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    Lots of reasons, hard to sort out which one carries the biggest burden. I think the whole process really got started with the Spurs 2007 championship. The years leading up to that pulled in a number of good Mavs, Suns, and Pistons fans. It also pulled in a lot of dumbass GNSF who seemed to think that having outsiders on a Spurs board was an affront to God. (FOUR RINGS, GOT!) Its a credit to the outsider fans who stuck around through the needless ringsmack. With that said it doesn't absolve them from their part in trolling right back in the ensuing seasons as the Spurs couldn't return to glory. I'm not saying they didn't deserve it, but that was where things started to lose their way IMO. Previously the trolls would come out in response to ty takes that were out place in the forum's generally high quality BB discussions. Around this time the trolling started to replace the BB discussion. If there was a time where this place might have been put on a leash it was then. I'm not saying that would have saved it. In all likelihood the reasons for letting it go were right; throwing a bunch of rules up wouldn't have done anything to stem the tide of GNSF idiots, while the non Spurs fans who enjoyed the NBA forum were there mostly for the lax moderation compared to other sites.

    Then the Lakers got relevant again and their trolls came at the exact worse time. By the time that the post Gasol trade Lakers were established in the league the NBA forum had pretty much been declared the wild west. It was mostly self regulating. You went downstairs and you entered at your own risk. Threads got derailed but with a little patience you could find some real gems, both in terms of entertainment value and BB relevance. In a short span of time we all saw how precarious the balance had been here. The forum's quality was anchored by the fact that for all the nastiness and fighting that went on it was ultimately people who were fighting to maintain something they had a stake in building and along came idiots with no such scruples and all the freedom they needed to things up for everyone. That was when the forum crossed over from 'acquired taste' to 'unreadable'. Around that time I (and plenty others) all but stopped visiting the forum much less posting there and there was little to bring in any new posters except people who were into juvenile already. To use a National Geographic kind of analogy back in the day it was a like a highly compe ive ecosystem, which naturally leads to an overall survival of the fittest; fast enough to not get eaten, strong enough to catch your own meals, tough enough to last in the lean times. Guys like Kool and Luva were like a plague introduced to an ecosystem. The survivors aren't necessarily the best and brightest, rather only the ones with a genetic disposition to resist it. The only thing needed to last in the NBA forum was an ability and willingness to slog through an endless stream of unfunny schtick repeated over and over over and over.

    A few strategic pinkings restored the balance, but it's going to take some time to bounce back. And in the mean time, even with it being the offseason, I think what's hurting the NBA forum is a growing apathy towards the NBA itself. It's so easy to follow every detail of one's hometeam these days, but very little that is compelling about the league wide in terms of rivlaries or any sort of universally marketable superstar. Equally problematic is that demographically I think most of us in here cut our teeth on the NBA during at least part of Jordan's era and the story since then has been the NBA constantly tweaking the rules to make it less physical and easier to score, and thus distancing the game as it is now even further from that time, rather than connecting fans to whoever they are pimping as "THE NEXT JORDAN" every other year.
    Wasn't here for most of that but that was a great post.

  2. #102
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    Lots of reasons, hard to sort out which one carries the biggest burden. I think the whole process really got started with the Spurs 2007 championship. The years leading up to that pulled in a number of good Mavs, Suns, and Pistons fans. It also pulled in a lot of dumbass GNSF who seemed to think that having outsiders on a Spurs board was an affront to God. (FOUR RINGS, GOT!) Its a credit to the outsider fans who stuck around through the needless ringsmack. With that said it doesn't absolve them from their part in trolling right back in the ensuing seasons as the Spurs couldn't return to glory. I'm not saying they didn't deserve it, but that was where things started to lose their way IMO. Previously the trolls would come out in response to ty takes that were out place in the forum's generally high quality BB discussions. Around this time the trolling started to replace the BB discussion. If there was a time where this place might have been put on a leash it was then. I'm not saying that would have saved it. In all likelihood the reasons for letting it go were right; throwing a bunch of rules up wouldn't have done anything to stem the tide of GNSF idiots, while the non Spurs fans who enjoyed the NBA forum were there mostly for the lax moderation compared to other sites.

