Would you trade Parker for Rondo?

[szkorhetz]

Personally, I would. Better defender, better play making skills, I would love to have him.

[Drz]

The question of which of those two is better has been out there for a long time, and I think it's pretty obvious that they're extremely close in ability. Rondo has better speed and athleticism, while Parker is a better shooter and turns it over less often.

Since ability is so close, I'd stay with Parker, simply because he knows the Spurs system. Also, Rondo has the reputation of being a whiny bee-atch and not loved in the Boston clubhouse... not sure if it's true, but it's not the sort of thing I'd want to take a chance on.

[spurraider21]

Tony is the perfect fit for our team right now but I'd take that trade in a heartbeat cause rondo is younger, more athletic, and is still getting better

[timvp]

No. San Antonio's chances of winning a championship revolve around their chemistry. Messing with that chemistry for someone who might not even be an upgrade would be dumb.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i do that trade in a heart beat, we get younger and he also passes alot which is a + in my book...

problem is his scoring, but we dont need that since we have so many offensive weapons on the team

rondo has outplayed parker every h2h

lol timvp using the chemistry excuse, when the big 3 form in boston for the first year...didnt stop them from makn the finals..

[baseline bum]

lol timvp using the chemistry excuse, when the big 3 form in boston for the first year...didnt stop them from makn the finals..

Dude, that was five years ago when Pierce, Garnett, and Allen were still in their respective primes.

[spurraider21]

I agree with timvp that Parker gives us our best chance to win with this squad. But dealing for rondo would set us up for the future. Rondo and kawhi would be nasty in the same lineup

[capek]

Yes. San Antonio's chances of winning a championship revolve around their defense. Not going after a player would could potentially provide a significant boost to our perimeter defense would be dumb.

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[therealtruth]

Rondo is actually a better fit. Who would you expect to help get easy baskets for guys who are struggling with their shots like DG was during WCF? That says it all. Also Rondo is a much better defender. TP's strength is his offense but that is much less useful on a team with as many shooters as the Spurs. It's the shooters who should be taking most of the shots. Rondo would make sure everyone got plenty of shots. Heck he might even make Bonner useful in the playoffs. Also nothing helps chemistry better than playing good defense and getting guys good shots, things Rondo excels at.

[spurraider21]

Rondo is actually a better fit. Who would you expect to help get easy baskets for guys who are struggling with their shots like DG was during WCF? That says it all. Also Rondo is a much better defender. TP's strength is his offense but that is much less useful on a team with as many shooters as the Spurs. It's the shooters who should be taking most of the shots. Rondo would make sure everyone got plenty of shots. Heck he might even make Bonner useful in the playoffs. Also nothing helps chemistry better than playing good defense and getting guys good shots, things Rondo excels at.

It's not like green wasn't getting good open looks. He was just cold. Magic could have given those passes. He wwas missing good open shots. Keep in mind our offense/team is built on pick and roll. Rondo ccan't pull up like tiny nor can he hit free throws

[therealtruth]

It's not like green wasn't getting good open looks. He was just cold. Magic could have given those passes. He wwas missing good open shots. Keep in mind our offense/team is built on pick and roll. Rondo ccan't pull up like tiny nor can he hit free throws

Sometimes you have to get easier baskets if you're struggling with your shot. You see it all the time. A player is struggling and then he gets a easy basket or layup and he finally finds his shot. What changed? The player's confidence level. The easy basket increased his confidence. The point guard has to be able to figure out ways to get guys confidence going if they are struggling.

[ElNono]

Yes

[Juggity]

Actually, it's a tougher call than it looks on first glance. Rondo is kind of a bad seed/team cancer. He forced Ray Allen out of Boston.

His pass-first/defensive game is great, and if that were the only basis for evaluation, I'd do the trade without hesitation.

But I have a feeling Rondo is the type that might get frustrated with Pop or anyone telling him what to do.

[TDMVPDPOY]

parker giving us a chance to win hahahahahaha what happen last season, beating a scrub in devin harris, beating a injured fat kid, gettin exposed by the frog he called out b4 the series....

[Kidd K]

Would not trade Parker for Rondo. The Spurs have a good offense, but Tony Parker is a key piece in it. I'm not ready to dump a guy who's been a 10 year fixture on the team and helped bring 3 les to the town for a guy I've always felt is overrated. Honestly, starting Point Guard is the one position I have zero complaints about whatsoever. He's the most reliable (still good) player on the team. Last dude I want to trade. Even for Rondo. Rondo's extra few assists doesn't make up for the loss of offensive punch that the other Spurs have been playing off of anyway.

parker giving us a chance to win hahahahahaha what happen last season, beating a scrub in devin harris, beating a injured fat kid, gettin exposed by the frog he called out b4 the series....

How'd Parker get exposed?

He held Westbrook to 18 PPG/37% shooting for the series. 7.3 APG, 3.3 TOs/game

Parker put up 21.5 PPG/48% shooting for the series. 6.3 APG, 3 TOs/game


Parker handled him. Nothing got "exposed". You're just only remembering Parker's 2 mediocre games and forgetting the good ones. Westbrook only had 2 good games and of those 2 good games, Parker had an even better game than Westbrook and OKC was 1-1 in those 2 games.

Parker made Westbrook, the supposed "better PG", the inferior PG. He gave the Spurs an edge at PG. Stop playing revisionist historian because he didn't completely destroy him. Parker still out-played Westbrook.

