Lakers: Kobe already implying that he's going to continue taking too many shots

[ElNono]

That's ing rich

what's rich about it? These days dude is good for a quick 2nd round exit.

Now that the lakeshow has an actual superstar again, maybe he'll coattail to the WCF... but it's all up to Dwight...

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

You missed the point...I was laughing at your notion that spur fans think Duncan is a tosb now. They were spraying so much semen upstairs over him last year

[ElNono]

You missed the point...I was laughing at your notion that spur fans think Duncan is a tosb now. They were spraying so much semen upstairs over him last year

Should've added a disclaimer: The views expressed here are not shared by TD21 or the good doctor, tbh...

[Ashy Larry]

I think he said what every one already knew ........ really don't see a problem with the statement but the actions on the floor should damn sure be different. Use Nash, Gasol, Meeks, Howard, Jamison and Ron Ron. He'd be a dumb not to.

[Bynumite]

The difference between lakerfan and spurfan is that spurfan accepted their TOSB is done. Lakerfan is still in denial.

tbh, I hope he keeps "not liking the ball" like the last two seasons...

Spurfan didn't really "accept" Jim's TOSB status, it was shoved down your throats. Jimmy boy is beyond done.

The aftermath, the spurs are left with nothing but a playoff ghost at the point.

Meanwhile, the Lakers have a pretty decent shot at their 17th

[ElNono]

Spurfan didn't really "accept" Jim's TOSB status, it was shoved down your throats. Jimmy boy is beyond done.

Jimmy boy is good enough to take his team to the early rounds of the playoffs... you know, like you boi Kobe.

The only question with the flaccid mamba is if he's going to jump into dwight's coattail and ride the wave or lose his team another season...

[Bynumite]

Jimmy boy is good enough to take his team to the early rounds of the playoffs... you know, like you boi Kobe.

Not gonna hate tbh. Let spurfan celebrate their regular season championships and WCF banners

The only question with the flaccid mamba is if he's going to jump into dwight's coattail and ride the wave or lose his team another season...

Wishful thinking won't make the spurs better or the Lakers worse. The reality is, the Lakers have a pretty good team right now, certainly better than the team they had the last couple of seasons and that's a fact. I like their chances tbh.

[racm]

Not gonna hate tbh. Let spurfan celebrate their regular season championships and WCF banners



Wishful thinking won't make the spurs better or the Lakers worse. The reality is, the Lakers have a pretty good team right now, certainly better than the team they had the last couple of seasons and that's a fact. I like their chances tbh.

Now that's intelligent thinking.

[Bynumite]

Now that's intelligent thinking.

So you were saying Nike is responsible for Kobe's successful career spurfan

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

racm embodies the gnsf state of mind

[ElNono]

Not gonna hate tbh. Let spurfan celebrate their regular season championships and WCF banners

We take what we can get, tbh... watching them in the WCFs certainly beats the view from the fishing boat...

Wishful thinking won't make the spurs better or the Lakers worse. The reality is, the Lakers have a pretty good team right now, certainly better than the team they had the last couple of seasons and that's a fact. I like their chances tbh.

Wishing has nothing to do with it, tbh. Lakers had a pretty good team last season too (Gasol/Bynum? I'll take them). The problem is the cancer that cares more about record-chasing than the team. I'd like their chances too if Kobe actually does what he preaches (like Ash pointed out)

[ambchang]

Never really expected so many people proving my theory to be true.

Thanks guys.

[ambchang]

ambchang's hatred of Kobe is so visceral

I have repeated this many many times, I do not hate Kobe. In fact, I would have loved to have Kobe with the Spurs during his prime, or maybe even now. I think Kobe will be an upgrade over Manu Ginobili playing a supporting role to Duncan during the mid 00's, and that the Spurs will be almost unbeatable with him as a SG.

The issue I have is just that Kobe is overrated. His accomplishments put him in the top 15 in the history of the league, his talent puts him in the top 25 (probably top 20, but I am too lazy to list out everyone), and he was overrated because of the following factors:
1) Revisionist history
2) Continuous marketing push (tied to point 3)
3) He played for the Lakers, which is a team with a rich history, huge market, and glitz and glamour galore.
4) He was an extremely athletic player
5) He played for multiple very well-built teams, but kept getting individual glory for team accomplishments

It is point 1, 2, and 5 that I hate

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

You don't hate Kobe, and OJ didn't kill Nicole andRon.

[Koolaid_Man]

I have repeated this many many times, I do not hate Kobe. In fact, I would have loved to have Kobe with the Spurs during his prime, or maybe even now. I think Kobe will be an upgrade over Manu Ginobili playing a supporting role to Duncan during the mid 00's, and that the Spurs will be almost unbeatable with him as a SG.

