Bill Nye slams creationism

[mouse]

The books specifically state that it is a theory.

I take you don't read many Science books. The first line is "12 Billion" years ago..........."25 million" years ago Dinosaurs....

are you going to make me post screen shots of Text books?

We can prove it by measuring the speed of light by what we can see with telescopes. We are seeing the light from stars that origionated 10-14 billion years ago. We know the speed of light. Its mesurable. Read: DATA

Data! from where? Another book you saw online? Look vato just because "you" don't question science and is happy with what ever book you read or link you find on Google doesn't make it 100% "true"

But after all it is your right to do so as you sit on your fishing boat sipping on uncle Jeds moonshine, just keep in mind many people like myself don't buy it.

As far as Darwinism is concerned, no one has come up with a better explanation ,

For who, you?
That comment alone proves my point your just another kick back redneck that doesn't want to have to think much just sit back and accept what it's says on dat der tee vee.

I'm not trying to belittle you in fact I wish I could live in your town of mayberry USA. but I have a news flash for you and Aunt Bee you didn't evolve from a rock as Science claims.

based on factual findings,

post those findings? Did Geraldo Rivera find the missing link? What channel was it on i hoped you TVO'd it I want to see it. Please tell Aunt Bee not to erase just to make room for her best of QVC show I am having problems finding the show on youtube! Can you post a link to where I can see this latest discovery?

thanks.

thats why it is widely accepted...

Slavery was widely accepted also.

the proof is piled on every day

then get off your Dale Earnhardt NASCAR shaped sofa and post some.

if you would just look at it while taking your jesus glasses off.

I remembered now why I don't debate you.
you really don't read my original postings "I don't support the bible"

Talking about Evolution and age of earth is hard enough with MIT students and professors having to do it with a drunk redneck is painful.

[mouse]

Now lets address your cute drawing that sold you on how the moon got here...



First off its from a amateur astrologer who calls himself Rob in fact his website is called Rob's Astrophotography

The guy is just another rich kid with a high powered telescope that can take pictures and has a blog / website and he wants to tell me how the moon was formed?



dude put down the pork skins and find some real science links and get back to me.

http://www.astro-photography.net/For...-the-Moon.html


he clearly states.

Collisional Ejection Theory

psssssst! there is a reason people use that word "theory"

[redzero]

mouse, disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is just as bad as blindly accepting everything.

[mouse]

mouse, disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is just as bad as blindly accepting everything.

pssssst! just a heads up.....your Sig kinda tells people something about you hence "your" signature.

So if you can't change it to something else you find amusing and it's still there more than a week tells people a little more about you.

A: That you still think its the greatest gif you every seen.

B:The gif of a guy waving his junk just has you excited and memorized your to visually paralyzed to look away.

or

C: You actually think there are posters that haven't seen it yet and the ones who have would get upset if you removed it after a few weeks.



I am going with B:

[redzero]

Cool non-response. You're getting awfully salty about my sig, so I think I'll keep it for a while longer.

[mouse]

It just makes it hard to waste my knowledge on a subject with someone with your attention span I am not in any way disagreeing with your metro sexual beliefs.

You can be Bisexual and still debate Evolution it's your sig I thought wasn't fresh. Nothing personal.

[mouse]

data suggest there is SOMETHING out there beyond the sight of our scopes.

The Oort cloud is a "theory" you cant use it as proof where comets come from. it's Science's "get out of jail" card.

They had to come up with a reason we still have comets if they are a result of the big bang "12 Billion" years ago. The oldest comet according to science is 10,000 to 15,000 years of age they burn out. they ed up and didn't do the math so they covered they're tracks with the bull Oort cloud.

Who knew the uninformed redneck of the Club would finally pull out the Oort Cloud card?

there is SOMETHING out there .

Like a creator? You can't have it both ways dude.

if there is "something" we don't know that could be out there than Science needs to leave the door open for "something" else besides a huge ape like missing link type man that evolved from a snail.

for tat

[redzero]

It just makes it hard to waste my knowledge on a subject

Since when did being able to copy and paste from creationist websites, cons ute knowledge?

As was demonstrated when you tried to scoff the scientific explanation behind elements, you rely entirely on other people's arguments and are incapable of coming up with any of your own.

[mouse]

Since when did being able to copy and paste from creationist websites, cons ute knowledge?

since the world wide web was created? I give up, when?

As was demonstrated when you tried to scoff the scientific explanation behind elements, you rely entirely on other people's arguments and are incapable of coming up with any of your own.

When I write a book or work in a Science lab I will.

[Agloco]

When I write a book or work in a Science lab I will.

And after you wake up from that dream it will be time for you to hit the graveyard shift at the local Wal-Mart parking lot.

