Page 5 of 9 FirstFirst 123456789 LastLast
Results 101 to 125 of 210
  1. #101
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117

    additionally


    Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1710133.html
    Is the the loony lefts answer to what the right will be saying again about Obama's associations with Ares are Wright?

  2. #102
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    Also cheated death and put my kids lives at risk for years at Crested Butte...had a condo there while my kids were growing up...we would venture into the death zone at least two weeks a year and usually three....

    Summit Elevation 12,162 ft / 3,707 m
    Base Elevation 9,375 ft / 2,856 m

    http://www.skicb.com/cbmr/info/press-facts.aspx

    And amazingly enough, before they put the high lift in for the x-games we would ride the silver queen lift and then take our skis off and hike another 500 feet or so up through the super death zone to ski the cliffs and the headwall. Although I survived some pretty spectacular crashes it never occurred to me that it was the al ude I should be terrified of...

    ElNono...wikipedia...pffft
    Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 09-25-2012 at 08:44 AM.

  3. #103
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    ing tool totally dismisses real life if it disagrees with what he reads in wikipedia.

    I used to do two week trips to Taos and never leave the resort. The freaking BASE AREA is at 9,207 feet. The Kachina lift goes to 11,819 feet. The house I rented was ski in/out about 400 feet above the base area. Nobody ever got sick or had any health issues and the thousands of other people skiing there seemed to be fine too...

    http://www.skitaos.org/content/stats
    To be fair I guarantee that people who are doing what you are getting al ude sickness. You may not be hearing about it and the vast majority of people may be fine but there are definitely a sizeable portion of people who are getting it.

    That being said I don't think its particularly dangerous to go skiing. (for air reasons)

  4. #104
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    I think ElNono gets all his information from liberal fear mongering sites.

  5. #105
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    From FAA flight training manual:

    By definition, electrical fires originate from electrical components. Often, we can detect an electrical fire before it really gets going. The first clue might be an over-voltage warning light, a higher than normal electrical load, or a popped circuit breaker. The acrid smell of hot insulation or visible white smoke also are common indicators — but don't be fooled. In one incident, white smoke filled the cabin of a Piper Arrow, leading the pilot and instructor to think they had an electrical fire. In reality, they had a fuel fire in the engine compartment, which had begun to melt the ducts that supply heated air to the cabin.

    Once ignited, electrical fires burn just like any fire. One difference is that the heat from the energized electrical wiring or component that caused the fire might sustain it. For this reason, your first step if you have an electrical fire is to cut the power by turning off the master switch. By isolating the battery and alternator/generator, we remove the ignition source, and the fire should extinguish.

    If the fire is already burning hot, cutting the power won't be enough. You'll need to use an extinguisher to squelch the flames — a tricky proposition if the fire is behind the instrument panel. Once the fire is out, some checklists suggest that we try to restore power and isolate its cause.

    We can shut off all our electrical components, turn the master switch back on, and start turning on essential components one at a time. With any luck, a non-critical item will be the culprit, and we can continue on to land at the nearest airport.

    Because reenergizing the circuits might recreate the situation that caused the fire in the first place, finding its cause might not be the best option. Another school of thought says we should communicate before cutting the power — if we have time — then refrain from reenergizing the system and possibly restarting the fire. This might mean a no-flap landing or lowering the landing gear manually, but it sure beats incapacitation and an early grave. It's a difficult decision to make, especially if we're on a night flight or in instrument conditions. A good flashlight (or three or four), a handheld transceiver, and a handheld GPS navigation receiver can come in real handy if a fire puts the electrical system out of commission.

    If we have time to communicate before powering down the electrical system, we have three options. Call ATC, broadcast in the blind on the emergency frequency of 121.5 MHz, or tune the 7700 emergency code into the transponder and IDENT. Taking a few seconds to do any of these things before we shut down the electrical system might alert someone to the problem and bring fire/rescue services to the scene as we head for an airport. Finally, if it has a manual switch, we can activate the emergency locator transmitter. The beauty of the ELT is that it has its own power supply and will bring help to the scene of a forced landing should that become necessary.

    Managing the smoke is another important part of dealing with an electrical fire. Here, too, you'll find different schools of thought. To continue breathing and to see well enough to maintain control of the aircraft, we might have to open the vents or vent window. Opening the pilot's vent window could be a mistake because it might pull the smoke right in front of the pilot, obscuring his vision.

    Opening another vent, if available, or cracking a door might be a better option. Venting the smoke may improve breathing and vision — but it can also fan the fire's flames with fresh air. If this happens we have no option but to close the vents.

    Regardless of how we handle the electrical system following a fire, continuing the flight any longer than is necessary is out of the question. An in-flight fire is extremely dangerous, and you must land immediately — at the nearest airport, if possible — but possibly at an appropriate off-airport site.

  6. #106
    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    25,321
    looks like humor has left the building.

