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It an intangible but The popular vote is always important when determining how strong a mandate or how much political capital the winne has, particularly if it's an in bent.
You're talking pretty extreme improbabilities. A Texan voting for president this election has no effect whatsoever. He can help change or strengthen the dominant political ideology over time, but not between now and November 6th. A Texan's presidential vote is completely meaningless for deciding who wins the state.
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It an intangible but The popular vote is always important when determining how strong a mandate or how much political capital the winne has, particularly if it's an in bent.
If frustrated independents in every predetermined state would vote for the third party candidate we might have more voices in the next election's debates. That wouldn't be a bad thing. But too many people are told a vote for neither of the two major parties is a wasted vote. Even if they're in a state where the victor is all but decided.
I don't see it without a cons utional amendment that stops the House from picking the president when there is a strong third party keeping any one candidate from reaching 270. Our cons ution is pretty effective at silencing dissent from the two parties in regards to presidential voting.
stupid, it isn't really a paradox at all. it's false premise is in assuming that each ticket won't win whenever you can't make that assumption.
You know... after thinking about it for a few minutes I can see a scenario where 3rd party presidential votes would be good. In our political climate there is no way in we wouldn't have large scale rioting following Congress choosing a president should there be no one hit 270. If congress is scared enough of getting overthrown I could see the Electoral college possibly being thrown out.
I can also see extremists like Sarah Palin being elected by a highly motivated 35% of extremists populous..many who still believe in birther and socialist crap....you can't have it both way gentlemen...kinda like what happened in Libya and Egypt...moderates get split...extremists get elected...
can ask why you fan of hornets when they not gon win , same premise wen you cheer fo loser or cheer fo blue in red state
An extremist like Palin was already elected to two terms under our current system from 2000-2008.
Can you imagine if 'said candidate' was appointed by a Conservative supreme court and not by popular vote or the dreaded electoral college...
There would be riots on the streets...
I'm not even really thinking about them actually having a chance at winning. But getting to participate in the debates and having more visibility would improve the conversation.
Son thank you for your very educated response.
Obama won the major urban areas (i.e., the largest county in Dallas, Austin, Houston, El Paso & San Antonio) and the hispanic vote. Texas will continue to become more urban and more hispanic, so it's really only a matter of time before Texas does turn blue.
In certain areas, enthusiasm for a presidential candidate can transform down-ticket races that wouldn't have been compe ive otherwise. Even if Obama doesn't carry Texas, it can still have an impact on local elections.
In two presidential election cycles, Texas will be a purple battle ground state. Whites are no longer a majority, only a plurality in the population.
That's like saying the GOP won't carry Harris Co. or Dallas Co. It's Bexar County for s sake.
Obama won Dallas, Harris and Travis.
ya sour that I point out som hypocracy in yo post? maybe you gotta rethink watya gon say next time
Yeah because just like women, you have the pulse of the minority vote.
It would turn so darn blue it's ridiculous, but that would only happen if say.. Mayor Castro someday ran for Pres..not that he would be any good. I'm just saying if he ran, Hispanics in Texas might just do what blacks did for Obama. Castro, with the help of Obama's cronies could pull off the scam..nobody was sold on Bill Richardson.
I voted Obama last election and I will vote for him again. For what he has done with the he was handed is beyond amazing.
yep, in the face of Repug reflexive, non-stop obstructionism (even to projects they proposed and supported in years past), that ACA got passed in nothing short of miraculous. And it was a huge advance for the 99%, which is why, among many reasons, the Repugs are against it.
Well if no one was sold on Richardson then it wouldnt be a scam for Castro.
Even if you ignored the Presidential race because your vote would appear to be irrelevant, wholly choosing not to vote would seem a ridiculous way to express that frustration, since the down-ballot races are: (1) much more likely to affect a person's daily life; and (2) subject -- mostly -- to local majorities.
Brother, he doubled the deficit when he said he would cut it in half. He knew what was "handed" to him and still he doubled it. That's amazing. God bless
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