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    Well maybe your doing a word play on me. You want to harp on if I said that Scientist said etc that ....... the bottom line is if there were only "two" elements how did we get 105 we have today?


    If you have 2 dollars in your wallet and the next time you open your wallet you have 105 dollars you have to explain how it got there.

    You can try and figure out who or what put it there and you may have to realize it was a person maybe your father your creator it was his sperm.

    Actually he could have digested Ecstasy the night before in your case but that is another topic.

    Or you you can take the lazy low IQ Darwin way out of figuring it out and just say your 2 dollars must have evolved into 105 dollars.




    What explanation sounds more likely?

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    those who get into long ass winded debates with mouse/cosmored are worse than they are.

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    those who get into long ass winded debates with mouse/cosmored are worse than they are.
    what does that say about the ones who quote them?

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    Well maybe your doing a word play on me. You want to harp on if I said that Scientist said etc that ....... the bottom line is if there were only "two" elements how did we get 105 we have today?


    If you have 2 dollars in your wallet and the next time you open your wallet you have 105 dollars you have to explain how it got there.

    You can try and figure out who or what put it there and you may have to realize it was a person maybe your father your creator it was his sperm.

    Actually he could have digested Ecstasy the night before in your case but that is another topic.

    Or you you can take the lazy low IQ Darwin way out of figuring it out and just say your 2 dollars must have evolved into 105 dollars.




    What explanation sounds more likely?



    As I stated earlier:

    smh....this is going to take a while......

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    The live debate topic is open....

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    As I keep saying, you are not intelligent enough to realize how badly you understand the topic.

    What is the scientific explanation for elements today that are heavier than helium, mouse? In your own words.


    Well maybe your doing a word play on me. You want to harp on if I said that Scientist said etc that ....... the bottom line is if there were only "two" elements how did we get 105 we have today?


    If you have 2 dollars in your wallet and the next time you open your wallet you have 105 dollars you have to explain how it got there.
    So, you have no idea what science has determined is the most likely explanion for heavy elements.

    "Science just says they went from two elements to 105 elements".

    I wasn't defending anything that is claimed.

    I was simply asking you to demonstrate as clearly as possible what your understanding of the topic is.

    You have done so, and the answer to "how much does mouse know about what sceintists claim heavy elements are formed?" is:

    Nothing.

    Unless, of course you can be more specific, again, in your own words.

    Do you actually understand how these elements are formed?

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    Well maybe your doing a word play on me. You want to harp on if I said that Scientist said etc that ....... the bottom line is if there were only "two" elements how did we get 105 we have today?


    If you have 2 dollars in your wallet and the next time you open your wallet you have 105 dollars you have to explain how it got there.

    You can try and figure out who or what put it there and you may have to realize it was a person maybe your father your creator it was his sperm.

    Actually he could have digested Ecstasy the night before in your case but that is another topic.

    Or you you can take the lazy low IQ Darwin way out of figuring it out and just say your 2 dollars must have evolved into 105 dollars.

    What explanation sounds more likely?


    Really, "Darwin said that two elements just evolved into 105?"

    That may be the single dumbest thing you have said, for oooh so many reasons.

    Please elaborate. what is the "Darwin way" of getting to more than two elements?

    Be specific.

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    More evidence of evolution in action:

    http://www.livescience.com/9578-comm...blue-eyes.html

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    As I keep saying, you are not intelligent enough to realize how badly you understand the topic.

    What is the scientific explanation for elements today that are heavier than helium, mouse? In your own words.




    So, you have no idea what science has determined is the most likely explanion for heavy elements.

    "Science just says they went from two elements to 105 elements".

    I wasn't defending anything that is claimed.

    I was simply asking you to demonstrate as clearly as possible what your understanding of the topic is.

    You have done so, and the answer to "how much does mouse know about what sceintists claim heavy elements are formed?" is:

    Nothing.

    Unless, of course you can be more specific, again, in your own words.

    Do you actually understand how these elements are formed?
    I don't have to know how they formed I am not a chemist. My point was if you have only "two" elements at the start of the "universe" where did the other 103 come from? This is a subject many Scientist avoid since they really have no expatiation other than "Evolution"



    Really, "Darwin said that two elements just evolved into 105?"

    That may be the single dumbest thing you have said, for oooh so many reasons.

    Please elaborate. what is the "Darwin way" of getting to more than two elements?

    Be specific.





    Let me try another scenario... I go to an isolated Island that has no fruit I give the natives one orange and one pear I come back 50 years later and they now have Apples,peaches,and plumbs.
    Is it safe to ask them where did they get "5" different fruits when they only had "2" different fruits?

    Are they going to say the Fruits evolved?
    Last edited by mouse; 09-27-2012 at 07:57 AM.

