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    I'm all in!! First requirements: clean porcelain gods, plenty of TP and bathroom deo.
    and an atomic absorption spectrophotometer, just for giggles imo.

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    They are checking everything that comes in, just not in the manner you're thinking of or familiar with.
    Does this high-tech scan see the quality of food inside?

    Does it see well shielded items?

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    My concern is with fish that potentially includes things such as salmonella with it. These are farmed fish. It's not like their diet cannot be controlled.

    But thanks for confirming you can't really tell them apart.
    I don't know if it's a labeling standard or not, but I do see labeling on fish packages that says if it was farmed or wild. I never buy the farmed fish the times I buy it.

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    We were talking about meat, not milk . I already explained the milk part to you dumbass.

    And BTW I'm not in the cattle business except for personal consumption so GFY.
    So it gets into the blood, milk, saliva and but it doesn't get anything else? I am curious that red stuff that comes out of my steak, what is that? is that milk?

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    Automation Technician. (Parts Changer.) Worked on the same equipment I helped build. I quite IPEC and I took a job I thought would be stable at LSI Logic in Gresham OR. The buyer I interfaced with offered me a job there.
    So whats your SS#?

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    Does this high-tech scan see the quality of food inside?

    Does it see well shielded items?
    No and Yes.

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    Sounds like a cool piece of equipment. Are there specs available on the internet, or is it too proprietary?

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    Sounds like a cool piece of equipment. Are there specs available on the internet, or is it too proprietary?
    Specs were available before the internet tbh.

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    Specs were available before the internet tbh.
    I would be curious to look it up. What's it called?

    Excuse my ignorance. How does it pick up alpha decay from a well shielded radioactive compound?

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    I would be curious to look it up. What's it called?

    Excuse my ignorance. How does it pick up alpha decay from a well shielded radioactive compound?
    I'm surprised that you're going this route Professor of All.

    I think we both know that the requirement would be for some other form of detection.

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    I'm surprised that you're going this route Professor of All.

    I think we both know that the requirement would be for some other form of detection.
    I never claimed to know everything. You shouldn't believe what others say.

    Am I to take it that it wouldn't detect well shielded Plutonium?

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    ^ you don't know everything but google does and we don't know how to use google so we really appreciate you bringing those stuffs here which we would've never found out via google in our own efforts

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    ^ you don't know everything but google does and we don't know how to use google so we really appreciate you bringing those stuffs here which we would've never found out via google in our own efforts
    Do you have any idea, just how much information on the internet is false?

    If you believe everything on the internet, I have this for you:

    Run Your Car On Tap Water!

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    I never claimed to know everything.


    Your statement will likely become a component of many signatures around here.

    Am I to take it that it wouldn't detect well shielded Plutonium?
    You're free to take it however you'd like.

    What does "well shielded" mean anyway? What would be required to accomplish that?

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    Your statement will likely become a component of many signatures around here.



    You're free to take it however you'd like.

    What does "well shielded" mean anyway? What would be required to accomplish that?
    In the case of plutonium, just enough to block the alpha emissions.

    I did some quick poking around with searches. There would be ways of hiding it from X-Ray and gamma detectors. I haw a mention of neutron detectors, but I just don't see 100% scanning being feasible. As you know, plutonium can be in a liquified form. I assume this is a chemical formulation of the plutonium, but for all I know, it may be a suspended colloid. What if this was used in place of oil someplace. Engine oil pan, hydraulic fluid, etc. Sure, a completed bomb could easily be found, but what about components?

    Maybe I'm just asking for too much?

    I will probably never believe that equipment can take the place of a physical inspection. You've heard the common saying I bet that when you think something is made idiot-proof, a better idiot is found. Same thing with technology. Criminals have a way of getting around the latest and greatest, sometimes easier, because too much faith is put on it.

    I must revise something though. A person would unlikely find replaced oil also.
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    Do you have any idea, just how much information on the internet is false?

    If you believe everything on the internet, I have this for you:

    Run Your Car On Tap Water!
    agree but how could u assure that everything you found from google and posted here was true rather than false? being a skeptic doesn't automatically make you a pro in everything imho, and if you wanna have a break from being harassed reading our posts, you may as well put us all on your ignore list together with the significance of education tbh

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    In the case of plutonium, just enough to block the alpha emissions.
    Well, just grab your morning newspaper tbh. If all you have is toilet paper, that would do as well.