  7. #107
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473


    ing tool.

    So if it's so ing dangerous why isn't snow skiing illegal? Hundreds of thousands of skiers venture into your "death zone" every year and perform strenuous exercise and escape unscathed.

    Anecdote, my ass.
    you're not discussing with me the effects of high al ude on humans.

    People drink alcohol and wreck their bodies all the time too... why isn't alcohol illegal? lol strawmen

  8. #108
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473
    Managed to ski A Basin several times without dying too...

    Vertical rise: 2,270 feet
    Base elevation: 10,780 feet
    Summit elevation: 13,050 feet

    http://www.arapahoebasin.com/abasin/...act-sheet.aspx
    Also cheated death and put my kids lives at risk for years at Crested Butte...had a condo there while my kids were growing up...we would venture into the death zone at least two weeks a year and usually three....

    Summit Elevation 12,162 ft / 3,707 m
    Base Elevation 9,375 ft / 2,856 m

    http://www.skicb.com/cbmr/info/press-facts.aspx

    And amazingly enough, before they put the high lift in for the x-games we would ride the silver queen lift and then take our skis off and hike another 500 feet or so up through the super death zone to ski the cliffs and the headwall. Although I survived some pretty spectacular crashes it never occurred to me that it was the al ude I should be terrified of...

    ElNono...wikipedia...pffft
    crofl the anecdotes keep on coming!

  9. #109
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473
    From FAA flight training manual:

    Managing the smoke is another important part of dealing with an electrical fire. Here, too, you'll find different schools of thought. To continue breathing and to see well enough to maintain control of the aircraft, we might have to open the vents or vent window. Opening the pilot's vent window could be a mistake because it might pull the smoke right in front of the pilot, obscuring his vision.

    Opening another vent, if available, or cracking a door might be a better option. Venting the smoke may improve breathing and vision — but it can also fan the fire's flames with fresh air. If this happens we have no option but to close the vents.
    Let's roll up those windows and fan those flames! That sounds like a great idea! Didn't you do that in one of your anecdotes?

  10. #110
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473
    @ "I've been at 10,000ft and nothing happened to me, therefore nothing happens to anybody else"

  11. #111
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    @ ElNono.

    Gotta hand it to him. He's a stubborn little .

  12. #112
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473
    Gotta hand it to him. He's a stubborn little .
    Cosmic Anecdote... "but science is overrated. I've skied at 12,000 ft therefore al ude sickness is fantasy"...

  13. #113
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    It's not just me, dumbass.


  14. #114
    Veteran cantthinkofanything's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Post Count
    14,938
    Who cares what Mitt said about this. I bet until most of you looked it up, you thought the only reason not to open an airplane window was because, "IT SUCKS EVERYONE OUT THE PLANE !"

  15. #115
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    I used to have a cabin outside of Pitkin CO....about 11,500 ft. I was always sick as a dog for the first few days after I got there.

  16. #116
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136



  17. #117
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    I used to have a cabin outside of Pitkin CO....about 11,500 ft. I was always sick as a dog for the first few days after I got there.


    You ventured into the DEATH ZONE and lived?????

  18. #118
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473
    LOL this as DEATH ZONE...

    If you're Cosmic Anecdote, when the plane drops down the oxygen masks in an depressurization event, you look around and call them wimps!

  19. #119
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    153,473
    And lol @ pictures... irrelevant unless you're saying we should keep all planes flying at 10,000 ft...

  20. #120
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    LOL this as DEATH ZONE...

    If you're Cosmic Anecdote, when the plane drops down the oxygen masks in an depressurization event, you look around and call them wimps!
    Keep beatin that strawman dumbass.

    With a onboard fire pilot in charge first job is to get below 10K so you don't have to depend on emergency oxygen systems. You put that on her nose and push redline.
    I realize english is your second language but you should work on your reading comprehension.

    With an onboard fire you get that down and on the ground as fast as you can.

  21. #121
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    Keep beatin that strawman dumbass.



    I realize english is your second language but you should work on your reading comprehension.

    With an onboard fire you get that down and on the ground as fast as you can.


    You ventured into the DEATH ZONE and lived?????
    And that, somehow, isn't a strawman?

  22. #122
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    And that, somehow, isn't a strawman?
    Not when he makes the blanket statement

    Over 10,000 ft you'll be dealing with physiological problems rather quickly...

  23. #123
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    97,881
    I used to have a cabin outside of Pitkin CO....about 11,500 ft. I was always sick as a dog for the first few days after I got there.
    Damn, you used to be a richer, TB? gfy

  24. #124
    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    25,321
    mitts just talking about opening windows.

    probably shouldn't let him sit next to the exit.

    problem solved.

  25. #125
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    Damn, you used to be a richer, TB? gfy
    Married into that cabin. Divorced myself right the out of it.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •