Obviously because they gave up a prolific scorer in Kevin Martin and an up and coming talent like Jeremy Lamb.
You tripping yo. I was talking about Wade and Harden - not KD - but my point remains: without FTAs neither one of them are any good. Do they deserve all of dem FTAs? Nope.
at you comparing an effort play (rebounding) to FTAs. You can't be seri
Because Harden isn't special & has been on a downward spiral since finals, he isn't a number 1 option/face of the franchise , Thunder get deeper & Rockets remain mediocre.
downward spiral?
No he's on the way up!
ty rockets remain ty.
With what assets?Sentiment is Josh Smith is next
Kevin Martin is a chucker and Lamb is Kevin Martin 2.0... plus, they already had a chucker in Westbrick...
I don't understand how Harden has become so underrated after his poor showing in the Finals. The guy is a damn good basketball player. There's no way Kevin Martin is anywhere near Harden's level.
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I know you were referring to Wade. What you think does or does not require effort means not a whit of difference as it pertains to what contributes to wins. Whether or not they do it by driving aggressively, tricking refs or because of 'star treatment' at the end of the day they are still getting to the line and hitting free throws. You just sound like you are rehashing from a Wade v Bryant argument.You tripping yo. I was talking about Wade and Harden - not KD - but my point remains: without FTAs neither one of them are any good. Do they deserve all of dem FTAs? Nope.
Those free throws count towards the final score and as such they contribute to the team winning. I am comparing things that correlate to wins.
Who out chucks who? Martin or westbrook? Should be interesting
Not sure. It could just be wishful thinking by different people but no one saw this deal coming either.
I agree that Martin isn't better then Harden, but depth is depth, Maynor is back, Lamb isn't bad & Martin doesn't have to be #1 option on a ty team like the Rockets anymore, Perry Jones will be solid. Thunder will be better IMO.
Harden just got exposed in the finals & wont be the same.
Use an emoticon for your lack of an argument.
I don't need to make an argument against stupidity guised as a baseless assertion.Use an emoticon for your lack of an argument.
Baseless, I'm basing this off finals, Olympics, & preseason play (say what you want but failing to score against scrubs isn't a sign of good things to come, considering your past 2 performances). So I ask what is baseless? Do you even know what baseless is? Here's the definition for you:
Obviously I'm basing this on fact (his recent struggle), so get back to me when you comprehend the meaning of baseless.
And why are we comparing Dirk to Harden, Dirk is a damn 7 foot shooting guard, with an unstopable move & he's still a legit number one option, I see no parallels. Dirk's struggles had more to do with his weak psyche at the time more then anything.
Again, he posted a 21 PER on a godly 61% true shooting percentage during the playoffs..he didn't struggle throughout the playoffs, he struggled during one series, albeit the most important series..the Spurs are in the Finals if you replace Harden with even a slightly inferior player, tbh..
I'm not delusional enough to believe he's a #1 guy, but as I pointed out on the other page, there are a number of perimeter players that have worse contracts(all #1 or #2 guys on their respective teams, too)..
You're writing a guy off because he had one bad series on the big stage, just like many did with Dirk. Harden is a terrific player. Not a #1 option, but definitely good enough to be a #2 option. OKC made this deal because they had to, not because they wanted to. I think they temporarily take a step back. Fortunately for them, KD and Westbrook are young enough that they can wait out Miami and the Lakers, and a smart pickup or two can put them over the top.
So, is this Kevin Martin's chance to pull a Kobe and coattail a superstar in his prime to a ship or two? The legit white mamba?
harden went up against a GREAT perimeter defense and lock down defenders in wade and Lebron. You can't judge a guy based off of one series, even if it was the finals. Yeah he may have choked some and missed some bunnies but you can't deny how brilliant he was in the Dallas and SA series.
I guess Dirk was overrated after 06 and LeBron in 2011 cause they both sucked ass in the Finals, right?
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Meanwhile the Spurs Big 3 have been together for nearly a decade now, and they have 3 rings together. Kobe's Lakers have been successful too, obviously. Even the Celtics Big 3 lasted longer. 5 years, 2 Finals berths and a championship.I don't understand how Harden has become so underrated after his poor showing in the Finals. The guy is a damn good basketball player. There's no way Kevin Martin is anywhere near Harden's level.
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lol @ OKC's one year window.
He hardly played in the Olympics but hit 50% of his shots. The parallel between Harden and Dirk is that dumbasses said the same about Nowitzki after he had issues against the Heat in 06. He missed teh FT and was broken forever.
What you are doing isn't even armchair psychoanalysis its just a really stupid assertion based on an Olympic contest where he hit 50% of his shots and the ing preseason. If you want to call it a basis then go for it but I will side with every other person here and say you are talking out of your ass. Oh and:
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