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  1. #26
    Purple and Bold! whitemamba's Avatar
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    sounds like he is speaking the truth tbh..

  2. #27
    Rugged like Rwanda SpursNextRomanEmpire's Avatar
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    lol kobespeak

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    He realized that when he single handedly blew 2 leads vs OKC in the playoffs

    Kobe

    Hero mode

    tries hard to be like Mike

    but it always backfires

    Chucking Scottie Pippen

    cant even play D like Scottie

    Kobie

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    IMO, Kobe taking too many shots is kinda the norm, so I'm not sure it's newsworthy....

    Plus Dwight has more important things to be concerned about, tbh. If he's paying hush money to hoes he gotta be extra careful because he now has a teammate who is a known snitch...

  5. #30
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    I think this is just a case of a little punctuation taking his comments out of their context. I read it as:

    "I don't want to get into the, 'Well, we share; No, it's my team.'"

    It's like one of those "this/that" internalized arguments in his quote within a quote. He's basically saying he doesn't want to get into the whole "whose team is it?" debate, not outright saying it his team. Things sometimes don't read (or aren't written) the same way they are spoken.

  6. #31
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    After all these years, I am surprised that you guys still don't understand that Kobe is a marketing genius, and this latest stunt is simply, another move.

    It's just human nature that if you hear something being repeated enough times, it becomes true. That is why propaganda works. Granted, propaganda doesn't work with the well-informed, but we are talking about the general population who doesn't really watch and study the game (that is to say basketball junkies/nerds).


    Kobe does things to promote himself, and he is very successful at it. Look at his popularity in Asia, a place where you guys have continuously bashed at lacking basketball knowledge, and consume merchandise blindly.

    Let's track the history of Kobe's marketing genius:

    In the late 90's, when Kobe was a young buck, he wasn't all that great. He lacked mid-range jumper, chucks too much, was OK on defense. But what he does have though is great athleticism and ability to copy Jordan down to the most minute details. He would smartly market himself as the next Jordan.

    In the early 00s, his game improved to the point where he was arguably the best complimentary player to ever play the game, along the likes of greats like McHale and Pippen. But being the genius that he is, he realized 2nd bananas don't get the cash. So he created this fake feud (with the help of an immature Shaq) to bring himself up to the level of O'Neal. Years later, it worked! Just look at how many Kobe fans think that Kobe shared first billing with Shaq.

    At around the same time, there were talks that Kobe is out of touch, and that he doesn't have any ghetto in him. So he raped a white girl. I mean, how much more ghetto can you get? Iverson threw his woman out the door, guess what? Kobe raped! To top it off, he snitched. Now you may think that that is a totally un-ghetto move, but come on, you know how people in the ghetto survives? They snitch to take out the opposition, and that is exactly what Kobe did, he snitched on Shaq to further bring the image that he and Shaq are one and the same.

    At the tail end of the relationship with Shaq, Kobe feign interest in the Clippers. Not only does this force management's hand in getting rid of Shaq, it created news worthy material that would keep Kobe in the limelight after his massive failure in the finals, drawing attention from his failure to his success in playing management around. He eventually joined the Lakers (no surprises), creating an image of him being loyal to the team that brought him from nothing to a major superstar.

    In the mid 00's, after the departure of Shaq, the Lakers wasn't all that good, facing first round exist and missed playoffs. At the same time, Shaq won his 4th championship, and Kobe is in desperate danger of being knocked off the Shaq pedestal that he worked so hard to climb onto, so he "leaked" a video of him lambasting manager to create the diversion that it wasn't his fault, it was somebody elses'. While most people would have been grilled alive, remember Kobe's audience is different. He plays in a major market with a rich history, TV is desperate to create ratings (Lebron wasn't around then), casual fans are too lazy/ignorant to care, and Kobe fans were already sold on the idea that Kobe can do no wrong, so whatever he said is true. This helped create the image that Kobe is all about winning, and that if the Lakers couldn't win, it's not his fault, it's management.