[sananspursfan21]

agreed with timvp, no way would i wanna trade away any of the core. team chemistry is incredible and it's going to be the only thing that gives the spurs a chance for a championship this year. at this point, it would be foolish to trade any of our top 5-6 guys. All that ball movement and cuts and knowing where everybody's going to be on the court was the biggest success last year and will be this year, and it was a result of strong team chemistry

[Drz]

A few of you seem to be underestimating how important Tony's offense is. The offense isn't just about "getting it to the shooters," it's also about (and more about in my opinion) having a player who can slash to the rim. Parker is far better at that than Rondo.

[therealtruth]

Would not trade Parker for Rondo. The Spurs have a good offense, but Tony Parker is a key piece in it. I'm not ready to dump a guy who's been a 10 year fixture on the team and helped bring 3 les to the town for a guy I've always felt is overrated. Honestly, starting Point Guard is the one position I have zero complaints about whatsoever. He's the most reliable (still good) player on the team. Last dude I want to trade. Even for Rondo. Rondo's extra few assists doesn't make up for the loss of offensive punch that the other Spurs have been playing off of anyway.




How'd Parker get exposed?

He held Westbrook to 18 PPG/37% shooting for the series. 7.3 APG, 3.3 TOs/game

Parker put up 21.5 PPG/48% shooting for the series. 6.3 APG, 3 TOs/game


Parker handled him. Nothing got "exposed". You're just only remembering Parker's 2 mediocre games and forgetting the good ones. Westbrook only had 2 good games and of those 2 good games, Parker had an even better game than Westbrook and OKC was 1-1 in those 2 games.

Parker made Westbrook, the supposed "better PG", the inferior PG. He gave the Spurs an edge at PG. Stop playing revisionist historian because he didn't completely destroy him. Parker still out-played Westbrook.

That's not a fair comparison. Westbrook was the second best on his team. Parker was the MVP of the team. You can't seriously be comparing an MVP's performance to someone who is the second best on his team? Parker slightly outplaying their second best player, which is debatable, was not going to get it done for us. If anything Westbrook played more of a PG role. He distributed the ball and got out of the way so his teammates could do their thing. Parker's scoring wasn't enough to make up for the scoring drop-off from his teammates and his passing/distribution wasn't good enough to get them going either.

[elemento]

C'mon Westbrook played more of a PG role because 1 more apg? Westbrook was the same dumb player in the SA series. The same moronic plays and the same bad shot selection.

The difference was the fact that SA had nobody to stop Durant/Harden and their bench actually stepped up for the challenge. For SA, the only bench player that played well was Jack.

It's pretty clear that Parker struggled after OKC put Sefolosha on him and after the OKC started to switch the P&R, but to put everything on Parker's back in simply wrong.

Matt Bonner in the RS - 6.6ppg / 3.3rpg FG 44% 3P 42%
Matt Bonner in OKC series - 0.8ppg / 1.8rpg FG 11.1% 3P 14.3%

Danny Green in the RS - 9.1ppg / 3.5rpg FG 44.2% 3P 43.6%
Danny Green in the OKC series - 3.3ppg / 2.2rpg FG 25.8% 3P 17.4%

Can we really blame Parker for this kind of choking job ? And they got a lot of open looks and still couldn't deliver.

You guys hate Parker too much.

[Obstructed_View]

The sound on the other end of the phone is Danny Ainge's laughter.

[racm]

Would not trade Parker for Rondo. The Spurs have a good offense, but Tony Parker is a key piece in it. I'm not ready to dump a guy who's been a 10 year fixture on the team and helped bring 3 les to the town for a guy I've always felt is overrated. Honestly, starting Point Guard is the one position I have zero complaints about whatsoever. He's the most reliable (still good) player on the team. Last dude I want to trade. Even for Rondo. Rondo's extra few assists doesn't make up for the loss of offensive punch that the other Spurs have been playing off of anyway.




How'd Parker get exposed?

He held Westbrook to 18 PPG/37% shooting for the series. 7.3 APG, 3.3 TOs/game

Parker put up 21.5 PPG/48% shooting for the series. 6.3 APG, 3 TOs/game


Parker handled him. Nothing got "exposed". You're just only remembering Parker's 2 mediocre games and forgetting the good ones. Westbrook only had 2 good games and of those 2 good games, Parker had an even better game than Westbrook and OKC was 1-1 in those 2 games.

Parker made Westbrook, the supposed "better PG", the inferior PG. He gave the Spurs an edge at PG. Stop playing revisionist historian because he didn't completely destroy him. Parker still out-played Westbrook.

True, it was Durant, Harden, and Ibaka/Collison playing out of their minds who beat up the Spurs. And the games weren't really decisive wins for either team save game 3.

[szkorhetz]

The sound on the other end of the phone is Danny Ainge's laughter.

With RayRay out of house, the C's would very welcome the scoring what Parker could bring. I would love the defense and ball distribution of Rondo.
But, yeah. I wouldn't trade Rondo for Parker, even if that the Celtics have got no future. The only promising young player they have is Bradley. So Parker would give them a chance to run at the le, and then full rebuild which is very much necessary in Boston, while the Spurs is locked in for another 5-6 years in the playoffs no matter if the PG is Parker or Rondo.

[Raven]

I would trade him.. He's younger and is both the best passer in the league and the best defender at the pg.. That should be enough, in the cluth just give the ball to manu.

[racm]

Rondo hasn't helmed an efficient offense, ever. The best offense the Celtics had was in their 2008 championship season, where they had a top 10 offense. The Spurs were amazing on both ends in all of their championship runs.

[spurspokesman]

The sound on the other end of the phone is Danny Ainge's laughter.

With some other team calling.