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    Funniest question of the night: Explain how you are not George W Bush. Bush probably cried into his pillow.

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    It's a funny concept but then when you're directed to the Obama site it's the same BOOGA BOOGA THEY'RE GONNA TAX YOU scare tactics that the Republicans use.

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    It's a funny concept but then when you're directed to the Obama site it's the same BOOGA BOOGA THEY'RE GONNA TAX YOU scare tactics that the Republicans use.
    of course you're directed there iit says on the site the democratic national committee paid for it

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    Funniest question of the night: Explain how you are not George W Bush. Bush probably cried into his pillow.
    It was jarring to actually hear his name mentioned.

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    of course you're directed there iit says on the site the democratic national committee paid for it
    I'm not sure you followed what I was saying.

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    How did Bush get voted in twice..

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    How did Bush get voted in twice..
    the green party and the gays

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    You beat me to it.

    Romney is "hope and change" for Republicans.

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    Of course it's by the DNC. they are just claiming Romney does what they are experts at.

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    Of course it's by the DNC. they are just claiming Romney does what they are experts at.
    Since you appear to have the details, give you analysis that refutes all the pros who says Gecko/Ryan's tax plan is pure bull .

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    Since you appear to have the details, give you analysis that refutes all the pros who says Gecko/Ryan's tax plan is pure bull .
    How about just asking what the democrats tax plan is?

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    same question, same answer for both: rosy assumptions and magical thinking.

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    How about just asking what the democrats tax plan is?
    let expire dubya tax cuts for $250K+ (as if those people pay 35% now, they won't pay 39% after expiration). Any more questions?

    How about your answers on how Gecko/Ryan tax plan will NOT increase the deficit

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    let expire dubya tax cuts for $250K+ (as if those people pay 35% now, they won't pay 39% after expiration). Any more questions?

    How about your answers on how Gecko/Ryan tax plan will NOT increase the deficit
    Then why isn't the legislation passed yet? Right now, we are looking at all of us paying the old marginal rates. no more 10% rate... will go to 15% for the tax paying poor. My marginal rate will change from 25% to 28%.

    Everyone will be paying that extra 2% from their gross pay as the 2% SS relief rate expires.

    Why haven't democrats done anything yet?
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 10-17-2012 at 09:02 AM.

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    Then why isn't the legislation passed yet? Right now, we are looking at all of us paying the old marginal rates. no more 10% rate... will go to 15% for the tax paying poor. My marginal rate will change from 255 to 28%.

    Everyone will be paying that extra 2% from their gross pay as the 2% SS relief rate expires.

    Why haven't democrats done anything yet?
    Didnt the democrats want to break out the tax into two separate votes so that they could vote on extending tax cuts for those making under 250k and those makin over 250k, but the effort was blocked by republicans?

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    Didnt the democrats want to break out the tax into two separate votes so that they could vote on extending tax cuts for those making under 250k and those makin over 250k, but the effort was blocked by republicans?
    Isn't that a bit like voting on who is going to buy the car, then another vote on who's going to drive it?

    It's an all or nothing package. Why do you allow the demonrats to play games?

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    Then why isn't the legislation passed yet? Right now, we are looking at all of us paying the old marginal rates. no more 10% rate... will go to 15% for the tax paying poor. My marginal rate will change from 25% to 28%.

    Everyone will be paying that extra 2% from their gross pay as the 2% SS relief rate expires.

    Why haven't democrats done anything yet?
    because Norquist has bullied and intimidated the less Repugs into NEVER increasing taxes.

    Rolling back all financial regs and taxes/deductions to 1980 would kill the deficit quickly and make banking boring again.

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    Isn't that a bit like voting on who is going to buy the car, then another vote on who's going to drive it?

    It's an all or nothing package. Why do you allow the demonrats to play games?
    why does it have to be an all or nothing package? Right now, people making >250 can afford to have the cut expire as is the current law, whereas letting it expire on people making less than 250k would be too much of a fiscal drag on the economy. Everyone agrees the tax should be extended on people making less that 250k, so why not split out the vote?

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    because Norquist has bullied and intimidated the less Repugs into NEVER increasing taxes.

    Rolling back all financial regs and taxes/deductions to 1980 would kill the deficit quickly and make banking boring again.
    Any sudden change of increased tax rates will have a damaging effect on the economy.

    We cannot keep SS rates at 4.2%. They need to go back up, and higher than what they were. Not suddenly though. Maybe 0.2% per quarter. there is no need to raise the marginal tax rates on any income class. The gain in revenue is an illusion. It doesn't change capital gains rates, and the really rich only get paid a small amount of their money as ordinary income. You will only affect people like movie stars, athletes, etc. It won't be much at all in the scheme of things.

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    "Any sudden change of increased tax rates will have a damaging effect on the economy."

    so which is it? the deficit IS or IS NOT a problem?

    SS contribs need to go back where they were and uncapped and applied to all income, not just earned income. Execs evading income/SS/Medicare taxes by being paid with stock is bull .



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