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    Isn't God also mentioned in your beloved DNC's platform?

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    ^ is this a joke?

    He's been challenged at every turn by congressional obstructionists for years. Their stated goal is to make him a one term president, not to serve the country, etc.

    I think I was pretty specific about the press. Yes, he was challenged by Repubs on a massive govt takeover of health care when the country was hurting for jobs.

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    I laugh at people that complain about the GOP doing whatever it takes to make Obama a one term president. Hypocritical much? Besides, the party that is not in power always tries to hurt the party that is in power. That's American politics, brah.

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    Op eds are not policy...Germany and China are as vulnerable to the world banks as the U.S...

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    Reality Check: Who Is Behind The Commission on Presidential Debates? Are The Debates Rigged?


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    Isn't God also mentioned in your beloved DNC's platform?
    Dems remove all references to 'God' from 2012 party platform

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...-platform.html

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    I thought it was tactical by Obama
    unintentional gold

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    unintentional gold
    Gotta give credit to Mitt though, I haven't seen anyone duck and roll like that since OJ...

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    Gotta give credit to Mitt though, I haven't seen anyone duck and roll like that since OJ...
    I actually don't think he did too much ducking and rolling, at least not more than any politician ever does. The ducking and rolling will be next debate since Obama has to do better IMHO. For example, Romney doesn't have a national plan for replacing Obamacare, but he wants to leave it to state legislatures, not Capitol Hill, so it's not really a duck n roll. More like just a straight up I don't know we'll find out later Kinda reminds me of Hope n Change

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    We have a couple more debates to look forward to and I expect Obama to have a much stronger showing next time. He may want to work on his jaw clenching and looks of contempt -- not flattering.
    He needs to revert to his 2008 move of looking down his nose at his opponent during the discussion instead of looking at the camera or the audience.

    There's a major issue in having a debate with the President of the US. You cannot tell him to shut up, you cannot just cut him off even though that old coot tried a couple of times, and the roll eyes by coot was unbecoming of a host.

    The "3 minutes total" speech and subsequent question lasted about 3 minutes.

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    I actually don't think he did too much ducking and rolling, at least not more than any politician ever does. The ducking and rolling will be next debate since Obama has to do better IMHO. For example, Romney doesn't have a national plan for replacing Obamacare, but he wants to leave it to state legislatures, not Capitol Hill, so it's not really a duck n roll. More like just a straight up I don't know we'll find out later Kinda reminds me of Hope n Change
    I'm not sure how you can say that with a straight face...many of Romney's finer points tonight were quite contrary to the policies his been campaign under....

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    I was thinking what would happen if Obama and Romney went out for drinks and buffalo wings after the debate but then I remembered that Romney is a Mormon. However, Romney is filthy rich and might have a drink every once in a while.

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    Dan in full spin that mode...

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    I'm not sure how you can say that with a straight face...many of Romney's finer points tonight were quite contrary to the policies his been campaign under....
    I know I know, if someone says anything even remotely resembling a compliment for "the other guy" it's joke material. Like I said earlier, dude is a head, for a variety of reasons. Doesn't change my opinion about him ducking and rolling anything in this debate. Like I also said/implied, next debate I'm sure Blue Team will be calling him out on a few things that will actually force some ducks and rolls. Obama just didn't bring it tonight.

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    Dan in full spin that mode...
    Call it spin if you want, but the GOP will really have to stretch the context to find gold material in Obama's performance tonight...while Romney..he was gold..

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    This is what I expect in the next couple of days:

    Option A) Polls tick up for Mitt a little and the media goes full blast on the "comeback" narrative

    Option B) Polls don't move or move towards Barry and the media goes full blast on the "what's wrong with the GOP" narrative

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    I was thinking what would happen if Obama and Romney went out for drinks and buffalo wings after the debate but then I remembered that Romney is a Mormon. However, Romney is filthy rich and might have a drink every once in a while.
    something along the lines of " America" while Obama smoked a stogie and Romney sipped his bottled natural spring water.

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    Call it spin if you want, but the GOP will really have to stretch the context to find gold material in Obama's performance tonight...while Romney..he was gold..
    Don't think you posted this much on a thread since the last election, tbh

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    This is what I expect in the next couple of days:

    Option A) Polls tick up for Mitt a little and the media goes full blast on the "comeback" narrative

    Option B) Polls don't move or move towards Barry and the media goes full blast on the "what's wrong with the GOP" narrative
    Romney is on life support, so any uptick will seem like a gain to the punditry...

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    Don't think you posted this much on a thread since the last election, tbh
    I've been busy. but it's election time!

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    ^ is this a joke?

    He's been challenged at every turn by congressional obstructionists for years. Their stated goal is to make him a one term president, not to serve the country, etc.
    Exactly. He was probably shocked at how many times Romney agreed with him on policy issues. The differences almost seemed manufactured with a few exceptions, of course.

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    Obamney!

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    Obama has been sheltered by the media since his first run in the primaries. He has proven that if the topics are given and his words scripted he is masterful. If he has to think on his feet there is a huge drop off. I thought he was weak at the convention but it was overshadowed mainly by Clinton. Obama can not win these debates talking about the issues. Expect to see the talking points from Obama if Romney is able to repond he should do well. It is scary to think how much influence the debate moderators could have in the coming debates.

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    M itt Romney Gives Obama All The Lies He Needs to Hang Him With

    Mitt Romney’s lie based strategy couldn’t measure up to Obama, and gave the president all the rope he needs to hang the Republican nominee.

    The first question was about jobs, and Obama framed the question as about the future direction of the country. Romney starts off with an immediate lie that he is not going to cut taxes on the rich, and launched into his stump speech five point plan that provides no details. Eight minutes into the debate, Romney’s main pitch was “trust me” on the economy. (Romney looks nervous and like he might throw up.) Romney then broke off a lie and said that he doesn’t have a $5 trillion tax cut. Romney then tried to paint himself as the candidate of the middle class, with the claim that middle income families are being crushed under Obama. Romney promises to drill on government land for oil and natural gas, and touts drill, baby drill. Romney sprinkled a little fairy dust and claimed that he isn’t raising taxes on the middle class. Obama hits Romney by telling the truth that Romney has been pushing a $5 trillion tax cut. Obama blasts Romney for not delivering specifics on what deductions and loopholes he would close.


    It took less than 16 minutes for Romney lose his cool and interrupt the moderator. Romney followed up by contradicting his own running mate’s claim that Romney is going to cut taxes 20% across the board for all income earners. Obama brought Romney back to reality by telling him that his tax plan doesn’t add up. Obama touted cutting taxes 18 times, and cutting taxes for the 98%.

    Obama hit Romney for defining millionaires and billionaires is small business. Mitt Romney delivered some highly deceiving statistics about small businesses. According to Washington Monthly the Romney/Republican definition includes, “Many of those 750,000 small businesses aren’t small at all. Some, like Bechtel Corporation, are positively enormous. The Democratic and Republican figures come from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation. But numerous think tanks and government organizations have examined the data and come to similar conclusions: First, that letting the Bush tax cuts on the top two brackets of “small-business” income would impact a tiny percentage of those businesses; and second, that many of the “small businesses” that would be impacted are actually giant companies — which explains why such a tiny fraction of them can account for half of small business income.”

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    Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/mitt-rom...lies-hang.html

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