Asteroid Dust could help Global Warming

[Wild Cobra]

lol @ primarly logarithmic response on radiative forcing. I'm not sure if you realize but you're not going to wow me with your googled vocabulary when you don't even use them in the proper manner. Try again.

Then maybe I didn't google it? What;'s wrong with what I said? I wasn't formally trained in these areas. I have admitted to improper use of terminology on several occasions. That does not mean my conceptual thinking is wrong.

Think.... for a moment.... think....

From Al Gore's presentation:



Stuff I plotted from SpectralCal data:



From RealClimate, flipped:



From the IPCCC:



Theses are sites I went to without googling for the information. Stuff I was already aware of.

[MannyIsGod]

You can keep posting out of context and it wont make a difference. The issue at hand here is your misunderstanding of how a model that takes the atmosphere and condenses it into one layer for purposes in showing a surface temp due to GHG does not need to account for water vapor or heat distribution within that layer. You can keep throwing logrithmic and graphs all over the places and it just proves that you don't understand what the you're talking about ti anyone with a clue. Keep going though, its entertaining.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I liked how he flipped the one graph so it would look like the other.

primarily

[Wild Cobra]

I simply pointed out that there are spectral perturbations which will definitely lead to discontinuities in the spectrum seen on earth. Stefan-Boltzmann is a definite integration of Plancks Law across all spectral frequencies and assumes no discontinuities. Additionally, it's not as simple as breaking the resulting spectrum down into separate expressions as those discontinuities must be dealt with differently at their respective limits. This is an immediately obvious issue, even to a physicist who studies these things just for fun. I'm quite certain that the research group didn't overlook it either.

Please explain how a solid matter that a large asteroid would hold will have these properties. I am completely unaware of this. Such a cloud will not be gaseous, as the solar winds would blow away any small particles and any gas.

To answer your question about "knife edge effects": I assume you mean edge diffraction? We may neglect this effect for A) Sufficiently small particles (ie dust) and B) We don't have a point source of photons. The sun isn't distant enough. In the lab, we'd use lasers which are narrowly diverging, with thin slits or objects to demonstrate those constructive and destructive patterns.

I am thinking in terms of microwave communications, which I was formally trained on. It probably is also called edge diffraction:



I cannot fathom this as having a meaningful impact. I was asking if that would be the effect, because it is all I can see plausible to your words.

What spectral differences would there be?

[Wild Cobra]

I liked how he flipped the one graph so it would look like the other.

I did that because it does...

One is transmission, the other is absorption. Add them together, and what do you get... That's why they look alike when one is flipped.

[Wild Cobra]

You can keep posting out of context and it wont make a difference. The issue at hand here is your misunderstanding of how a model that takes the atmosphere and condenses it into one layer for purposes in showing a surface temp due to GHG does not need to account for water vapor or heat distribution within that layer. You can keep throwing logrithmic and graphs all over the places and it just proves that you don't understand what the you're talking about ti anyone with a clue. Keep going though, its entertaining.

That's why it's wrong.

[ElNono]

In terms of the Asteroids videogame, which I was formally trained on, what are the the spectral differences?



AFAIK, the effects of asteroids can be greatly diminished by just simply shooting at them.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I did that because it does...

One is transmission, the other is absorption. Add them together, and what do you get... That's why they look alike when one is flipped.

A flipped graph of bull ?

[Wild Cobra]

In terms of the Asteroids videogame, which I was formally trained on, what are the the spectral differences?



AFAIK, the effects of asteroids can be greatly diminished by just simply shooting at them.

You are right.

Maybe I should launch MAME and play that game. One of my favorites in the 70's.

[Wild Cobra]

In terms of the Asteroids videogame, which I was formally trained on, what are the the spectral differences?



AFAIK, the effects of asteroids can be greatly diminished by just simply shooting at them.

[clambake]

did you feel some relief when she escaped?

[Wild Cobra]

Isn't this pretty:

[Latarian Milton]

just don't forget most stuffs you learned from high school are false tbh.

[MannyIsGod]

In terms of the Asteroids videogame, which I was formally trained on, what are the the spectral differences?



AFAIK, the effects of asteroids can be greatly diminished by just simply shooting at them.

LMAO!

[ElNono]

That's pretty funny, tbh... I'm actually one of the original MAME developers. You're welcome.

Not gonna ask where did you get the ROM from, you little pirate, you.

[Latarian Milton]

be careful tbh, WC has such a great CIA knowledge that he'll track your ass down and find out the precise address of your house based on the only info from the pic you posted, and he'll then show you how dangerous it is to post such a pic on the internet tbh.

[ElNono]

be careful tbh, WC has such a great CIA knowledge that he'll track your ass down and find out the precise address of your house based on the only info from the pic you posted, and he'll then show you how dangerous it is to post such a pic on the internet tbh.

[Latarian Milton]

Please explain how a solid matter that a large asteroid would hold will have these properties. I am completely unaware of this. Such a cloud will not be gaseous, as the solar winds would blow away any small particles and any gas.

but it won't blow away the general gravity which may also affect the travelling of light, i guess most high schools don't teach the general theory of relativity so it's no surprise such a knowledgeable person like you don't know it tbh

[MannyIsGod]

Its not even that complicated. Anyone ever seen a ing pane of glass?

[Wild Cobra]

Its not even that complicated. Anyone ever seen a ing pane of glass?

That's a solid material. An asteroid dust field isn't.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL