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Really? Thats all you got?
Romney’s wife, Ann, was in attendance, and the candidate spoke of the concern he had for her when her plane had to make an emergency landing Friday en route to Santa Monica because of an electrical malfunction.
“I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were,” Romney said. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”
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Really? Thats all you got?
He should google some of this before he says it.
Why can't you open a window on an airplane?
It's not just the "sucking objects out"... the air density as al ude increases causes the well known Al ude sickness, which could end up in pulmonary or cerebral edema and can be fatal...
Add to that Hypoxia and Barotrauma... the comment was re ed at several different levels...
Was he serious or was that a tongue-in-cheek comment?
Regardless, Mitt is not a very bright guy. He's good at inheriting wealth and capitalizing off his father's business connections, but overall I don't think he's a very smart guy.
I have actually had pulmonary edema from al ude, and it takes multiple days to develop. If you're flying really high you'd just black out and die. HAPE and HACE would be worries if you, for instance, spent three nights in the plane flying at 8000+ feet with the windows open.
Plenty of oxygen to 10,000 feet. I've flown at 8k VFR with vents open from Texas to Colorado in a unpressurized cabin with no issues.
With a onboard fire pilot in charge first job is to get below 10K so you don't have to depend on emergency oxygen systems. You put that on her nose and push redline.
@ wiki answers. You should get out from in front of the computer more.
No it wasn't.
He was concerned and he is a layman on such matters.
Ignorant to the reasons, yes. Re ed, no.
Real malevolent the way liberals like you turn the focus on this rather than the aircraft's safety.
Door falls OFF private plane in flight and lands on golf course
Oh... My.... God...
You bring to us an argument calling Romney re ed, over his layman's lack of knowledge related to atmospheric physics, then don't call ignorance of the wiki answer's, answer?
Maybe you don't understand?
Personal anecdotes are cute, but there's a reason the FAA mandates cabin pressure to top off at 8,000 ft at the highest plane al ude. You can trigger Hypoxia as low as 5,000 ft. Over 10,000 ft you'll be dealing with physiological problems rather quickly...
Not to mention that the oxygen pressure (the amount of oxygen molecules) in the same air volume at 10,000 ft is about 1/3 of sea-level.
No .
I posted a quote. You're en led to qualify it as you see fit. Same with the wiki answer posted. lol your god.
What were you climbing?
Umm..no. Those consultants and venture capital guys are some of the sharpest guys around. If it were that easy, everyone would be a millionaire. Mitt just made a dumb statement in an area that he doesn't know anything about, he didn't go to school for physics.
Just the third night out a little under 11,000 feet while doing a backpacking trip. I never have had any issues with those kind of al udes other than that one time though (I was sick a couple of weeks before, so I think that may have predisposed me to getting it that trip). The one you can get the first day is AMS, which is no big deal and usually clears up if you don't try to ascend while suffering symptoms. HAPE and HACE you have no other choice than to get to lower al ude quickly though.
True.
If at 5k, then why set to 8k?
No.
At 5,000 ft it's 83% of sea level.
At 8,000 ft it's 78% of sea level.
At 10,000 ft it's 69% of sea level.
Where did you get the 1/3rd from anyway?
What was your motive for posting such an article, if it wasn't malevolence?
physics
He should try not saying anything of a technical nature tbh.
That doesn't sound right. I know the concentration of oxygen molecules vs nitrogen molecules vs others in a volume of air is constant up to something like 120,000 feet, and the air pressure is something like 59% of sea level at 12,000 feet, which would mean you'd have 59% of O2 to breathe at 12000 vs 0 feet. 1/3rd would be something like high up on Everest.
What is your take, or is that your best comment of the topic?
That's all I've got boss.
Oh look it's mr scientist elitist rearing his ugly head. If it's so easy then why don't you just go take Mitt's spot at Bain then? You'd make a lot more than whatever the the IAEA is paying you.
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