The issue I have is just that Kobe is overrated. His accomplishments put him in the top 15 in the history of the league, his talent puts him in the top 25 (probably top 20, but I am too lazy to list out everyone), and he was overrated because of the following factors:
1) Revisionist history
2) Continuous marketing push (tied to point 3)
3) He played for the Lakers, which is a team with a rich history, huge market, and glitz and glamour galore.
4) He was an extremely athletic player
5) He played for multiple very well-built teams, but kept getting individual glory for team accomplishments

It is point 1, 2, and 5 that I hate

shut the up you gotdam, pussy ass, punk , in the booty ass Ho.
U just mad its Kobe 5 and Duncan 4
Furthermore has Duncan ever played with Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Chucky Atkins, Brian Cook, and Luke Walton?

Gtfoh u playa hating .

[mavs>spurs]

The mirror thread to this would be "Kool already implying that he's going to continue taking too many s"

[ambchang]

I am not trying to convince you guys I don't hate Kobe, I don't care either way, but I would like to tell the truth, and it seems like Kobe fans can't handle the truth, so instead of responding in a mature, well thought out manner, you guys just go into these offensive, profanity-laced insults.

We are civilized people here, and while I understand some of you are just Kobe fans, and the concept of civility is foreign to you, after so many years of hanging out in Spurstalk, one of the most intelligent basketball forums there is, you guys should have the ability to leave some of your barbaric raw instincts behind, and stop acting like savages.

I am sorry for you, I really do. But on the other hand, I felt that I am really wishing for someone to have some sort of bi-polar disorder, because, at the end of it, those who overrate Kobe and put him in the top 10 of all time, or the best there was since Jordan, are, by definition, ill-informed, ignorant, and in a simple word, sheep. To expect sheep to act with civility, use his/her brains to analyze situations and not let the media sway you blindly is perhaps something too much to ask, like asking an ape to work a computer.

[Relevancy]

I am not trying to convince you guys I don't hate Kobe, I don't care either way, but I would like to tell the truth, and it seems like Kobe fans can't handle the truth, so instead of responding in a mature, well thought out manner, you guys just go into these offensive, profanity-laced insults.

We are civilized people here, and while I understand some of you are just Kobe fans, and the concept of civility is foreign to you, after so many years of hanging out in Spurstalk, one of the most intelligent basketball forums there is, you guys should have the ability to leave some of your barbaric raw instincts behind, and stop acting like savages.

I am sorry for you, I really do. But on the other hand, I felt that I am really wishing for someone to have some sort of bi-polar disorder, because, at the end of it, those who overrate Kobe and put him in the top 10 of all time, or the best there was since Jordan, are, by definition, ill-informed, ignorant, and in a simple word, sheep. To expect sheep to act with civility, use his/her brains to analyze situations and not let the media sway you blindly is perhaps something too much to ask, like asking an ape to work a computer.

Nice reply, I enjoyed reading everything Your so awesome dude, show me yo face so I can prove the fact that you don't look like that ugly ape.

[ambchang]

You will likely be disappointed.

[Bill_Brasky]

Kobe is pretty much the perfect example of "right place, right time".

[ambchang]

Bb, couldn't have put it better. Kobe is a unique player in the sense that he is an amalgamation of multiple players. In any other organization, and I mean a team who does not have the tradition and attraction as the lakers franchise and a good if not great management, you are looking at a player with a combination of Vince carter, Karl Malone and John Havlicek.

Carter because of his athletic ability, slashing and generally extremely entertaining, if somewhat inefficient game.
Malone because of his longevity and elbows, as well as the ability to take his teammates credit away.
Havlicek because of his longevity and his drive to continuously improve his game. Additionally, the ability to play 2nd banana as well as "leading" loAded teams to rings.

[Venti Quattro]

Kobe is pretty much the perfect example of "right place, right time".

That's rich to say from a fan of an entire city and an entire franchise laid on the foundation of "right place, right time".

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

That's rich to say from a fan of an entire city and an entire franchise laid on the foundation of "right place, right time".

BOOM. Headshot.

[Bill_Brasky]

That's rich to say from a fan of an entire city and an entire franchise laid on the foundation of "right place, right time".

He'd be without the Lakers and Phil and you in know it.

Also I didn't know that my team being fortunate enough to land Duncan had anything to do with it.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

He'd be without the Lakers and Phil and you in know it.

Also I didn't know that my team being fortunate enough to land Duncan had anything to do with it.

He's simply matching one "what if?" to another. If the Spurs hadn't lucked out in the draft (aided by tanking, though) then they would have zero rings.


Hypotheticals are fun, and make great bases for arguments.