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    I am trying to debunk one of your pieces of "evidence," but you don't seem like you actually want to talk about it.
    I need real Scientific evidence not your back alley "what if?" scenarios you come up with. I honestly don't have the time or wish to lower the debate bar to play your paper rock scissor games.


    I have a broken LCD on my iPhone wont be able to reply until tonight if I can get a signal on the work laptop. Anyone with a used 2g iPhone for 40-50 dollars let me know.

    This break in the debate should give the wannabee Scientist like DeadZero and Wild Coldbrain time to Google some serious comebacks..........

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

    "The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples. Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich minerals showed that some were in excess of a billion years old"

    Do you know how carbon dating works?

    If you did you would know Carbon dating is really only useful for organic matter that is less than 3 to 5,000 years old. Most people don’t know that but now you do!

    on a side note my reply was for redZero

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    I need real Scientific evidence not your back alley "what if?" scenarios you come up with.
    This is scientific evidence. It's based in history.

    I honestly don't have the time or wish to lower the debate bar to play your paper rock scissor games.
    How is answering simple questions lowering the debate bar?

    This break in the debate should give the wannabee Scientist like DeadZero and Wild Coldbrain time to Google some serious comebacks..........
    Sorry, I don't need to use google all the time like you do.

    Watching mouse make excuses like this is ing hilarious. He has no justification whatsoever for why he won't answer my question, yet he is still trying to claim that I am the one getting off subject.

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    Just thought I'd give you some evidence even if you'll discredit it. Enjoy your argument
    I welcome all who want to learn something about the earth they can't get in the public schools.

    Considering Scientist can't figure out how old the the Shroud of Turin is I wouldn't trust them with Dinosaur bones.

    http://www.innoval.com/C14/

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    Watching mouse make excuses like this is ing hilarious. He has no justification whatsoever for why he won't answer my question, yet he is still trying to claim that I am the one getting off subject.
    And yet you still refuse to brig any Scientific evidence to support your findings and have yet to debunk any of mine.

    You are a truly a waste of my time and vast knowledge on this subject.

    (keep in mind I knew that 5 pages ago)

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    And yet you still refuse to brig any Scientific evidence to support your findings
    You're doing everything in your power to ensure that that's the case by refusing to answer my questions.

    and have yet to debunk any of mine.
    You won't let me. I am asking you these questions because I intend to debunk your position, but for some reason unbeknownst to me, you refuse to answer my question.

    For the third time, what is one major thing a civilization would need to grow and prosper? I will try to debunk your position if you answer my questions.

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    For the third time, what is one major thing a civilization would need to grow and prosper? I will try to debunk your position if you answer my questions.
    I don't work for panned parenthood so your asking the wrong person, now do yo "have" and "evidence" man Evolved from a rock?


    If not I suggest you go find Wild Cobra in the politics forum.

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    ^ A completely nonsensical response.

    I'll change my question:

    mouse, if there is not enough food for a group of people, is that group likely to grow?

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    mouse, if there is not enough food for a group of people, is that group likely to grow?
    I don't work for the food bank so your asking the wrong person, now do yo "have" and "evidence" man Evolved from a rock?


    If not I suggest you go find Wild Cobra in the politics forum.

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    I don't work for the food bank so your asking the wrong person,
    Are you saying that you are so stupid that you do not know that food is crucial to the growth of population?

    now do yo "have" and "evidence" man Evolved from a rock?
    Where are you getting this from? Did I claim that I had evidence that man evolved from a rock? If so, link please.

    Mouse, can a society grow with insufficient resources? Yes or no?

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    And if you aren't knowledgeable in this area, why are you posting stuff about it as if they were absolute truths? You don't know enough about the subject, so how do you know that the stuff that you are posting is the truth?

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    And if you aren't knowledgeable in this area, why are you posting stuff about it as if they were absolute truths? You don't know enough about the subject, so how do you know that the stuff that you are posting is the truth?
    I researched it.

    Now can you prove man evolved from a lizard, or the Earth is "4 billion" years old?

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    I researched it.
    How do you know that creation.com is a credible source? Or do you automatically assume that every piece of "evidence" that conforms to your opinion is true?
    Last edited by redzero; 10-18-2012 at 12:11 AM.

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    Science books written decades ago say the Earth is "4 Billion" years old many Scientists today disagree.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/grow...lution-as-bunk

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    *dodges question*
    Again, how do you know that creation.com is a credible source? Or do you automatically assume that every piece of "evidence" that conforms to your opinion is true?

