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Not entirely over it. Still pretty pissed off on how the Spurs lost their iden y after being up 2-0. That just shouldn't happen in four straight ing games.
I'm excited. It should be a great season!
It feels like the start of any other season.
Meh, I just can't get totally into it right now.
Last year's disappointment is too fresh. I need more time.
I'm done being a hardcore Spurs fan.
I'm very excited to see how Leonard plays. Also a full season with Diaw. We have pieces to make a trade if we need to.
Not entirely over it. Still pretty pissed off on how the Spurs lost their iden y after being up 2-0. That just shouldn't happen in four straight ing games.
, I'm still not over 2006, much less last year.
But I'm still excited about this season.
...so they're not winning championships because Pop doesn't complain enough to the media? Stupid.
They're never going to win one with him in charge, or they're never going to win one with the current players on the team? Even if he never won another championship, one could easily argue that his players weren't good enough; give him another superstar in his prime, and it's a different story. Unless you can find a way to dissociate Pop's issues from other relevant factors for success, your argument is a pile of .
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I'm pretty optimistic. The Spurs can still win another championship, and their window has about three years left in my estimation. I can't believe there is so much Laker-fear in this thread. Come on, really? Grow some balls, people. Howard is a mediocre offensive center, and Gasol, Nash, and Bryant are all past their primes. We can take 'em.
Stern will have the last word
Just give up
I mostly look foward to seek Leonard Joseph and our other young prospects develop.
Tonight's game was the empiest game I've ever seen in the AT&T Center. I know it's a really early preseason game against a team no one has heard of ... but wow. If I had to guess, I'd say there were between 4,000 and 5,000 fans.
This poll paints a pretty rosy picture. Hopefully the Spurs and their fans are over the hangover. Then again, this poll is a classic selection bias. If you're logging into SpursTalk, the last three options probably don't apply to you . . .
I was thinking this about the poll. Still find it hard to believe they had that weak of a turnout. Perhaps it is a hangover from the playoffs.....or just an unknown team, in the NBA. I really wish I could have made it!!
I'm apathetic. But not just for the Spurs; rather, toward the NBA in general.
My wife (then girlfriend) was a big NASCAR fan when we first met and since I'm not completely stupid I decided to follow it as well for that very reason. The "sport" was exciting for a while, until one guy started winning every year and you realize that when it's all said and done they basically just drive in circles. And there's two main factors that separate a perennial winner from a consistent loser: 1) luck -- crashes taking out your main compe ors and not you, deciding on a whim to change out two tires instead of four on a pit stop, deciding to take the high line instead of going low in turn four on the last lap. 2) sponsors -- the more money you have behind you, the more you can spend on if not helping your "luck," then at at least mitigating your "bad luck." Neither of these two factors has anything to do with a driver's skill behind the wheel -- if they did, then Kyle Busch would be winning every year.
Like NASCAR, the NBA has lost it's purity. It used to be the Every Man's sport, and now it's not. And that's why I just can't bring myself to fanatically support a single team -- because I know the game is rigged.
It's self-perpetuating. Blogs (which, let's be honest, is where we read the vast majority of our "news") get paid per click. The more people read what they have to say, intelligent or not, factual or not, added-value or not, is irrelevant. In fact, the readers don't even have to read the article, they just have to click on it. And since NBA fans are generally geographically-loyal, naturally they blogs are going to target the biggest population areas -- LA, Miami, New York. And the more "press" those teams receive (it's not actually 'press' now, but rather 'clicks'), the more fans fill the seats and buy their merchandise and thus the more their revenue increases. And the more their revenue increases, the more the other owners will benefit. , even being associated with one of those big-market teams gets the smaller markets in the news. The Magic must have gotten more press during the "Dwightmare" than they did the last few years combined; no wonder they were so reluctant to let him leave!
I'll start following the NBA religiously again when the game stops being rigged. When it returns to being a pure matter of putting a ball through a hoop while preventing the other team from doing so. When winning championships is not a direct result of winning the most media coverage. When winning championships is no longer a product of luck, sponsors, or owners, but rather a product of skill.