    Then the Lakers got relevant again and their trolls came at the exact worse time. By the time that the post Gasol trade Lakers were established in the league the NBA forum had pretty much been declared the wild west. It was mostly self regulating. You went downstairs and you entered at your own risk. Threads got derailed but with a little patience you could find some real gems, both in terms of entertainment value and BB relevance. In a short span of time we all saw how precarious the balance had been here. The forum's quality was anchored by the fact that for all the nastiness and fighting that went on it was ultimately people who were fighting to maintain something they had a stake in building and along came idiots with no such scruples and all the freedom they needed to things up for everyone. That was when the forum crossed over from 'acquired taste' to 'unreadable'. Around that time I (and plenty others) all but stopped visiting the forum much less posting there and there was little to bring in any new posters except people who were into juvenile already. To use a National Geographic kind of analogy back in the day it was a like a highly compe ive ecosystem, which naturally leads to an overall survival of the fittest; fast enough to not get eaten, strong enough to catch your own meals, tough enough to last in the lean times. Guys like Kool and Luva were like a plague introduced to an ecosystem. The survivors aren't necessarily the best and brightest, rather only the ones with a genetic disposition to resist it. The only thing needed to last in the NBA forum was an ability and willingness to slog through an endless stream of unfunny schtick repeated over and over over and over.

    A few strategic pinkings restored the balance, but it's going to take some time to bounce back. And in the mean time, even with it being the offseason, I think what's hurting the NBA forum is a growing apathy towards the NBA itself. It's so easy to follow every detail of one's hometeam these days, but very little that is compelling about the league wide in terms of rivlaries or any sort of universally marketable superstar. Equally problematic is that demographically I think most of us in here cut our teeth on the NBA during at least part of Jordan's era and the story since then has been the NBA constantly tweaking the rules to make it less physical and easier to score, and thus distancing the game as it is now even further from that time, rather than connecting fans to whoever they are pimping as "THE NEXT JORDAN" every other year.
    So basically the 3 headed trio of ruined it with their spam posting, no substance style and it's a good thing they're all either gone or castrated. I'll never understand why some of you weak minded ers constantly responded to them though, other than that I totally agree. I'd just add that it was also the influx of other ty posters who enabled kool etc, back in 2006 those threads of theirs would have just fell off the page with 0 responses.

  3. #103
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    Guys like Kool and Luva were like a plague introduced to an ecosystem.

    A few strategic pinkings restored the balance
    ^ not bad at all man... lemme just say my main goal from day 1 was to cause Chaos....you guys thought "yall" had it made in heaven when Timmy rang for his 4th and final ring...I remember the down years when I had to more or less take it..when it was Duncan 4> Kobe 3....but the Gasol trade and then the shovel pass to Artest made things right in the world......

    just like Kori restored balance of the delicate ST ecosystem with the dismantling of Kool and the legendary Luva and Cully so did Jim Buss with the signings of Nash and Dwight...all is again restored in Kool's world as Kool and Kobe continue their glorious march through history...

    and we do it with flair and humility

    We reign, reign, supreme, preme, dungeon, dungeon kings...***DJ scratch mix***....We reign, reign, supreme, preme, dungeon, dungeon kings

    Do you know what brings rats, mice, snakes up out they hole
    Koolaid-fire, spliced with rock-n-roll, indubitably, piper pied

    Now hold on my brother no, no, no, no, can't stop the stride...

  4. #104
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    So basically the 3 headed trio of ruined it with their spam posting, no substance style and it's a good thing they're all either gone or castrated. I'll never understand why some of you weak minded ers constantly responded to them though, other than that I totally agree. I'd just add that it was also the influx of other ty posters who enabled kool etc, back in 2006 those threads of theirs would have just fell off the page with 0 responses.
    Listen I'm usually a very humble guy...and I'd give the shirt off my back to my friends in need...and do donate to charity - Boys and Girls club, women shelters, and homeless shelters....I generally don't like bragging about the I own...but I make exceptions for frauds like you...you wish you could ball like me in real life...you couldn't roll in my circle if your mama and daddy sold all their possessions...and you've been the main one eating out the palm of my hand more than anyone on this site...crying like a ing to Kori every gotdam chance you get...running from people showing your ass left and right...what a got...and I put that that on your grandma...you a ing chump...

  5. #105
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    The NBA forum is entertaining during the regular season, tbh..last season was quality, from the trolling to the basketball talk IMO, an improvement over the previous few years..eliminating Culbear was a big step for the forum..

    The remaining flaws IMO..

    - The complainers don't take initiative in improving the forum..most of them don't talk basketball, they just scoff and whine, tbh..

