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    Look at the red text to the right of the entry biox, and below the units.

    "At 10000 feet (3048m), the barometric pressure is 71kPa (534mmHg). " for 10,000 ft.

    "At 0 feet (0m), the barometric pressure is 101kPa (760mmHg). " for 0 ft.

    Now... partial atmospheric pressure is 21% of each. 14.9 for 10,000 ft (between 14 and 15 on the graph) and 21.2 for 0 ft.

    14.9/21.2 = 70%. It is more than 2/3rds the partial pressure. not 1/3rd.

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    I'm not using atmospheric values. How many times I have to repeat that?

    I'm stating pressure IN A GIVEN VOLUME OF THE ARTERIES.
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-26-2012 at 08:06 AM.

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    So what was wrong with my statement? crofl

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    So what was wrong with my statement? crofl
    Not to mention that the oxygen pressure (the amount of oxygen molecules) in the same air volume at 10,000 ft is about 1/3 of sea-level.
    It's simple.

    At 0 ft, your partial pressure is 13.3 kPa by your calculator. It is 7.2 kPa at 10000 ft. That is 54%, not 33%.

    Again you are wrong, like you always are against me.

    Now 7.2 kPa is about 1/3rd of the partial pressure of the atmosphere, but you are now not using comparable measurements. Really now... Atmospheric partial pressure vs. arteries partial pressure?

    When will you admit you are wrong?
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-26-2012 at 08:06 AM.

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    You still don't get it. Likely because you're stupid.

    Time to sleep for me. PM me if you ever figure it out.

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    You still don't get it. Likely because you're stupid.

    Time to sleep for me. PM me if you ever figure it out.
    I'm sure that everyone following our exchange agrees with me rather than you.

    Goodbye. You are such a sore loser.

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    Time to install roll up windows on those 767 tbh...

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    I'm sure that everyone following our exchange agrees with me rather than you.

    Goodbye. You are such a sore loser.
    You sound pretty maaaaad... lol

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    You sound pretty maaaaad... lol
    No, just frustrated.

    I thought you were smarter.

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    Okay

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    What do you think of this?


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    Food for thought ElNono...

    Both Manny and Agloco have visited this thread. They always oppose me when they think they can. Why have they not supported your posts, or torn apart mine?

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    What do you think of this?

    A calculator to compute the barometric pressure...nothing wrong with it

    Food for thought ElNono...

    Both Manny and Agloco have visited this thread. They always oppose me when they think they can. Why have they not supported your posts, or torn apart mine?
    Who cares? I'm not here seeking validation. And FWIW, Agioco did indeed support(?) my post right after I posted it... Food for thought indeed.

    Perhaps the numbers are irrelevant in light of the actual topic: a completely re ed comment.

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    ^ A calculator to compute the barometric pressure...nothing wrong with it
    You still don't understand?

    How do I dumb it down any farther.

    Your 7.2 kPa number you rely on is the arterial partial pressure. Gas exchange is already in place, and mixed with gasses not fully expelled. The actual O2 partial pressure in the atmosphere is 14.9 kPa at 10,000 ft.
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-26-2012 at 08:08 AM.

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    Who cares? I'm not here seeking validation. And FWIW, Agioco did indeed support(?) my post right after I posted it... Food for thought indeed.
    No he didn't. Not the pressures we are debating on.

    He initially had a single word to say, laughing at "physics." After I made a post asking if that's all he had, he edited his statement adding this:
    He should try not saying anything of a technical nature tbh.
    Not specifying who, but I assume Romney. Not me or Mavs.

    Where did he support you on our current disagreement?

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    I still don't get it. Likely because I'm stupid.

    Time to sleep for me. I'll PM you if I ever figure it out.

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    LOL you're a layman and that doesn't stop you from thinking you're an expert in a lot of things.
    Some of us laymen know how to find the right answers. It doesn't take college indoctrination to understand how to research.

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    LOL you're a layman and that doesn't stop you from thinking you're an expert in a lot of things.
    Not saying I am an expert, but partial pressures are very simple entry level physics and chemistry.

    Please, by all means, tell me what I am wrong about in regards to my disagreement with ElNono.

    I'm waiting, or are you just an ankle biter?

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    Not saying I am an expert, but partial pressures are very simple entry level physics and chemistry.
    hey Mitt was only recalling his past experiences..because on planet Kolob they can let the windows down @ 40 thousand feet going 500 miles / hr...

    Seriously I think Romney is entering orbit around planet zainey... he's been kidnapped and they've replaced him with Sarah Palin in one of those Hollywood rubber disguises.

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    Ehh Mitt was pretty successful there, and at a pretty young age. You can call him a lot of things..but people don't get that rich by chance. Stupid isn't one of those things you can say about him. Not very well spoken sometimes, maybe.

    once again there you go popping off at the mouth and don't know what the you are talking about...this cracker has been given a leg up in every area even when it came to the offshoot of Bain Capital...


    From "The Real Romney:"

    He saw the opportunity, of course, but he also saw risks. First, he felt comfortable in his life. He already had a great job and had five young sons at home. Second, he and the partners in the new firm would be expected to contribute significantly to the investment fund, and thus, if deals went south, they could lose their own money.

    Romney explained to Bain that he didn't want to risk his position, earnings, and reputation on an experiment. He found the offer appealing but didn't want to make the decision in a 'light or flippant manner.' So Bain sweetened the pot. He guaranteed that if the experiment failed, Romney would get his old job and salary back, plus any raises he would have earned during his absence. Still, Romney worried about the impact on his reputation if he proved unable to do the job. Again the pot was sweetened. Bain promised that, if necessary, he would craft a cover story saying that Romney's return to Bain & Company was needed because of his value as a consultant. 'So,' Bain explained, 'there was no professional or financial risk.' This time Romney said yes.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...p_ref=politics

    additionally


    Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1710133.html

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    Personal anecdotes are cute, but there's a reason the FAA mandates cabin pressure to top off at 8,000 ft at the highest plane al ude. You can trigger Hypoxia as low as 5,000 ft. Over 10,000 ft you'll be dealing with physiological problems rather quickly...

    Not to mention that the oxygen pressure (the amount of oxygen molecules) in the same air volume at 10,000 ft is about 1/3 of sea-level.


    ing tool.

    So if it's so ing dangerous why isn't snow skiing illegal? Hundreds of thousands of skiers venture into your "death zone" every year and perform strenuous exercise and escape unscathed.

    Anecdote, my ass.

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    ing tool.

    So if it's so ing dangerous why isn't snow skiing illegal? Hundreds of thousands of skiers venture into your "death zone" every year and perform strenuous exercise and escape unscathed.

    Anecdote, my ass.
    Yes... A tool...

    The 1/3rd sea level is what I saw as totally bogus when I read it.

    I know better, yet ElNono hold on to that number for dear life. He acts as if he acknowledged an error, that he will die.

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    ing tool totally dismisses real life if it disagrees with what he reads in wikipedia.

    I used to do two week trips to Taos and never leave the resort. The freaking BASE AREA is at 9,207 feet. The Kachina lift goes to 11,819 feet. The house I rented was ski in/out about 400 feet above the base area. Nobody ever got sick or had any health issues and the thousands of other people skiing there seemed to be fine too...

    http://www.skitaos.org/content/stats

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    Managed to ski A Basin several times without dying too...

    Vertical rise: 2,270 feet
    Base elevation: 10,780 feet
    Summit elevation: 13,050 feet

    http://www.arapahoebasin.com/abasin/...act-sheet.aspx

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