Like NASCAR, the NBA is going in circles. Miami on turn one, Brooklyn and New York turns two and three, Lakers on turn four. Home stretch still goes through Texas... but fans today don't watch for the finish. Just for the crashes.
And until that changes, I'm not sure my level of apathy will change either.
The NBA used to be a pure sport. But now they're just turning left.
I know that I myself definitely bought into the hype of the win streak far too much. I was talking way too much smack at work towards my *vomit* Miami Heat bandwagon friend... I was almost positive that the Spurs were going to win it all.
We went on holiday with the series 2-0, and I came back to see we lost. That hurt bad. I kind of wish there was like another couple of weeks before the season begins, or they invented time travel. But either way, its the Spurs - so I can't wait to see what happens.
Unfortunately I'm quite discouraged. I have never been a fan of "blowing it up" but I feel like the time has come to do just that. In today's NBA the current spurs are not more than a regular season money-grab type of team. Though they're getting my $$ so maybe thats a success story in and of itself...anyway the point is that I don't see them winning vs OKC or LAL. Guys like Danny Green and Matt Bonner are just gonna fail epically again and let me down.
I honestly thought this team was finished and couldn't believe it when they proved to be legit le contenders last year. I think a le is completely out of the question (EVERYTHING went right last year with health, season rest, seeding, and tons of rest heading into the OKC series, and it wasn't enough). However, I can't be anything but excited for this season after such an awesome playoff run last year. I don't see any way they get through LA or OKC to make the WCF again, but I do think they have another solid playoff run in them this year as long as Tim and Manu don't fall off a cliff due to age this season. Plus I love watching Jack on this team, and hope to they don't trade him unless it's for a complete steal. Not having Jefferson on the team makes them infinitely more enjoyable to watch.
If they were going to blow it up, they should have done it last year to tank for Unibrow or Kidd-Gilchrist. This is a lousy year to tank without all the talented bigs the 2012 draft had. There's just no one in this coming draft I'm at all excited about. Shabbaz Muhammed is a nice player, but he's not exactly what Derrick Rose was in the athleticism department. Nerlens Noel will be an elite defender in the league for sure, but dude has a non-existent offensive game from when I have watched him. McAdoo will probably be a nice player, as will Zeller, but I don't see franchise big there the way I do with Unibrow. Maybe 2013 will be a good year to blow it up for Parker or Randle, but 2012 definitely is not. And blowing the team up for capspace would be an awful idea, since the deck is extremely stacked against anyone but LA, Miami, and NYC getting any decent free agents with the restricted free agency and sign and trade rules what they are. I definitely wouldn't be ok with trading Parker for lottery picks in such a weak draft this year like I was early in the 2011-12 year for the 2012 draft.
Yeah, Leonard excites me as much as Parker did in 02. I can't wait to see what kind of player he develops into.
Are season ticket holders still forced to buy preseason games?
The Spurs have a somewhat realistic chance of having the best regular season in the league, but are very unlikely to win the le, We just lack the horses to play at an elite level for 40 minutes a night. I think it's entirely possible that we finish with a point differential that suggests elite play, but the deep roster that means we have so few weak minutes in the regular season means we can't get better in the playoffs, there's so little fat to trim.
That said, I'll have a good time watching them play. The offense is such a joy to watch, and I'm alright with having 80 games of joy and then rooting for the underdog.
Being excited about the upcoming season -as I am with all seasons- should not be mistaken for a belief that the team can win a le. They, and the rest of the league, had a small window last year while Miami tried to figure out how to play together. That window is now closed. I'm not terribly concerned about the Lakers collecting trading card talent. Their starting five could be called "the beast with two backs". Nobody's beating Miami. I'll still be rooting for the Spurs and hoping to be proven wrong.
