I don't think there is a championship game, they win there in.
Do they run the table and head to the NC game? It's looking like it. They finish the season with OSU, TCU, Baylor and Texas. They can probably beat whatever team comes out of the south in the Big 12 championship too.
They get exposed by Bama tbh though.
I don't think there is a championship game, they win there in.
Odds are against the Cats running the table still, but they're getting better by the week. Their 2 toughest games are past them, and the 2 toughest remaining of their last 5 are both in Manhattan. I dare to dream there, but there are no gimmes (other than KU) in this league.
As for getting "exposed" - it's not a big secret what KSU wants to do, play physical/disciplined football. They can certainly be beaten, any team left on Cats' schedule is capable of doing that in a one game setting. But if they could be "exposed" - it would have already happened.
There's no in way K State makes the le game over Oregon if Oregon manages to run the table.
Tbh, K-State deserves it over Oregon..... Oregon let a high school team score 30-something on them![]()
Assuming Oregon runs the table their schedule will have been WAAAY more impressive than K-State's schedule. Plus they'd actually make the national championship compe ive, K State will get waxed by either Florida or Alabama.
Didn't Oregon get stomped by LSU last year? What makes you think they have a better chance at whatever SEC team they would face in the NC?
I'd rather see what the Cats can do. Collin Klein is a bad mofo and their defense is stout. Snyder > chip kelly
Oregon lost 40-27 to LSU but if you wanna look at previous years they got closer to beating Auburn than any team has gotten to beating an SEC team in the NC in recent memory.
Their team is different this year mainly on defense. In previous years their defenses were massively undersized while this year it's got great size all around, especially with two 300+ lbs. D-tackles, something they didn't have against Auburn or LSU.
Big-12 fans pretending K-State is really good because it's the best team in their conference by default
Also keep in mind, if Oregon runs the table, it means they'll still have to gets win @ USC, vs. Stanford, @ Oregon State, and most likely another win against USC in the conference championship. If you compare that to K-State's remaining schedule, you're delusional if you think K-State has any chance to overtake Oregon if Oregon runs the table.
What's gonna be really interesting is where Notre Dame ends up ranked if it runs the table.
Oregon pretty much runs the same two plays over and over again, and it only looks good because hardly anyone plays defense in the PAC, tbh.... when Oregon has gone up against real defenses that were able to shut down the Ducks' run game, they've been exposed (see: Boise State, LSU, Auburn).... I see no reason why the same thing wouldn't happen to them against Bama or Florida, tbh....
Also, let's not be so quick to assume that Oregon won't choke as usual against USC and/or Oregon State, tbh....
My entire hypothetical assumes they don't choke against USC and/or OSU. I'm not saying that won't happen, but if it doesn't, then there's no way they won't get it over K State. With a freshman QB who could the bed at the wrong time, there's a good chance they don't run the table.
The 27 points they scored against LSU was more points than LSU gave up in any other game last year, so I guess it depends on how you define "shut down". Their QB this year is also a much better passer than Masoli or Thomas were so they're not as dependent on gimmicky running plays as they were. I guess it's not worth repeating since no one paid attention the first time, but their defense is also much better/bigger up front. LSU wouldn't be able to gash this Oregon team on the ground like they did last year.
Their game against Auburn was the closest any non-SEC team has gotten to winning a national championship in recent memory, so I'm also not sure how that game helps your argument. I'd still take Bama or Florida over them, but I think they'd have a much better chance than K-State.
LSU held Oregon to 95 rushing yards on 28 carries, the worst performance Oregon's ground game had all season, and the Ducks ended up losing by a margin that seems closer than the actual game, tbh.... take away their garbage-time scores in the 4th quarter and they lose 40-13, tbh....
Oregon's been out-rushed by Fresno State this year, so it's not like it's impossible, tbh...I guess it's not worth repeating since no one paid attention the first time, but their defense is also much better/bigger up front. LSU wouldn't be able to gash this Oregon team on the ground like they did last year.
I don't.... K-State has a better defense and a better quarterback, tbh...I'd still take Bama or Florida over them, but I think they'd have a much better chance than K-State.
Oregon's TD with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter to bring the game to 2 possessions (33-20) was a garbage time score? Keep revising history
Cool, Kansas State was out rushed by the Nrth T
xas Mean Green. Pointing out games against inferior teams that a team wins by a few possessions that it maybe should have won by a lot of possessions is a weak argument. Kansas State has had a cakewalk schedule outside of Oklahoma (
WVU) and its hardest remaining game is Texas Tech. If both teams run the table, there isn't a snowball's chance in K-State is ranked ahead of Oregon.
Oregon's defense is maybe slightly worse than K-State's defense while Oregon's QB has played great so far with more yards and TDs than Klein. No, he's not better than Klein, but he's a way better passer than Masoli or Thomas were and he makes Oregon's offense much more versatile than it was against Auburn, LSU, or Boise State.
Stanford lost to Washington/ND, but ND is forgivable given how strong they are this year. But beating them isn't anything special this year. Oregon State is good, but has still yet to play the toughest part of their schedule. USC is the best team that they would have to beat, and K State already beat OU, who is a better team than USC.
Oregon State is ranked ahead of OU yet you casually mention them as good. OU is ranked 1 spot ahead of USC, I'd say it's a toss up regarding which team is better. Your opinion of which teams are better isn't gonna matter to the BCS standings when the BCS standings disagree completely.
OSU hasn't played anyone yet.
If KSU goes undefeated they are in with there strength of schedule ..If Oregon wants in the NCG they better hope Bama loses cause no way there strength of schedule gets them past KSU.
Well they're ranked #8 and their schedule is pretty easy for the rest of the year with the exception of Oregon, so whether or not you agree, they'd be a victory that improves Oregon's BCS standings by a lot.
According to Sagarin's SOS rankings: Kansas State = 45th, Oregon = 58th
According to Cosgrove's SOS rankings: Kansas State = 13th, Oregon = 61st![]()
Oregon has only played 2 games away so far...still have away games at usc,cal, and oregon state..Well talk more bout this if Oregon can beat someone on the road other than unranked washington state and ASU.
Regardless of who plays who, I think the Pac and B12 have quietly had better teams and games this year than the SEC.
Not the Pac, but the B12 I'll grant you. Top to bottom the B12 is the best conference in the nation
You're wrong there. An undefeated Oregon has virtually zero chance of finishing with better SOS/computer rating than an undefeated KSU. They'd be relying on the human polls to push them out front (which could certainly happen).
With the way OU has played the past 3 weeks, if they beat ND (and I think they'll curb stomp the Irish) on Saturday, it's very possible they win out. K-State beating OU in Norman for the Sooners' only loss could easily be the most impressive win any team in the country has all season.
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