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  1. 10-11-2012 #76
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    Damn, Biden not pulling any punches
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    lol Afghan troops

    that 's gonna fold so in fast when everyone pulls out of there.
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    Biden is on the ropes, stuttering, stammering, slurring his words, repeating them. He is 69. God bless
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    The math guy just would not answer a math question.
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    Biden made a mistake with the Afghan troops remark.
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  6. 10-11-2012 #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeebus
    lol Afghan troops

    that 's gonna fold so in fast when everyone pulls out of there.
    Who cares? That hole can go to ... I don't want any more money going to that black hole...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Sure you can... you can bet we're dropping 1000 bunker busters there before they get the bomb... as a matter of fact, that's happening regardless of who wins the election.
    i don't think that is an inevitability if Obama is re-elected...although, the Administration we can't completely control what a nutter like Netty will do...
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    Biden sets the tone for Obama's second debate.

    Things looking solid tbh.
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  9. 10-11-2012 #84
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    Love Biden's performance so far....
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    I wonder why she keeps going back to more foreign affairs questions. There are still plenty of domestic issues to discuss.
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    Ryan is flip-flopping like the best Kerry... Biden already taken him to the woodshed and now he's just having fun...
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    lol "we agree with 2014" followed by "we can't give them a date"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Who cares? That hole can go to ... I don't want any more money going to that black hole...
    I don't think anyone will care. It's gonna be like a nationwide Katrina over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Sure you can... you can bet we're dropping 1000 bunker busters there before they get the bomb... as a matter of fact, that's happening regardless of who wins the election.
    Sorry but nope. Number one, you can only bomb the places you KNOW of where they have facilities. And what if they put facilities in populated areas? What if they have facilities they don't know about? What are you going to do about the international reaction? What are you going to do when Iran EASILY shuts down Hormuz? You know what a simple artillery s will do to an oil tanker? Or mines deployed via sub/aircraft/artillery? What do you do when Iran sticks radioactive material on an ballistic missile?

    Iran may not have nukes yet, but it doesn't mean they don't have a position with some strong deterrents already.
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    He never answers the question!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
    Sorry but nope. Number one, you can only bomb the places you KNOW of where they have facilities. And what if they put facilities in populated areas? What if they have facilities they don't know about? What are you going to do about the international reaction? What are you going to do when Iran EASILY shuts down Hormuz? You know what a simple artillery s will do to an oil tanker? Or mines deployed via sub/aircraft/artillery? What do you do when Iran sticks radioactive material on an ballistic missile?
    I'm not saying I like it or I agree with it. But Iraq already set the tone to what unilareal action looks like. What's going to happen is they're going to bomb the out of what they know, and they'll keep bombing as they found out new .

    I'm not for any more military intervention in the ME, but I have zero doubt it's gonna happen *IF* Iran is pursuing the bomb.
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    uh oh. religion question. Time to vacate the forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeebus
    uh oh. religion question. Time to vacate the forums
    Ron bless
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    Ryan now allowing exceptions that he opposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ploto
    The math guy can't answer a math question.
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    Iraq and Iran are completely different military situations. It has absolutely nothing to do with unilateral action and everything to do with the strategic reality of Iran having the very easily ability of closing down the Persian Gulf. That was never an issue with Iraq. Iraq also never had the nuclear program Iran. Iraq's military was crippled after the gulf war. Thats not the case with Iran.

    I'm not saying I'm for it or against it I'm saying that the reality of the situation makes Iran pretty much impossible to attack unless both parties are FAR crazier than I thought. I know Obama isn't and I'm pretty god damn sure Romney isn't. You can't succeed at the mission from the air only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
    This debate is amazing. Best debate of my voting life? I think so. Best since Ross Perot was involved.
    Yea right. Liars vs Liars, tbh

    will be out of Afghanistan by 2014

    pretending that Obama won't be attacking Iran same as Mitt

    pathetic fake debate, tbh Amazed that you are so impressed with complete bull
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    Iran is a whole other animal from Iraq unfortunately. Iran has more support in the region. Saddam was very vulnerable. He had no friends in the region. Wasted most of his weaponery in the Iran/Iraq war. Sanctions decimated the country even more. And still, the Iraq war was brual for this country. Iran has major terrorist groups to launch on Isreal. They will get military support from Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and the Taliban. Russia will support them financially. It will get ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
    Iraq and Iran are completely different military situations. It has absolutely nothing to do with unilateral action and everything to do with the strategic reality of Iran having the very easily ability of closing down the Persian Gulf. That was never an issue with Iraq. Iraq also never had the nuclear program Iran. Iraq's military was crippled after the gulf war. Thats not the case with Iran.

    I'm not saying I'm for it or against it I'm saying that the reality of the situation makes Iran pretty much impossible to attack unless both parties are FAR crazier than I thought. I know Obama isn't and I'm pretty god damn sure Romney isn't. You can't succeed at the mission from the air only.
    What I mean about Iraq is that if the US says we're dropping bombs, China and Russia will then eat the sandwich... and I think you're underestimating Israel's influence in american politics... If there's anything concrete about Iran having a bomb, it's happening... I can't see it not happening.
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    I haven't watched any of the debate but my Facebook feed is almost unanimously upset that Biden is being immature and the moderator is showing favoritism towards Biden. Based on that, I'm assuming Biden is winning. True?
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