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    Again, how do you know that creation.com is a credible source? Or do you automatically assume that every piece of "evidence" that conforms to your opinion is true?
    I did the math.

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    I did the math.
    You really are that stupid.

    Mouse, if there were ten times as many people on earth tomorrow, would there be enough food and water for everybody?

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    List of Scientists who disagree with Evolution.

    Chemist John F. Ashton edited a book first published in 1999 with essays from 50 scientists describing why they believed in creationism.
    21 famous scientists, such as Johannes Kepler, Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, Carolus Linnaeus, Leonhard Euler, Michael Faraday, Charles Babbage, James Prescott Joule, Louis Pasteur, Kelvin, James Clerk Maxwell, and Wernher von Braun

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    List of Scientists who disagree with Evolution.

    Chemist John F. Ashton edited a book first published in 1999 with essays from 50 scientists describing why they believed in creationism.
    21 famous scientists, such as Johannes Kepler, Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton, Carolus Linnaeus, Leonhard Euler, Michael Faraday, Charles Babbage, James Prescott Joule, Louis Pasteur, Kelvin, James Clerk Maxwell, and Wernher von Braun

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    *dodges question again*
    Getting you to answer questions is likely pulling teeth.

    Again, if there were ten times as many people on earth tomorrow, would there be enough food and water for everybody?

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    Princeton theologian Charles Hodge, in his book Systematic Theology, Charles Hodge, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co, vol. 2, p. 15, argues that "First, it shocks the common sense of unsophisticated men to be told that the whale and the humming-bird, man and the mosquito, are derived from the same source... the system is thoroughly atheistic, and therefore cannot possibly stand."


    As reported by Newsweek: "By one count there are some 700 scientists with respectable academic credentials who give credence to creation-science, the general theory that complex life forms did not evolve but appeared 'abruptly'."Martz & McDaniel, p. 23

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    Straight out of the Science books


    Niagara falls
    It is said that the Earth was created 4,600 million years ago. Ever since that time, the forces of nature have been masterfully creating an artwork of ever changing landscape and seascape known as Niagara.

    Eons ago, the Niagara area the bottom of an ancient tropical salt water sea. Ancient specimens are being found today deep under the soils of Niagara that are still today found at the bottom of our great oceans.

    Approximately 65 million years ago at the end of the Cretaceous and the beginning of the Tertiary periods, scientists claim that a giant asteroid collided with the Earth in the area of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico. This collision resulted in a massive amount of debris being propelled into the atmosphere on a world wide scale which caused a catastrophic change in the climate and led to the extinction of the dinosaur and many other life forms.

    This event continues to be re-examined and debated and will continue to be debated well into the future, "however there is little doubt" (by who?) that the climate made a dramatic change to an era of the Ice Age.

    They actually teach this in schools



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    Scientific Facts:

    Not even RedZero can dispute

    Biological evidence

    DNA in "ancient" fossilsimg. DNA extracted from bacteria that are supposed to be 425 million years old brings into question that age, because DNA could not last more than thousands of years.

    Very limited variation in the DNA sequence on the human Y-chromosome around the worldimg is consistent with a recent origin of mankind, thousands not millions of years.

    Discontinuous fossil sequences. E.g. Coelacanthimg, Wollemi pineimg and various "index" fossils, which are present in supposedly ancient strata, missing in strata representing many millions of years since, but still living today. Such discontinuities speak against the interpretation of the rock formations as vast geological ages—how could Coelacanths have avoided being fossilized for 65 million years.

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    Straight out of the Science books


    Niagara falls
    It is said that the Earth was created 4,600 million years ago. Ever since that time, the forces of nature have been masterfully creating an artwork of ever changing landscape and seascape known as Niagara.

    Eons ago, the Niagara area the bottom of an ancient tropical salt water sea. Ancient specimens are being found today deep under the soils of Niagara that are still today found at the bottom of our great oceans.

    Approximately 65 million years ago at the end of the Cretaceous and the beginning of the Tertiary periods, scientists claim that a giant asteroid collided with the Earth in the area of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico. This collision resulted in a massive amount of debris being propelled into the atmosphere on a world wide scale which caused a catastrophic change in the climate and led to the extinction of the dinosaur and many other life forms.

    This event continues to be re-examined and debated and will continue to be debated well into the future, "however there is little doubt" (by who?) that the climate made a dramatic change to an era of the Ice Age.

    They actually teach this in schools
    What is your point and why are you refusing to answer my question?

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