Must be hard texting all of your bull while trying to steer the golf cart.

[mouse]

And after you wake up from that dream it will be time for you to hit the graveyard shift at the local Wal-Mart parking lot.

Must be hard texting all of your bull while trying to steer the golf cart.

So true ha ha! how long did you work at Walmart also?

I knew we had something in common. So a "live" debate is out of the question?

[phyzik]

I take you don't read many Science books. The first line is "12 Billion" years ago..........."25 million" years ago Dinosaurs....

are you going to make me post screen shots of Text books?

Go ahead, I DARE you to post a public school book that literally states it as hard fact. Dont post one line, post the whole section. Im talking textbook in schools, not some you pull off a shelf in Barnes and Noble... I Want to see you post an actual text book from school that states it as fact.

Hint: you wont find it.

Data! from where? Another book you saw online? Look vato just because "you" don't question science and is happy with what ever book you read or link you find on Google doesn't make it 100% "true"

But after all it is your right to do so as you sit on your fishing boat sipping on uncle Jeds moonshine, just keep in mind many people like myself don't buy it.

Are you seriously debating the speed of light? You just lost all credibility Mouse. It's a mesurable unit of time/space=Distance. The speed of light is not some made up like a jewish zombie who is his own son.

For who, you?
That comment alone proves my point your just another kick back redneck that doesn't want to have to think much just sit back and accept what it's says on dat der tee vee.

I'm not trying to belittle you in fact I wish I could live in your town of mayberry USA. but I have a news flash for you and Aunt Bee you didn't evolve from a rock as Science claims.

You obviously STILL do not understand the science of evolution. At least study it, just a little bit, before you debunk it with your rock=man theories.

post those findings? Did Geraldo Rivera find the missing link? What channel was it on i hoped you TVO'd it I want to see it. Please tell Aunt Bee not to erase just to make room for her best of QVC show I am having problems finding the show on youtube! Can you post a link to where I can see this latest discovery?

thanks.

Seriously? This has been posted MANY TIMES in your other wack-job posts from your other trolls. The fossil evidence is OVERWHELMING!!!

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...ossil-evidence

Slavery was widely accepted also.

Yeah, The Earth was flat and the universe revolved around Earth. All proven wrong by Science. We have EVOLVED past that. Whats your point?

then get off your Dale Earnhardt NASCAR shaped sofa and post some.

Seriously Mouse? Seriously? I dont have the time to go through the countless posts where you have been proven wrong with empirical data time and time again. You just choose to ignore it. Why should I even bother? All you have to do is google it if you care to read it.

Also, NASCAR is ing gay. I have never watched that more than 15 minutes in my entire life and those 15 minutes only include news stories about rednecks crashing into eachother. NASCAR is the modern human way of getting rid of the idiots from the gene pool. You should become a NASCAR driver.

I remembered now why I don't debate you.
you really don't read my original postings "I don't support the bible"

Talking about Evolution and age of earth is hard enough with MIT students and professors having to do it with a drunk redneck is painful.

You sure do make a very convincing case contrary to that position. Besides that, I actually WORK in a scientific environment. Southwest Research Ins ute.... What do you do? washed up never-was comedian and wanna-be computer tech? I KNOW Im right because I see the real data every day at work. You, on the other hand, think that black van passing by your house is the government keeping an eye on you because you think you know something. LOL.

I used to have a customer that thought the same way you did about 14 years ago when I worked for Texas.net... She believed the government was after her (literally, she would call asking if her e-mail account was hacked by the government and then would accuse us of conspiring with them), her e-mail address is [email protected]. I just checked on google, it looks to still be active. her website has since been taken down (with all the same conspiracy bull you post) but if you google that e-mail address it still shows up. You two should hook up and compile your conspiracy data. You might even get a piece.

Bottom line, we all REALISTS post peer reviewed data from respected physicist's, Astrophysicist, bioligists, anthro'pologist, geologist's and many other countless respected scientists in the world.... All you have is a transperant theory based off of fantasy science because its what you want to believe regardless of scientifically verifiable facts.

[redzero]

since the world wide web was created? I give up, when?

Nope. Sorry, it doesn't work like that.

When I write a book or work in a Science lab I will.

If you ever write a book on the matter, you would lift all your arguments from somebody else, not cite your sources, and be sued for plagiarism.

[RandomGuy]

Now lets address your cute drawing that sold you on how the moon got here...



First off its from a amateur astrologer who calls himself Rob in fact his website is called Rob's Astrophotography

[RandomGuy]

Let's imagine a jar, filled with jelly beans, about as big as a loaf of bread you might buy in a store.

