Seafood Raised on Animal Feces Approved for US Consumers

[FuzzyLumpkins]

oh yeah, dumbass. Read your own link. They eat the salmonella and it grow in their gut and they salmonella. the salmonella grows in their guts and usually gives them diarrhea. Some cows even grow and salmonella without showing any symptoms. It doesn't cross over to the meat.



Can't believe you are so ing stupid that while arguing with me you posted a link that proved my point....

You had just gotten through telling me about the milk and consuming it. Do they milk too? it's not restricted to the intestinal tract.

Now let's include quotes from the paper to demonstrate my point.

Pharmacodynamic properties – tissue penetration, intracellular effect
Will antibiotics make a difference? In adult cattle, antibiotics may improve recovery and lessen the severity of the disease but will likely extend the duration of shedding. Calves and young stock are expecially prone to becoming bacteremic, but subtherapeutic use of antibiotics in the milk replacer may actually make the disease worse.
Disseminated, invasive or systemic disease (how do you tell?)
Severe clinical signs of endotoxemia : fever, tachycardia, tachypnea, scleral injection, weakness, ruminal stasis, leukopenia (early), and leukocytosis (later), frequently with a left shift

Death in some animals

Pneumonia, polyarthritis Post mortem findings are not restricted to dilation, edema and hemorrhage of the bowel and mesenteric lymph node enlargement. There may be enlargement of the spleen, renal infarcts and gallbladder inflammation. Ecchymotic hemorrhages throughout the carcass and pneumonia may also be present
Antibiotics are not likely to affect the carrier state.

Of course it starts there because you eat it. OTOH when it blooms it doesn't just stay there. You are familiar at least in a general sense with how the intestines operate. It's a semipermeable membrane. You have a serious infection and some of it gets through.

That's why in the paper it tells to clean the feces, SALIVA, BLOOD, AND MILK.

Now perhaps with you there is a direct line from your ter to your mouth but the pathogen gets into the blood, saliva, and milk at the very least. Fish are not going to have the same controllability either. If you farm up a few thousand how are you going to tell the ones that are salmonella ridden with any thoroughness?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Like I care what some low life wanna be internet bully thinks of me!...

You are funny even though you are painfully stupid.

I didn't say it because I was trying to bully you. If you feel bullied quit being a snatch patch. What i was doing was responding to your 'bullying' about my ability to read. i can read just fine i do not take you at your word so you cannot just say something and expect me to buy your bull . It is what it is.

What's painful is the same brain talking about milk contamination later saying that it's restricted to the intestine. That is a clear indication of a lack of critical thinking skills. You can draw your own conclusions as to how that speaks of your intelligence. Again it is what it is.

You sell infected animals for food and i think that's ed up. I can see though why you wouldn't have a problem with this is. As long as youre getting yours right?

[ElNono]

Then properly cook your food.

Okay, chef

[DMC]

Hey, you finally caught a mistake I made!

Good for you!

Why do you ask if a fish is something you don't even understand? Stop pretending to know about every topic under the sun, because when you respond without a Wiki search, you expose yourself. I know sashimi quite well and I would never pretend to know the difference between a sashimi grade fish and a non sashimi grade fish since most of it entails it's handling just before and after death, and the fat content of the meat.

[Wild Cobra]

Most, but not all.

Did I ever tell anyone here that I have a daughter that has managed a Sushi Restaurant for about 10 years?

[CosmicCowboy]

I didn't say it because I was trying to bully you. If you feel bullied quit being a snatch patch. What i was doing was responding to your 'bullying' about my ability to read. i can read just fine i do not take you at your word so you cannot just say something and expect me to buy your bull . It is what it is.

What's painful is the same brain talking about milk contamination later saying that it's restricted to the intestine. That is a clear indication of a lack of critical thinking skills. You can draw your own conclusions as to how that speaks of your intelligence. Again it is what it is.

You sell infected animals for food and i think that's ed up. I can see though why you wouldn't have a problem with this is. As long as youre getting yours right?

We were talking about meat, not milk . I already explained the milk part to you dumbass.

And BTW I'm not in the cattle business except for personal consumption so GFY.

[ElNono]

Why do you ask if a fish is something you don't even understand? Stop pretending to know about every topic under the sun, because when you respond without a Wiki search, you expose yourself. I know sashimi quite well and I would never pretend to know the difference between a sashimi grade fish and a non sashimi grade fish since most of it entails it's handling just before and after death, and the fat content of the meat.

Did he tell you he has a daughter that managed a Sushi Restaurant, therefore he's well versed in sushimi? crofl

[Wild Cobra]

Did he tell you he has a daughter that managed a Sushi Restaurant, therefore he's well versed in sushimi? crofl

OK, do tell then. How am I wrong?

[DMC]

OK, do tell then. How am I wrong?

Since you don't know the difference between sushini and sashimi, it's a safe bet you are wrong.

[DMC]

Most, but not all.

Did I ever tell anyone here that I have a daughter that has managed a Sushi Restaurant for about 10 years?