    Tell me though, would blocking alphas suffice in this instance? (Hint: The answer is in the Princeton Lecture link below.....)

    I did some quick poking around with searches. There would be ways of hiding it from X-Ray and gamma detectors. I haw a mention of neutron detectors, but I just don't see 100% scanning being feasible.
    http://www.inl.gov/technicalpublicat...ts/3169917.pdf

    http://www.princeton.edu/~aglaser/le..._detection.pdf

    https://www.saic.com/products/security/#reveal

    selbstverständlich tbh


    Maybe I'm just asking for too much?
    Students have written about it as well:

    http://web.mit.edu/scresponse/reposi...is_June_08.pdf

    See the abstract.

    I will probably never believe that equipment can take the place of a physical inspection.
    Cost and time effectiveness is another can of worms that I'll leave to the economists. Suffice it to say the technology to carry this out exists and has existed for some time.

    A newer report:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R40154.pdf

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    agree but how could u assure that everything you found from google and posted here was true rather than false? being a skeptic doesn't automatically make you a pro in everything imho, and if you wanna have a break from being harassed reading our posts, you may as well put us all on your ignore list together with the significance of education tbh
    I never aromatically assume it is. Especially if it is politically motivated. Even the links I trust can be wrong. If you notice, I don't post very many links, and most are from universities, NASA, etc.

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    Please please please argue with him about particle physics.

    Look up beta decay on wikipedia and act like you have any ing clue what you are talking about.

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    Do you have any idea, just how much information on the internet is false?

    If you believe everything on the internet, I have this for you:

    Run Your Car On Tap Water!
    "I seldom google" -Cliff Claven

    Master of misdirection and doublespeak, you must use a different search engine. Just as when you stated "my daughter manages a sushi restaurant" and just a few posts later brushed off the insinuation that you somehow had an insiders knowledge of the industry. You drop these little innuendos and then you abandon them when someone corners you on them. Ever thought of just not trying to have others make connections that aren't even remotely true based on your name and experience dropping bull ?


    In the case of plutonium, just enough to block the alpha emissions.

    I did some quick poking around with searches. There would be ways of hiding it from X-Ray and gamma detectors. I haw a mention of neutron detectors, but I just don't see 100% scanning being feasible. As you know, plutonium can be in a liquified form. I assume this is a chemical formulation of the plutonium, but for all I know, it may be a suspended colloid. What if this was used in place of oil someplace. Engine oil pan, hydraulic fluid, etc. Sure, a completed bomb could easily be found, but what about components?

    Maybe I'm just asking for too much?

    I will probably never believe that equipment can take the place of a physical inspection. You've heard the common saying I bet that when you think something is made idiot-proof, a better idiot is found. Same thing with technology. Criminals have a way of getting around the latest and greatest, sometimes easier, because too much faith is put on it.

    I must revise something though. A person would unlikely find replaced oil also.
    lol "as far as I know"

    Straight from Wiki

    "Colloids have been suspected for the long-range transport of plutonium on the Nevada Nuclear Test Site."

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    Please please please argue with him about particle physics.

    Look up beta decay on wikipedia and act like you have any ing clue what you are talking about.
    He will, but he'll try to be coy about it and reword it and drop it as a "remote possibility that I've come across in my equations". Never mind that the article he read states it specifically and gives equations.

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    DMC...

    You must really be butthurt to make such idiotic assumption.

    In CMP, silicon colloids are often used. I did not look that up. Believe as you wish, but your assumptions make you look stupid when you imply them as fact.

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    DMC...

    You must really be butthurt to make such idiotic assumption.

    In CMP, silicon colloids are often used. I did not look that up. Believe as you wish, but your assumptions make you look stupid when you imply them as fact.
    Right. You mean slurry. It's called slurry. It might be a colloid but then so is ferrofluid yet you don't hear ferrofluidics being called "colloids" in the industry. "Hey Brad, do you think that colloid seal is leaking?" "Hey Mark, did you change out that silicon colloid drum today?"

    I will let the forum be the judge, but I think you peeked.

    Oh, and you're the one who's admittedly pissed thus your long ass line by line response above. I am just serving you up what you ordered.

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    Tell me though, would blocking alphas suffice in this instance? (Hint: The answer is in the Princeton Lecture link below.....)
    I take it there are also neutron emissions. Not just alpha particles. Neutron detectors used to be huge. How small are they now?

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