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    This is a subject many Scientist avoid since they really have no expatiation other than "Evolution"
    How would you know? You don't even know the scientific explanation for why elements form?



    Here you go, mouse. Watch this.

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    The blue eyes is considered a "mutation" don't get confused and call it evolution. Her eyes didn't change into eyes of a fish.
    And even so its evolving from within the same species micro evolution that is not "macro" evolution that you need to go from ape to man.

    That is a common mistake with young poorly educated students of today that think Mutations is proof of evolution.

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    How would you know? You don't even know the scientific explanation for why elements form?
    I said I am not a chemist. I don't have to know. My point was Scientist avoid debating this subject. They don't explain how all the elements came about when there was only "Helium" and "Nitrogen"

    The reading level in this form is decreasing by the hour.

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    There's an explanation in the video I posted, idiot.

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    I like mouse's position.

    "I don't know what scientists say about how elements form, but I somehow know that they don't bother explaining how they form, even though I haven't actually looked for any explanations."

    And why would scientists even debate the subject with you (or anybody, for that matter)? Is there element denial, too? Are scientists sinisterly lying about how elements form, and if so, why?

    What exactly is your argument?

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    I like mouse's position.

    "I don't know what scientists say about how elements form, but I somehow know that they don't bother explaining how they form, even though I haven't actually looked for any explanations."

    And why would scientists even debate the subject with you (or anybody, for that matter)? Is there element denial, too? Are scientists sinisterly lying about how elements form, and if so, why?

    What exactly is your argument?
    I take it the Orange and the Pear scenario went over your head.

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    I take it that you are still too lazy and dishonest to watch a five minute video.

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    I don't have to know how they formed I am not a chemist. My point was if you have only "two" elements at the start of the "universe" where did the other 103 come from? This is a subject many Scientist avoid since they really have no expatiation other than "Evolution"
    Look up the word Fusion.

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    Do you few who are still going back and forth with Mouse actually believe he's being sincere about anything he's saying? If he were that stupid, he couldn't turn on his computer because he wouldn't believe it exists.

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    I just had to comment on his moronic, easily disproven claim that scientists don't explain how elements form.

    But like I posted before, it's a combination of stupidity and dishonesty. He is attacking science to make himself seem smarter than he is, and he is making dishonest claims because his position is inherently weak.

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    I just had to comment on his moronic, easily disproven claim that scientists don't explain how elements form.

    But like I posted before, it's a combination of stupidity and dishonesty. He is attacking science to make himself seem smarter than he is, and he is making dishonest claims because his position is inherently weak.
    or he is just stupid

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    My point was if you have only "two" elements at the start of the "universe" where did the other 103 come from? This is a subject many Scientist avoid since they really have no expatiation other than "Evolution"


    "chemist".... "evolution"

    Seriously... that is sigworthy ignorance right there.

    It proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt that you neither understand evolution, nor physics.

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    That is a common mistake with young poorly educated students of today that think Mutations is proof of evolution.
    If you actually understood the theory of evolution, you would know that mutations are used as part of the body of proof.

    Evolutionary theory is used to explain why some mutations are far more common than others, and is very good at predicting all sorts of things about mutations.

    BUT

    You don't understand the theory of evolution, so you don't know why, and I'm not explaining it to you.

    Waste.
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    time.

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    Obviously ..OBVIOUSLY..I'm not talking about someone knowing their feelings. I'm talking about trying to convey your emotions to someone else and proving them. How do they know you aren't lying? They don't!

    There are no signs of God? Are you serious? Do you honestly believe He hasn't answered prayers? I had a prayer answered myself.

    Doesn't it bug you living in a world where nobody really buys into your...bah humbugging? All those churches, all those Christians, Catholics, Muslims, Buddists etc etc. When does it hit you that just maybe people prefer a God in their life? What you play totally sucks.
    If God answers prayers and heals people, why doe he hate amputees so much?

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    If you actually understood the theory of evolution, you would know that mutations are used as part of the body of proof.

    Evolutionary theory is used to explain why some mutations are far more common than others, and is very good at predicting all sorts of things about mutations.

    BUT

    You don't understand the theory of evolution, so you don't know why, and I'm not explaining it to you

    Waste.
    of.
    time.


    Sorry you feel that way good luck in future debates.


    Actually your way off base Darwin said Evolution is a result of a speces losing it's poor qualities and evolving into something better evolution teaches us the strong survive and man didn't need a tail anymore so evolution is the byproduct of natural selection.

    A "mutation" is the exact opposite it's an abomination of bad DNA

    If mutation was part of evolution where are all the two headed monkey men fossils?

    Scientist place fruit flies in a microwave and when the offspring are born with extra wings they say the fly is evolving using mutilation as proof when the truth is it's just a deformed fly.


    But I wouldn't expect the little brains in here to understand that.

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    Mouse, why did you completely ignore my posts about elements?

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