    Then in the late 00s, the Lakers got the most dominant front line in the league, but failed to win the championship that year. So Kobe grilled Gasol publicly, to bring the criticism to his teammates, yet again. He continuously have this fierce looking facial expression that projects the image that he is intense (likely stolen from Garnett), and yet his skillful frontcourt teammate is too mature to care about creating his legacy, but more concerned about trying to get the ball in the low block rather than rebounding missed 18-foot fade away jumpshots. This moved Kobe to a level where he can get all the credit for the next two championships, despite Gasol shooting a much better %, rebounded better, was the defensive core, and sliced the defense with his pinpoint passing. It wasn't Gasol and Kobe won the championship, it was Kobe won the championship despite Gasol.

    Now, with a clearly better Howard on the team, and at risk of losing the firm grip on the franchise, he comes out and stated something that can not be verified or disputed as some sort of a fact. The lemmings will continue to follow, and nothing will change. While the Kobe fans hum along and take everything Kobe said as the gospel, knowledgeable basketball junkies know what's really the deal.

  7. #32
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    After all these years, I am surprised that you guys still don't understand that Kobe is a marketing genius, and this latest stunt is simply, another move.

    It's just human nature that if you hear something being repeated enough times, it becomes true. That is why propaganda works. Granted, propaganda doesn't work with the well-informed, but we are talking about the general population who doesn't really watch and study the game (that is to say basketball junkies/nerds).


    Kobe does things to promote himself, and he is very successful at it. Look at his popularity in Asia, a place where you guys have continuously bashed at lacking basketball knowledge, and consume merchandise blindly.

    Let's track the history of Kobe's marketing genius:

    In the late 90's, when Kobe was a young buck, he wasn't all that great. He lacked mid-range jumper, chucks too much, was OK on defense. But what he does have though is great athleticism and ability to copy Jordan down to the most minute details. He would smartly market himself as the next Jordan.

    In the early 00s, his game improved to the point where he was arguably the best complimentary player to ever play the game, along the likes of greats like McHale and Pippen. But being the genius that he is, he realized 2nd bananas don't get the cash. So he created this fake feud (with the help of an immature Shaq) to bring himself up to the level of O'Neal. Years later, it worked! Just look at how many Kobe fans think that Kobe shared first billing with Shaq.

    At around the same time, there were talks that Kobe is out of touch, and that he doesn't have any ghetto in him. So he raped a white girl. I mean, how much more ghetto can you get? Iverson threw his woman out the door, guess what? Kobe raped! To top it off, he snitched. Now you may think that that is a totally un-ghetto move, but come on, you know how people in the ghetto survives? They snitch to take out the opposition, and that is exactly what Kobe did, he snitched on Shaq to further bring the image that he and Shaq are one and the same.

    At the tail end of the relationship with Shaq, Kobe feign interest in the Clippers. Not only does this force management's hand in getting rid of Shaq, it created news worthy material that would keep Kobe in the limelight after his massive failure in the finals, drawing attention from his failure to his success in playing management around. He eventually joined the Lakers (no surprises), creating an image of him being loyal to the team that brought him from nothing to a major superstar.

    In the mid 00's, after the departure of Shaq, the Lakers wasn't all that good, facing first round exist and missed playoffs. At the same time, Shaq won his 4th championship, and Kobe is in desperate danger of being knocked off the Shaq pedestal that he worked so hard to climb onto, so he "leaked" a video of him lambasting manager to create the diversion that it wasn't his fault, it was somebody elses'. While most people would have been grilled alive, remember Kobe's audience is different. He plays in a major market with a rich history, TV is desperate to create ratings (Lebron wasn't around then), casual fans are too lazy/ignorant to care, and Kobe fans were already sold on the idea that Kobe can do no wrong, so whatever he said is true. This helped create the image that Kobe is all about winning, and that if the Lakers couldn't win, it's not his fault, it's management.