So you have knowledge through what, induction, osmosis... genetic transference via telepathy.... what? How does it matter that your daughter manages a restaurant in terms of your knowledge of the cuisine and it's preparations and origins?

I mean, is she a sushi chef? My wife manages a diagnostic clinic, does that mean I know medicine enough to debate a medical doctor? No.

[Wild Cobra]

Can you tell me the significance of fish that has been frozen for a week vs. fish that has not been frozen, for making sushi?

[DMC]

Can you tell me the significance of fish that has been frozen for a week vs. fish that has not been frozen, for making sushi?

I could but what's the point? Are we going to Google battle? You don't even need fish for sushi.

Killing of parasites, sure, but I eat it while it's moving.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol idiots with the high moral ground, doesnt matter where ur seafood came from...cause theirs a chance in the chain

wont eat fish fed with feces, what u think ur eating when eating a fish caught from the ocean where u goto every coastline u see sewege pipes dumping into the ocean?

plants already fed with animal from compost soil....

[Wild Cobra]

I could but what's the point? Are we going to Google battle? You don't even need fish for sushi.

Killing of parasites, sure, but I eat it while it's moving.

Good.

Then you probably also know that the freezing makes the lean fish loose its firmness. To buy the quality of trusted unfrozen product gets expensive.

[ElNono]

My cousin reviews videogames professionally... therefore my expertise on computer keyboards is unmatched!

[Wild Cobra]

So I ask again:

Anyone selling sashimi quality fish from these farms?

[DMC]

Tilapia are nasty fish. They are used to clean ponds and keep s from forming around power plant intakes (as well as hydrilla and other aquatic, invasive species that could clog cooling intakes). They taste good, but they consume just about anything. In comparison, crappie will not eat pig . They will up the minnows that will however so the problem moves along.

[DMC]

So I ask again:

If you're eating Tilapia sashimi, you're already eating . In fact, any US freshwater fish short of salmon are poor choices for sashimi.

[DMC]

Good.

Then you probably also know that the freezing makes the lean fish loose its firmness. To buy the quality of trusted unfrozen product gets expensive.

And your point is what exactly? Even frozen product is expensive. Since when did price enter the discussion?

[Wild Cobra]

Tilapia are nasty fish. They are used to clean ponds and keep s from forming around power plant intakes (as well as hydrilla and other aquatic, invasive species that could clog cooling intakes). They taste good, but they consume just about anything. In comparison, crappie will not eat pig . They will up the minnows that will however so the problem moves along.

And if you cook you fish correctly, why does this matter?

[Wild Cobra]

And your point is what exactly? Even frozen product is expensive. Since when did price enter the discussion?

Because you cannot just take any fish and make sushi out of it. Even the cheaper places that buy the frozen products to kill the parasites need to buy fish that was raised in clean conditions, because freezing doesn't kill the bacteria.

If the fish raised in these conditions were sold as sashimi quality, that would probably be illegal.

[DMC]

Because you cannot just take any fish and make sushi out of it. Even the cheaper places that buy the frozen products to kill the parasites need to buy fish that was raised in clean conditions, because freezing doesn't kill the bacteria.

If the fish raised in these conditions were sold as sashimi quality, that would probably be illegal.

Good lord. Most sashimi grade (not sushi grade) fish is caught in the wild. It's not how it's raised because no one knows, but it's how it's caught, killed and handled afterward. It has to do with avoiding trauma to the fish that causes the fish to release chemicals that changes the taste of the meat. It's how the fish it brought aboard. It's how the fish is graded at the dock. There are many factors but eventually it's how it tastes.

Again, there are little to no freshwater fish being harvested for sashimi, certainly not Tilapia and I sure as wouldn't eat it.

Stop equivocating sushi with sashimi. One is a roll of rice and veggies with a hint of fish (commonly, other than nigiri) and the other is slices of basically raw fish on a plate.

[Wild Cobra]

Good lord. Most sashimi grade (not sushi grade) fish is caught in the wild. It's not how it's raised because no one knows, but it's how it's caught, killed and handled afterward. It has to do with avoiding trauma to the fish that causes the fish to release chemicals that changes the taste of the meat. It's how the fish it brought aboard. It's how the fish is graded at the dock. There are many factors but eventually it's how it tastes.

Again, there are little to no freshwater fish being harvested for sashimi, certainly not Tilapia and I sure as wouldn't eat it.

Stop equivocating sushi with sashimi. One is a roll of rice and veggies with a hint of fish (commonly, other than nigiri) and the other is slices of basically raw fish on a plate.

And my point was that these farm grown fish would not be used, hence little concern since it will be cooked.

[baseline bum]

Wait, I thought sushini was the one you threw in boiling water for a second or two.

[Wild Cobra]

Stop equivocating sushi with sashimi. One is a roll of rice and veggies with a hint of fish (commonly, other than nigiri) and the other is slices of basically raw fish on a plate.

Still, it's the same fish...