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Dude...WVU lost to TT in Lubbock...
Don't over react to what we saw today, TT was a perfect spot to do what they did.
Now WV coming off a loss, now at home vs a solid Kansas State team.
Let's break it down....
How do the Wildcats do on the road a second week on a row? Let's go back three years.
2009..lost to UCLA
2010..lost to both Baylor and Colorado
2011..beat Kansas
As we can see they aren't exactly juggernauts in that role.
How does WV do coming off a loss now at home since 2009?
They have been in that "spot" five times in the last three years. They have always won the next game.
Can Kansas State win back to back on the road with that second game being a great WV team coming off a loss......nope!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by Avante; 10-14-2012 at 12:05 AM.
Dude...WVU lost to TT in Lubbock...
son West Virgina got exposed for the average team that they are and how fitting is it that the team they played last week (Texas) got exposed today as well. neither of them are legit teams.
At first glance I like K-State because they can physically pound WVU. They faced a much better defense in Iowa St compared to what WVU's defense. I could see Klein having a huge game. Also K-State has a very good defense as well and they will be very physical against WVU's offense. Back-to-back road games are tough, but obviously they've already won at OU this year plus they have way more momentum compared to WVU. I like K-State because they are the better team in general and they have more momentum than WVU.
I know, where did I say any different? I went into depth about WV and that double road in another thread here.
I got it...
Now WV coming off a loss at home vs a solid Kansas State team.
You misunderstood. Read it knowing I know where the game was played.
Wrong!
What we saw was two teams that left it all on the field a week ago. Both were flatter than a pancake this week. You've heard the term.."trap game"...we saw some of that. Actually we see it all the time.
So you see the Wildcats favored in the game?
am i missing something? I thought you said WVU is coming off a loss at home. didn't you? They just lost on the road to TT. K State just won on the road against Iowa
I've had a few, but not that many
Favored? I dont think so. It think it will be like 3 for WVU which is basically a pick em. But I do think K-State would be favored by 5+ on a neutral field.
yet
K State should have no problem with WVU, but only a fool would bet on that one.
somebody ing tell me if I was reading Avante wrong...If i'm re ed, I'll say so
I assumed since I went into detail over the situation that WV was in this week, being back to back on the road vs a home and home TT team that nobody could possibly think I thought the game was played at WV. How could you think that?
It was...
WV coming off a loss at home vs a Kansas State team.
I guess it should have been.. off a loss, now at home...
Just so you know, I will never ever not know where these teams are playing.
Go ahead man, why do you think that? Elaborate.
I think you're getting caught up in the moment. Don't ignore what history has told us about the "spot" these teams are in next week.
WV doesn't lose home games coming off a loss and KState doesn't win back to back on the road very often.
Agreed. I would never bet on that game.
Okay...but now all the stats you threw out are pointless... I agree in general with your argument, but you should double check before you post is all i'm saying
I would be inclined to take the Mountaineers at home as well...regardless of spread... Of course, I don't bet on anything, even though I was 100% (assuming an aggy victory) today in the SEC
Its not about history. Its about matchups. WVU doesn't matchup well at all with K-State. K-State is so much more physical on offense and defense. Klein is gonna have a big game. WVU can't stop him and K-State's defense is much better than WVU. Plus, K-State has the momentum. They've gone to Norman already and won. That gives them enough confidence going to WVU.
I gave TT a great shot at winning this game today based on the same type of numbers/logic I'm using in the WV vs KState game next week. You do not ignore the numbers, histories, trends and stats, if you think they mean nothing you'd be 100% wrong.
Geno Smith was the second coming, can you say...HEISMAN!!!!!!!! The guy could walk on water. What happened?
What happened was he was a very difficult "spot".
Last edited by Avante; 10-13-2012 at 11:56 PM.
Notre Dame was a 21 point favorite over Stanford. What happened?
Good teams coming off a loss now back at home vs a team on the road again, trust me WV has the advantage here.
The rain in the Notre Dame slowed them down. It was brutal weather and it always neutralizes the better team. Plus, Notre Dame's offense isn't that great either.
Besides, what does the Notre Dame game have to do with this?
WVU will be favored at home against K-State, but its a game I wouldn't bet on. K-State is a better team and they dominate finesse teams like WVU with their style of play.
I used the ND game to show how far off perception can be. If anyone was hurt by the rain it was Stanford and it was obvious.
Don't keep telling me that KState is the better team, you don't know that. Not that that is all that important when we have two good teams, it's more about the "spot" they are in that week. Case in point WV losing to TT. Home/road is huge, as is coming off a loss.
Last edited by Avante; 10-14-2012 at 12:07 AM.
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