I think I'm over it, but I still think about it. When this team won 20 games in a row, I was on top of the world as a Spurs fan. Up 2-0 in the Conference Finals, I was privately (in my head) making my plans to go to my first ever NBA Finals game. And poof, just like that...it was gone. I've seen many Spurs games live as I was growing up, from the Alamodome to the AT&T Center. I've seen heartbreaks in person (Marbury's 3-point buzzer beater in the 1st round of 03') to some very exciting regular season wins, and finally saw my first live Playoff win during last years Clippers series in Game 2. It sucks knowing that they were so so close to getting back to the Finals. I went into last year with no expectations at all and we were 2 wins from the Finals. This time, I have SOME expectations. But then I think about OKC being better, the Lakers adding Dwight, and the Heat in the East. I still think the Spurs are a Top 5 NBA team in my heart and in my mind. I think a full year of Jack and Diaw will help, along with Kawhi's 2nd year and Danny Green coming off an incredible year as well. If the Mavericks could win a le with an aging core of Dirk, Kidd, Terry, and Marion, I think the Spurs can squeeze one last le out of Tim, Tony, and Manu....Here's to an awesome season guys!
I'm not TOO surprised it wasnt so packed tonight. Saturday night, 1st pre-season game, and against a non NBA team.
The Spurs went 31-6 with Jax on the roster. Teams that typically get far into the playoffs but don't win it all tend to go on a roll the following season.
i'm not quite as into it yet as most seasons but mainly because my st. louis rams are actually doing well in the nfl right now. usually, i'm chomping at the bit waiting for the nba season to kick off cuz st. louis is generally 0-4, 1-3 at this point and all hope is lost for them. i'm still in nfl mode right now i spose, but once the first regular season tip-off occurs, i will get there
I'm excited. I know this is a different year but every time SA has been extra sour about a playoff defeat they've come back strong like .04, or Manu's foul in OT. If they can be hurt and bring in another guy or 2 who might better fit what we want to do, It should be an exciting season.
None of the choices accurately reflect my mental state regarding the Spurs this season. I'm one of those people who prefers to think he's a realist, and the realist view is that though the Spurs are still a force to be reckoned with, they are not the legit threat they were in years past. Last year they went through the league like a windmill in a hurricane (RIP Andy Griffith) and in the post season they did some things that really made them look poised to strike, but that's from the column readers' perspective, those "fans" who catch the box scores and the highlights and don't follow the season or really know that the Spurs were a V8 firing on 9 cylinders. Coach Pop said they overachieved last year and that's right about where I believe they were.
We hear talk about running into a "buzzsaw" when a team gets destroyed in the post season, well last season the Spurs were that buzzsaw for the first two rounds, but their opponents were jigsaw puzzles that were not completely put together (The Jazz were just severely out matched and had no business in the playoffs with no real chance to progress). The Spurs made some impressive comebacks against the Clippers, and looked good in the first couple of games against the Thunder. They had an outside shot at a ring if the Thunder broke and if injuries could sideline some key players on the teams they were going to face.
In the end, I just want to see good basketball and that's what the Spurs provide, the clean, crisp passes, savvy cuts and ball movement is a thing of beauty that even the haters admire. I am just as excited about the season as ever, and winning it all isn't impossible, but I am not expecting even the WCF this season.
Spurs played the Hornets?
I am a combo of really excited, but still really upset at the loss last year. To have guys melting down, not fully compete & to lose 4 in a row for the first time all season (with home court) still really stings because that team was damn good and I know they were better than what they showed that last 4 games.
I don't have expectations this year with regards to a le realistically, but internally that is still the bar for me. When we have a big 3 that can still play at the level ours do, that can't change for me although realistically I know it's a long shot. I think the Spurs will be a damn good team again and depth will obviously play a critical role. However, I am interested to see if the Spurs truly put an emphasis on defense (bench players that are not cutting it there, make a trade to sure things up...)and I am interested to see if the double-edged sword of depth hurts the Spurs (use depth all year, win a lot of games, then shorten the rotation in the playoffs and have guys out of the rotation that were helping and also make guys play a lot more minutes than their body has been trained to do over the course of the season).
I am very excited about the team, the season and how good they can be, but I am still very much stung over last year. I think once regular season gets here - I'll drop that feeling and just get so into this season that it matter any more.
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