    Then in the late 00s, the Lakers got the most dominant front line in the league, but failed to win the championship that year. So Kobe grilled Gasol publicly, to bring the criticism to his teammates, yet again. He continuously have this fierce looking facial expression that projects the image that he is intense (likely stolen from Garnett), and yet his skillful frontcourt teammate is too mature to care about creating his legacy, but more concerned about trying to get the ball in the low block rather than rebounding missed 18-foot fade away jumpshots. This moved Kobe to a level where he can get all the credit for the next two championships, despite Gasol shooting a much better %, rebounded better, was the defensive core, and sliced the defense with his pinpoint passing. It wasn't Gasol and Kobe won the championship, it was Kobe won the championship despite Gasol.

    Now, with a clearly better Howard on the team, and at risk of losing the firm grip on the franchise, he comes out and stated something that can not be verified or disputed as some sort of a fact. The lemmings will continue to follow, and nothing will change. While the Kobe fans hum along and take everything Kobe said as the gospel, knowledgeable basketball junkies know what's really the deal.
    As my great friend and mentor Cully would say:

    Boiled down to:

    Kobe 5
    Tired Old bag 4

    Let us proceed!!!

  8. #33
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    IMO, Kobe taking too many shots is kinda the norm, so I'm not sure it's newsworthy....

    Plus Dwight has more important things to be concerned about, tbh. If he's paying hush money to hoes he gotta be extra careful because he now has a teammate who is a known snitch...


  9. #34
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    As my great friend and mentor Cully would say:

    Boiled down to:

    Kobe 5
    Tired Old bag 4

    Let us proceed!!!
    And as anybody who isn't ignorant would say:

    Boiled down to:

    Kobe fans think 2nd bananas win championships.

    Let us proceed.

  10. #35
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    ambchang's hatred of Kobe is so visceral

  11. #36
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    Stop supporting the chucker DD makes you look like a

  12. #37
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    What's not to like about a player whose mere presence incites jealousy and hatred among opposing fans?

    he's black Jesus

  13. #38
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    more like his chucking and selfish behavior is bad basketball and people just don't approve

  14. #39
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    Winning 5 rings is bad basketball?

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    3 were as a sidekick, 1 was either co-captain or another 2nd banana ring its hard to say. kobe played in la, that's about all he's got going for him.

  16. #41
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    You think Kobe is selfish, can’t mesh with Nash. He thinks you’re dumb.

    “Here’s the thing: Some people are just very, very dumb. I keep hearing it from some people that I just want to score and that other stuff. Nobody has won more championships than me in my entire generation. I’ve got five of them. You can’t be selfish and win one championship, let alone five. That argument should be in the coffin by now. I don’t like having the ball.


    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...medium=twitter

  17. #42
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    Newsflash, got: It's his team.
    beta male wanting that rapist in his ass

    ambchang's hatred of Kobe is so visceral
    true, but he puts it so succinctly, there's nothing to add. Food Stamps is your false god.

  18. #43
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    My false god can beat up your false god

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    Deep down inside spurfan wishes Jim was a more selfish player because the reality is, relying on scrubs and fatasses won't get the job done.

    But at this point TOSB is done, he couldn't be selfish even if he wanted to

  20. #45
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    ambchang's hatred of Kobe is so visceral
    My false god can beat up your false god
    he can definitely out-snitch and out-rape, no argument from me.

  21. #46
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    Unoriginal comeback is unoriginal.

  22. #47
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    The difference between lakerfan and spurfan is that spurfan accepted their TOSB is done. Lakerfan is still in denial.

    tbh, I hope he keeps "not liking the ball" like the last two seasons...

  23. #48
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    The difference between lakerfan and spurfan is that spurfan accepted their TOSB is done.
    That's ing rich

  24. #49
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    true, there's not much more to add about kobe. glorified second options are boring. ready for that nig to retire tbh.

  25. #50
    The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick's Avatar
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    true, there's not much more to add about kobe. glorified second options are boring.
    Unoriginal comeback is unoriginal.

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