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Also for both MannyIsGod and Wild Cobra who I mentioned above ... if you feel as if your candidate won then of course feel free to vote for them, but please explain why you feel they won. thanks
sons who won the debate tonight?
- Votes will be made public due to the likes of MannyIsGod (who will vote Democratic straight ticket) and Wild Cobra (who will vote Republican straight ticket)
try to give an honest vote on what you saw tonight. do not base it on your political views.
Also for both MannyIsGod and Wild Cobra who I mentioned above ... if you feel as if your candidate won then of course feel free to vote for them, but please explain why you feel they won. thanks
Great thread, glad to participate. I vote for Romney - he showed up to get a point across and he accomplished his goal of not looking like a total ing robot.
Obama looked confused, it is possible he over-prepared. Then again, if he did prepare at all he would have been able to hit Romney with a few clean hits. He never threw anything more than a jab - he did a lot of turtling and in effect, praire-dogged himself into submission.
God bless!
Romney should get Obama's ticket to anniversary sex for det dere Barry underperformance.
Winning involves answering questions correctly. On that score, Obama walks away with a victory.
Romney was more enthusiastic, though.
We need a "neither" option... both are party-line crooks, and the American people automatically lost, tbh....
I think Romney won the debate hands down.
I also think he lied through his teeth in doing so.
Wake me up when either of these clowns has even a cursory understanding of basic math (let alone economics).
this tbh
but Romney clearly won this one
Mitt's angry white guy routine will connect well with angry white guys, but mark my words...tonight, with his duck and weave, he might as well have been doing an ad for the Obama campaign...
Obama won on substance and lost on style. The media clearly declared Romney the winner though because it really only cares about the latter.
Future illegal wars won, NDAA won, Patriot Act won, future internet regulation won, Federal Reserve won, Banksters won, a corrupt 2 party system won.
Innocent people in the Middle East living and dead, the American people, their civil liberties, and the Cons ution lost
Obama has expanded the fight against a tactic far more than Bush ever. Obama has increased the government's power and authority too. I mean seriously, why can't people wake the up and realize that Obama is a lot like Bush especially on the war mongering, nation building, and the war on terror? Obama has done much more on violating civil liberties as president than Bush ever did.
Get off of it already....what nation build has Obama done specifically? Does torture still exists at GITMO and are people being tortured in prisons in Poland and other countries? ...dude...I know you have a hard one for Obama, but your lies are redundant...
How many drone attacks have there been under Obama? How many under Bush? Who signed the NDAA into law? Who supports the Patriot Act as president but bashed Bush for supporting it? Drone attacks on innocent civilians and American citizens. You keep drinking the Obama koolaid all you want but your guy is a fake and just like Bush. I feel sorry for people that can't see it.
Are you actively campaigning against all the Congressional members, Republican or Democrat who voted for the NDAA despite Obama's reservations to the language governing the detainment of domestic terrorists? Yes or No?
Do drone attacks save lives of American service-men by not having to put them in harms way? Yes or No?
Did the President state that the Patriot act should be repealed eventually? Yes or no?
You haven't a clue do you?
I hate Obama and I don't exactly like Romney. I never vote a strait republican ticket. There are 3rd party candidates you know.
I didn't watch the debate. I don't care about it. I will very likely vote 3rd party this years, or write in Ron Paul.
Like this?
Didn't you just love Monty Brewster's campaign?
Obama won the debate. A debate is about proving your point with facts, and making the other guy's position look bad with facts.
Obama destroyed Romney in this category. So he won the debate.
Thing is, winning the debate and winning votes isn't the same thing. If you look happy and confident while lying and saying nothing relevant, while the other guy is serious and always deflecting, then the confident guy (Romney) might appear to win. . .unless you understand what they're talking about. In which case he just comes off like a terrible debator who has no points worth talking about.
Case in point: at one point in the debate, Obama points out that Romney doesn't actually specifiy his plans (which he doesn't) when asked to lay out his plans. The old guy asks Romney to specify his plan. Romney starts up by talking about how important the issue is (blah blah blah), just revving up to get to the point, then literally says just TWO quick sentences about his plan (and it sounded like ), then he quickly changes gears and starts talking about how great it'll be, no longer specifying. Once he finishes revving down from his amazing two sentence layout of his plan (might've only been one sentence now that I think about it, but it had a comma in it!), then he spends 30-40 seconds talking about something completely irrelevant to make it seem like he loves america. Then he sits back with a eating grin on his face, completely not even answering the question.
So when I look at those two dip s, Obama at least tells you what he's doing. Romney hides what he plans to do because he worries it'll be used against him (and it would be). Obama literally gave more details of Romney's plans than Romney did. The republican party should be embarrassed. Anybody with half a brain should realize what they plan to do isn't going to be popular. That's why they aren't talking about it. Instead they just talk about how ty Obama is and how great america is.
Obama won the "debate", but I can see why the dumber populous would think Romney won. He looked more content towards the end of the debate and got to close last.
There should be a word limit on Kidd K's posts tbh imo
smh --- Both candidates flubbed the facts, per par. LOL at saying Obama was better on facts than Romney. They're both s bags
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-04-03-00-20
typical red team/blue team idiocy going on in here from the usual suspects
I was at work. Consensus there -- all second hand, right? -- was that Obama looked rattled early on. Points for poise to Romney.
Didn't hear much about the substance of it though. From what I read here, I'm not sorry I missed it.
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