould_be_.html
    yep, if i take my income after tax and use part of it to invest, taking on a lot of risk, my reward should be high. double taxation (technically triple taxation if you think about it. the corp is taxed, what's left over is paid out as dividends and taxed again, and you used income AFTER taxes to buy the stock in the first place) is a drag on commerce and like the article says, encourages people to consume now rather than invest into businesses etc.

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    M>S is joining his asshole partner T in stalking boutons.

    Gecko and his Queen Ann are classless, self-congratulating, preening assholes. Get back to us when what he gives is not tax deductible and is enough to really hurt his $250M fortunes.
    you mad that the guy is taxed at close to 50% including charities and still makes more in 1 year than you will in your life? maybe if you were as classy, responsible, and gifted as mitt you could make something of your life too.

    get off that man's nuts you jealous got. he gave up 50% of his income..what's next, you'll think that rich people should have 100% of their money confiscated and given to lazy welfare gots like you

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