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And you didn't even touch the fact that we're already funding a federal agency to basically do exactly the same job...
Channeling Johnny now?
And you didn't even touch the fact that we're already funding a federal agency to basically do exactly the same job...
Thanks! Although according to the law, it seems that one might be liable if they don't ask for an ID.
So, if you don't ask for identification, or you ask and they don't produce it, then this law seems to say you could reasonably assume they were an illegal immigrant.10) LAWFUL PRESENCE or LAWFULLY PRESENT. A person
20 is presumed to have lawful presence and not to be an alien who
21 is unlawfully present in the United States or in the State of
22 Alabama. A person shall be regarded as an alien unlawfully
23 present in the United States if the person's unlawful
24 immigration status has been verified by the federal government
25 pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1373(c) or if the person does not
26 possess proof of self-identification in any of the following
27 forms:
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1 a. A valid, unexpired Alabama driver's license.
2 b. A valid, unexpired Alabama nondriver
3 identification card.
4 c. A valid tribal enrollment card or other form of
5 tribal identification.
6 d. Any valid United States federal, state, or local
7 government issued identification do ent if issued by an
8 en y that requires proof of lawful presence in the United
9 States before issuance.
10 e. A foreign passport with a United States Visa.
11 f. A foreign passport issued by a visa waiver
12 country with the corresponding entry stamp and duration of
13 stay annotation or an I-94W form.
That's interesting... If you're a brown citizen and lost your wallet, go to jail...
I expect the DoJ to file a stay on this thing much like they did in Arizona...
whites are finally starting to wake up
Please tell me you're not so stupid as to realize that "migrant worker" is just the old school term for illegal alien. Not too many Dietrichs, DuCheins, O'Neals, McDougalls or Joneses pulling potatoes out of the ground.
Well, you obviously don't have the answers since you don't know migrant labor from Mexico was legal at one point. I think it still is, but I'm not sure.
does Alabama even have illegal immigrants?
USA has long history of brutally exploiting poor Central/South Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_Program
http://www.farmworkers.org/benglish.html
Let's say I give a ride to some canadien who has overstayed his visa, will I be arrested for recklessly disregarding his immigration status? What if he speaks english and has fair skin? Does that absolve me?
How will this law work short of profiling people based on skin color?
Primarily at the employer level. With mandatory requirements of checking for a legal system, they will go look for work elsewhere, or take a chance if going to jail for ID theft.
Now I will say the law should not pass as written, because it can be twisted in ways not needed, and allow personal bias to take a role.
No, it isn't and wasn't. People were just smarter then, and didn't care that they were filling jobs no one else wanted. It's almost impossible to get a visa for any kind of work in this country. They let a few thousand IT workers in to keep the wages down. If you compare the legal visa workers to the labor pool in this country, it would be a thimble full in an ocean.
Yes it was. Boutons linked information of the Bracero Program, though it ended far earlier than I thought. I was under the impression that program existed into the 80's at least, but i was wrong. Maybe something else took its place.
Being a former H1B visa guy, I can tell you it was a and a half to obtain it, and to actually keep it. Maybe because I didn't work for Microsoft or one of the big IT companies.
I don't think there's been a temporary, unqualified worker type of program for a long, long time.
Yeah, Coyotes.
Nature abhores a vacuum, and no one else wanted to do the work. Judging by GA, they still don't.
http://www.cato.org/publications/pol...migration-lawsArizona's immigration laws have hurt its economy. The 2007 Legal Arizona Workers Act (LAWA) attempts to force unauthorized immigrants out of the workplace with employee regulations and employer sanctions. The 2010 Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act (SB 1070) complements LAWA by granting local police new legal tools to enforce Arizona's immigration laws outside of the workplace.
LAWA's mandate of E-Verify, a federal electronic employee verification system, and the "business death penalty," which revokes business licenses for businesses that repeatedly hire unauthorized workers, raise the costs of hiring all employees and create regulatory uncertainty for employers. As a result, employers scale back legal hiring, move out of Arizona, or turn to the informal economy to eliminate a paper trail. SB 1070's enforcement policies outside of the workplace drove many unauthorized immigrants from the state, lowered the state's population, hobbled the labor market, accelerated residential property price declines, and exacerbated the Great Recession in Arizona.
LAWA, E-Verify, and the business death penalty are cons utional and are unlikely to be overturned; however the Supreme Court recently found that some sections of SB 1070 were preempted by federal power. States now considering Arizona-style immigration laws should realize that the laws also cause significant economic harm. States bear much of the cost of unauthorized immigration, but in Arizona's rush to find a state solution, it damaged its own economy.
shut the up be@ner lover
Since Hispanics, even illegal ones, assimilate more quickly, learn English more readily, and overall are more value-added than just about any other previous mass immigration group, I have struggled to come up with reasons why working-class Anglos hate them so much. This hatred has only accelerated over the past 30 years.
I think I have stumbled upon it.
Since about 1975, American-born Hispanics have been undergoing a Flynn effect, in which the average IQ of the group rises in response to increases in human development. When this happens to a minority in a developed country, the typical rise is about 15 points. So far, average U.S.-born Hispanic IQ has risen from 85 to 97. The response signal appears proportional. Basically they're on their way to 100 -- the same as Anglos.
Anglo society has stratified into a high-capability, upwardly-mobile class and a stagnant, low-capability class that is falling increasingly into poverty. The average IQ's of the group are about 108 and 90, respectively. The upper class occupies the white collar and professional jobs. The lower class competes for blue collar jobs.
No such stratification has occurred in the Hispanic community, and Hispanics remain underrepresented in the white collar and professional jobs. More high-capability Hispanics are left to compete for blue-collar jobs.
Therefore, the average IQ of a Hispanic seeking a blue-collar job is about 97 while the average IQ of an Anglo seeking the same job is 90.
I hypothesize that the underlying reason for working-class Anglo hostility against Hispanics is not because of illegals dragging the country down, but rather because of native-born Hispanics outcompeting the Anglos.
Discuss.
I hypothesize that it's because they ing up.
Ha, that's just it be@ners don't assimilate at all. They run together in packs and obnoxiously speak spanish in front of white people just to piss them off..they smell like and half of them are nothin but in drunk ass win-O's. They don't respect the laws of the land, come here in mass working under the table and not paying taxes in many cases and bleed social services dry. Don't forget about the anchor babies, and the once peaceful quiet neighborhoods that have to listen to loud ass mariachi music 24/7. I've never worked a blue collar job in my life aside from putting myself through college and I still hate be@ners simply for what they are, your theory is false.
I thought the part on businesses moving out was interesting. In a way it's like outsourcing, companies will always go for the cheaper alternative to improve the bottom line. Another instance of prioritizing business over country.
In my experience, as the Industrious and Noble Latino American displaces the dissolute white-trash cousin- ing, face-scab-picking, toothless cracker, dilapidated houses are restored, crumbling streets are repaired, overgrown vegetation is trimmed into attractive landscaping, crystal meth labs are replaced with cottage agriculture, depressing gray and white buildings are revitalized with color, the air is filled with the heavenly sounds of the trumpet and accordion, preservative-laden processed meats are replaced with innovative and ingenious culinary uses of bovine anatomy, and sickly skin tones are replaced with robust and healthy tones of olive and bronze. Dumb hick twang is replaced with a lilt and a syllable-timed prosody with superfluous sybillant vocalizations done away. Streets are filled with lots and lots, and lots, and lots and lots of children.
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