    - Like DOK said, too many lame inside jokes..TOSB was never funny..Duncan vs. Kobe jokes have been played out for years..essentially, ty NBA forum posters took Culbear and Kool's gimmicks and ran with them..ironically, this coincided with their complaints about Culbear and Kool hurting the forum..these ty posters bantered with Culburn in every thread..arguing with Culbear was funny a few years ago, it lost it's luster last year..

    - Too many repe ive posters, tbh..similar to the previous point, they all have the same gimmicks and jokes..

    - Too many fan boys, tbh..posters that took Mav Krew jokes and repeat them..posters that are afraid to call out others, tbh..posters like jeebus, El Nono, Venti, tbh..DMC's ty posts while his tongue swirls Mavs>Spurs's balls, tbh..

    ty posters are prevalent on every forum, tbh, that isn't an issue..you'll have your Brazils and your AussieKurtFans on every forum, tbh..

  6. #106
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    SFIE's post was nice and all, but I don't recall this contributing to basketball discussion, tbh..

  7. #107
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Kori should've started the clean up with the welchers... too late now, though...

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  10. #110
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    Kori should've started the clean up with the welchers... too late now, though...

    there were several factors that determined if I paid...

    I was one computer click away from sending DPG his money when Cully finally threatened to withdraw his friendship if I did...Cully's friendship and advice meant more to me than paying DPG his money....then the Big Homie Luva jumped in and also gave me his thoughts on it and that pretty sealed the deal...

    Midget and DPG didn't help things by continuing their wild celebration and talking on the board talking about how they were gonna spend my money and basically trying to clown King Kool...

    To remain unnamed Spur fan kept sending me PM''s telling me that they knew for a fact (based on conversations they had) that DPG wasn't gonna pay me had he lost....

    and to top it all off DPG admitted that at the time of the bet he only had $300 measley lowsy ing dollars in his account

    So I was like this dude..he ain't getting from a if I had foodstamps he wouldn't get that either...as of right now I'm a proud mutha ing welsher

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    ^so since he's gone now anyway you can pay up, if u got it weak

  12. #112
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    Hi Kool - let it go.

  13. #113
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    ^so since he's gone now anyway you can pay up, if u got it weak
    shut the up before I slap your ass...




  14. #114
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    since you're such a big balla and you got no reason not to pay with cubby gone gon' head and flex on these hoes playa

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    Hi Kool - let it go.

    I'm just trying to clear my good name...DPG you forgive me for ing over you and not having an ounce of remorse about it... don't you?

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    since you're such a big balla and you got no reason not to pay with cubby gone gon' head and flex on these hoes playa

    Not one red cent...nary a red dime...that is set is stone...and yes I'm a balla...and even more so for not paying - It's like Kobe said about that Hoe in Colorado: "I didn't pay her because it would have been a sign of disrespect. Like I was treating her like a hooker" Same concept with DPG...lol

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    I don't think anything of you tbh...you would never pay and either way, I told you what the deal was when we bet.

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    lol broke ass donate 500 to kori for the new forum if you got it fake ass balla

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    I don't think anything of you tbh...you would never pay and either way, I told you what the deal was when we bet.

    ^ we both know that ain't true...listen I'm forever pinked and you're forever not getting paid...it sound like a fair deal to me...

  20. #120
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    Shhhh, girl.

  21. #121
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    HarlemHeat37 am I ty iyho

  22. #122
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    Sup Kool you tappin any new pussy

  23. #123
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    lol broke ass donate 500 to kori for the new forum if you got it fake ass balla

    So basically the 3 headed trio of ruined it with their spam posting, no substance style and it's a good thing they're all either gone or castrated. I'll never understand why some of you weak minded ers constantly responded to them though, other than that I totally agree. I'd just add that it was also the influx of other ty posters who enabled kool etc, back in 2006 those threads of theirs would have just fell off the page with 0 responses.
    ahhh touche....

    I'm not donating a red penny to Kori after she did me the way she did..both her and Timvp...I prayed for his ass when he was sick and now he want to act like a you know what... that...I don't appreciate that ...and anyway..this new ST interface is nothing but a consolation prize since the Spurs didn't sign any big name free agents...ohh wait they did throw 10 mill at TOSB... - lol

  24. #124
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Sup Kool you tappin any new pussy

    yep...A russian chic...it's good too...

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    Nah, you know you're top 5, tbh..

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