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    Boring = 4 Rings SA210's Avatar
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    Instead of all that other nonsense..


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    Jill Stein is my gal. I will be watching, thanks.

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    I was hoping that they would do something like this.

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    Wow, our third party candidates blow chunks this year, tbh.... Gitmo Gary, Jeebo Goode, Socialist Stein....

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    So you are telling me that they are candidates who represent a very large difference from each other? That is usually a good thing for those who would like to choose.

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    Wow, our third party candidates blow chunks this year, tbh.... Gitmo Gary, Jeebo Goode, Socialist Stein....
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Jill_Stein.htm

    Fascinating website.

    By most measures, Jill is what most in the country would call a socialist, including a lot I don't fully back.

    Anything better than the libertarian candidates though, imo.

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    You would love Gitmo Gary, he's all for "humanitarian" wars, subsidies, and oppressive taxation, sounds like the left to me....

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    Spoiler Alert! G.O.P. Fighting Libertarian's Spot on the Ballot

    When he was running for the Republican presidential nomination last year, Gary Johnson, the former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico, drew ridicule from mainstream party members as he advocated legalized marijuana and a 43 percent cut in military spending.

    Now campaigning as the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee, Mr. Johnson is still only a blip in the polls. But he is on the ballot in every state except Michigan and Oklahoma, enjoys the support of a few small "super PACs" and is trying to tap into the same grass-roots enthusiasm that helped build Representative Ron Paul a big following. And with polls showing the race between President Obama and Mitt Romney to be tight, Mr. Johnson's once-fellow Republicans are no longer laughing.

    Around the country, Republican operatives have been making moves to keep Mr. Johnson from becoming their version of Ralph Nader, the Green Party candidate whose relatively modest support cut into Al Gore's 2000 vote arguably enough to help hand the decisive states of Ohio and Florida to George W. Bush.

    The fear of Mr. Johnson's tipping the outcome in an important state may explain why an aide to Mr. Romney ran what was effectively a surveillance operation into Mr. Johnson's efforts over the summer to qualify for the ballot at the Iowa State Fair, providing witnesses to testify in a lawsuit to block him that ultimately fizzled.

    Libertarians suspect it is why Republican state officials in Michigan blocked Mr. Johnson from the ballot after he filed proper paperwork three minutes after his filing deadline.

    And it is why Republicans in Pennsylvania hired a private detective to investigate his ballot drive in Philadelphia, appearing at the homes of paid canvassers and, in some cases, flashing an F.B.I. badge - he was a retired agent - while asking to review the pe ions they gathered at $1 a signature, according to testimony in the case and interviews.

    The challenge in Pennsylvania, brought by state Republican Party officials who suspected that Democrats were secretly helping the effort to get Mr. Johnson on the ballot, was shot down in court last week, bringing to 48 the number of states where Mr. Johnson will compete on Nov. 6.

    Reince Priebus, the national Republican Party chairman, has called Mr. Johnson a "nonfactor." And Danny Diaz, a spokesman for the Romney campaign, said that its entire focus was on beating Mr. Obama and that "voters understand the stakes are high, and if they want to change the trajectory of this country, they'll vote for Romney."

    But Robert Gleason, the Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman, vowing that the state will become far more compe ive for Mr. Romney than Democrats realize, said he was not about to give Mr. Johnson an easy opening to play a Nader to Mr. Romney's Gore in Pennsylvania this year.


    "This election will be close - if you remember, Bush lost by only something like 143,000 votes in 2004," said Mr. Gleason, noting that his party has managed to disqualify tens of thousands of Libertarian signatures. "So we play the game hard here."

    Both sides agree that Mr. Johnson, whose pro-marijuana legalization and antiwar stances may appeal to the youth vote and whose antigovernment, anti-spending proposals may appeal to conservative fiscal hawks - and to supporters of Mr. Paul - has the potential to draw from both Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/us/politics/gary-johnson-the-libertarian-partys-presidential-nominee-worries-republicans.xml;jsessionid=C3C21D25A17FE3C3AF6D8FF 25A64CE3F?f=19

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    You would love Gitmo Gary, he's all for "humanitarian" wars, subsidies, and oppressive taxation, sounds like the left to me....

    your definition of the left sounds su iously like the right

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    both ends meet not only at the extremes, but somewhere in the vast, gooey middle.

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    Bump

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    Y'all have fun at the sprint car track while the adults watch the NASCAR race at the tri-oval.

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    Yay, sports metaphor!

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    I'm hearing about Poverty in this debate..what an idea..why didn't the democrats think of that..

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    The murdering of innocent civilians by drones gets talked about..who'd a thunk it.
    The first 20 minutes have covered more REAL info than all of bs red team/blue teams debates put together

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    NDAA, illegal wars lol All topics missing from Repub/Dem debates and only 30 minutes in

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    Gary Johnson: "repeal Patriot Act, never would have signed NDAA, bring all troops home tomorrow, marriage equality, end war on drugs!"

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    Jill Stein: "Dropping bombs on innocent civilians and weddings and funerals is not a way of winning over the hearts and minds of people in the Middle East"

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    Jill Stein: "free higher public education for everyone"

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    NDAA question...lol

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    Rocky Anderson: "NDAA the most Anti-American bill passed"
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    Next debate is next Tuesday. Obama and Romney wouldn't last 10 minutes with these people lol

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    Gary Johnson: "repeal Patriot Act, never would have signed NDAA, bring all troops home tomorrow, marriage equality, end war on drugs!"
    Nice pla udes from Gary, but it's very easy to find what his real views are, tbh....

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