I'm thinking since the first championship. Is it Manu?
Since the first? Speedy Claxton, easily. Then probably Brent Barry, when he was used in that scenario. I know Manu is the de facto PG sometimes but I wouldn't count him. TJ Ford was great last season as well, when he was on the court. Beno played well in the beginning and slowly got worse, especially in the playoffs against full court pressure. The worst has to be Roger Mason, though
Claxton was sometimes better than Parker, tbh...
With as good a shooting team we have we really need a pass first point guard as a backup. I don't think a guy like Green would have gone cold if he had a pass first point guard looking for him. Even playing with Manu would have probably helped Green more. Parker can get assists but he doesn't make the players around him better. Parker gets assists because everybody on the team can shoot. A pass first PG gets players easy baskets when their struggling to help get their confidence going.
i dont think antonio daniels was bad was he?
AD was no more a PG than GHill was.
I'd have to go with Speedy, followed by Vaughn.
Speedy. He was phenomenal for about 3 months when we really needed him.
Mills may we get into that group though - kid has major upside. And he's from my home town!
Worst was easily Van Exel.
tony parker was speedy claxtons backup
Beno probably though the dude totally melts under pressure. George Hill has a better case but he will never be a true PG.
George Hill by far.
The legend of Speedy never ceases to amaze. Outside of the Finals, 2005 Beno > 2003 Speedy.
My order since 2003 judged by how well they performed their role:
2011 Hill
2010 Hill
2007 Vaughn
2005 Beno
2003 Speedy/Kerr
2012 Neal
2009 RMJ
2006 Beno/NVE
2004 Hart/Ward
2008 Hodgepodge
2007 Vaughn was a beast defender. 2008 Vaughn was old and Pop kept shuffling who backed up Parker. I still have nightmares of the Hornets trapping Manu as he brings the ball up the court and turns it over four times in a row. (That was the last time Manu was the actual backup point guard -- and for good reason. Great creator in the halfcourt but not who you want to bring the ball up the court.)
Do we even ring in 03' without Speedy being there to bail Parkers ass out? Who knows if TJ Ford wouldve stayed healthy, he mightve been able to do the same in the WCF and we might have one for the thumb right now. I knew as soon as he was out there was a good chance of it coming back to haunt us.
^ Kerr bailed out Claxton in Game 6 against the Mavs. That team, outside of Duncan, was all about going with who was hottest. Every other player got bailed out during the run. Holding it against Parker for only outplaying Kidd for half the Finals instead of the entire Finals is pretty tough when he was about 13 years old at the time.
Still Pop's best coaching job ever and top five in NBA history.
I agree, plus Tony was on the bench at key times in 03 and they would put in Speedy and even Kerr in game 6 etc. Tony was MIA in the big moments that year in later rounds it seemed (Sides game two which he almost won against NJ). Speedy was a key reason we won late, and LOL at TIMVP saying sides finals for Beno, well BENO went puss in the finals and had to sit, Barry got more time when Tony and him pussed out, PERIOD. Barry was the key ball handler alot, why is he not on a list there of the good at backup PG? I wonder why.Do we even ring in 03' without Speedy being there to bail Parkers ass out? Who knows if TJ Ford wouldve stayed healthy, he mightve been able to do the same in the WCF and we might have one for the thumb right now. I knew as soon as he was out there was a good chance of it coming back to haunt us.
How did Kerry bail out Claxton? You mean PARKER mainly who was on the bench and was the teams starter? Claxton had some key moments I remember in that run, Kerr had that game and game 5 against NJ at their house! How did Kerr bail out Claxton when he was not the starter nor supposed to be a key to the team? Tony was sitting again, yes he was young but dude dissapeared in BIG games regularly! BIGTIME.
Claxton did it when it mattered, tbh. There's always something to be said about that... see: Matt Bonner, RJ, Tony Parker, etc...
Youre an undercover TP apologist, timvpimp. If Kerr bailed out anyone it was Parker who IIRC didnt even play that entire 4th quarter vs the Mavs, unless you expected Speedy to contribute big every game then he couldnt be 'bailed out'. When do you blame Parker? Because you didnt blame him this past season either because according to you it wasnt his fault that he wasnt good enough to get us to the Finals.
Ah, I give up.
I Know TONY THE STARTER was on the bench in the late half of that game, the starter younger or not he was on the bench! Nobody expected Speedy to save the team! He played well when he had to and in stretches but Tony was the Starter! He routinely sat in big games in 03 and 05 because he could not handle the pressure, fact. I am a Tony fan as a Spurs fan but he pussed out alot Timvp! He would sit during key stretches and just seemed a mental midget against certain teams in crunch time, he would be on the bench cheering (Fact). Speedy had a bad game you say in game 6, okay Tony did too and was on the bench! One was a starter though and the other tried to spell him and then Pop went to Kerr for desperation! IT WORKED. Tony though was the starter.
Are you suggesting Speedy is the main reason the Spurs got dominated for 3 quarters that game or that Tony played a role in the comeback ?
If you didn't watch the game at the time, at least go back and read recaps so you can actually know what happened in that game. Go to Google, read how Game 6 played out, come back to the thread.
How did Tony do in that game? I am serious too TIMVP! Speedy might have had a bad game yes, but did he help us at all during the run when Tony stalled at times, YES YES! Kerr did it in this game, but if he bailed out SPEEDY then he bailed out TONY who was on the bench too right? I don't get your point here because our starter was on the bench late in game 6.If you didn't watch the game at the time, at least go back and read recaps so you can actually know what happened in that game. Go to Google, read how Game 6 played out, come back to the thread.
You know, don't want to put salt on the wound, but that Game 6 comeback started with that rookie Manu steal and dunk on RJ... Gino obviously always comes up with game-changing plays, unlike other dudes from France who shall remain nameless, tbh...
^I think hes talking about the Game 6 against Dallas tbh, although as usual Manu played a role in that comeback as well. Tony Parker had like cramps or some other made-up injury apparently, was so common to see him disappear that year that I completely forgot about it even though I do remember watching that game.
I guess a preseason is needed for everyone.
You got us on that one I guess. Dont see how that minimizes what Speedy did though, cause Tony disappeared plenty that year even if we exclude that game.
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