Without taking them out and counting them, what kinds of observations could you make about how many jelly beans are in the jar, mouse?

(this question goes very directly to what you are saying about scientists being "unsure")

When did I claim to be a Science professor? I am merely pointing out facts that you and your bow tie wearing Science pals at Myth busters have no answers for.
If I off base prove me wrong don't attack my credibility it has nothing to do with Saturn.

First off I would find out when Glass was invented. That would give me an idea how old the jar isn't. Then by finding out what the jar weighs w/o the jellybeans and then weighing the jar with the jelly beans I would just subtract the two numbers and come up with a close enough measurement

Ok, so you would use weight. Take the weight of the jellybeans divided by the weight of one jelly bean, to get a number of jelly beans.

1) Would the number of jelly beans that you calculated from this experiment be 100% guaranteed to be correct? Why or why not?

2) Why is this method better than simply randomly guessing a number between one and a trillion? Randomly guessing would also get a number of jelly beans.

[skips answering].

Again, my two questions here were rather basic, and go directly to the point you are attempting to make about scientists' claims. If you could answer them, we can get to a very important idea, that we can both probably agree on.

[RandomGuy]

Ok, so you would use weight. Take the weight of the jellybeans divided by the weight of one jelly bean, to get a number of jelly beans.

1) Would the number of jelly beans that you calculated from this experiment be 100% guaranteed to be correct? Why or why not?

2) Why is this method better than simply randomly guessing a number between one and a trillion? Randomly guessing would also get a number of jelly beans.



Again, my two questions here were rather basic, and go directly to the point you are attempting to make about scientists' claims. If you could answer them, we can get to a very important idea, that we can both probably agree on.

I will give mouse one more chance to actually answer this most important of questions. Then I will simply have to assume he is unwilling or incapable of answering it, for whatever reason.

I suspect mouse does not answer it, because he understands the implication of an honest answer, and would prefer to play troll. Either he answers it honestly, and I get him to admit something that directly sinks his "case", or he lies/ignores, and proves he is lying/ignoring real attempts at getting to his arguments. I win either way.

[Blake]

I will give mouse one more chance

Are you sure you can keep it at just one?

[RandomGuy]

Are you sure you can keep it at just one?

Yup. One last time. I am pretty sure he is ignoring me, but even he deserves some small benefit of the doubt. Lots of long, interspersed replies. He *might* have missed it.

[mouse]

Hey RandomLie how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? be careful how you answer this question your whole credibility on Evolution will be ruined.

You want to use jelly beans and basic math to try and prove to someone man Evolved form an Ape go right ahead.

I will just keep posting facts Evolution is a lie and let the readers decide for themselves. If you want to talk candy experiments go right ahead I am to busy in two other topics with "real" debaters who ask "real" questions.

Even if i gave you the correct answer it still doesn't prove Darwin was right or the earth is "4 billion" years old.

As for my good buddy Phyzix since you seem to be able to keep your insults in check and since I know deep down inside your not an idiot I will devote a few hours of my limited time in education you on a subject your very misinformed in.

First off when i get home tonight i will post over 5-10 Science and biology books found in the schools today. feel free to Google these books and trace what schools they are in. I am shocked you have no idea the science and Biology school books say the Earth "is" 4 Billion years old and the solar system "is" 12 - 20 Billion years old. They don't say long long ago dinosaurs roamed the earth they say "25 Million" years ago.

The books even say how long the earth took to cool down for life to form. Can you imagine how insane you would have to be to even say in a text book what life was like on planet earth 50,000 years ago? And yet these clowns claim they know what happened "12 billion" years ago?

If you really think a few Fossils and your misguided links are going to help you win this debate your seriously mistaken.


I will address all your points then i will ask you a few questions and expect the same.

[mouse]

These texts books are in the public schools today feel free to Google them or find a school student and ask to see what Biology or Science book they are using.



I really have nothing to hide, I am actually here to help "Expose" the lies in the School texts books.

[mouse]

More books

[mouse]

A few more.....

[mouse]

Did you know the population of the Earth does not mathematically match up to when Science claims man Evolved form a primate?

Population growth, today the earth's population doubles every 50 years. If we assumed only half of the current growth rate and start with one couple, it would take less than 4,000 years to achieve today's population. These are topics the Evolutionist avoid.


many of you have no idea where the Big bang theory came from.

[mouse]

Seriously? This has been posted MANY TIMES in your other wack-job posts from your other trolls. The fossil evidence is OVERWHELMING!!!

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...ossil-evidence

Do you have any clue how long it takes for Fossilization to occur?

Can you believe your tax dollars are funding this horse ?

From nothing came something.

[mouse]

As late as the 90s Science really had no idea about the big bang theory they support and kept changing the bull .