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Shots fired by Kobe. They all missed.
The old "I was just joking after the fact" technique. A ST classic.
Shots fired by Kobe. They all missed.
DPG. You should know me by now. Whenever I put this:in any of my posts, ah nvm...
Carry on hommie.
Wade on Harden trade:
LINK"It shakes up the West a little bit. I think both team got fair value. I'm not a GM or anything but both teams came out pretty good... I'm not one of those guys who fell back too far. They have good depth, Kevin Martin is a pretty good scorer in this league. We'll see how it shakes out but I still think they're the best team in the West right now," Wade added.
Keep talking Wade.
sounds like whistle is gettin a little defensive, sounds like hes a bit worried
He opening up his big yap already:
In the words of the great Mr. Burns, "Excellent"
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And no, it's not really talk. But I guarantee you Kobe and the new look Lakers will take it that way. Him and Bosh talking already. The Lakers meanwhile are quiet. They are better off shutting the up. It's on.
that ugly SOB...the Heat had one of the weakest le runs in NBA history...they lucked up and beat Indiana..how ing sorry is that...they beat a bright lights / Star struck dazed OKC team that overachieved after "Beating LA"...the bumping his big ass lips because he's scared...
at Wade trolling.
Wade can talk all he wants... he's the defending champ... you want to shut him up, take the crown from him
ahh the Thunder kicked your ass and they are the defending WCF champs, so what is wrong about that statement? Lakers are going to have to prove it during the season if they want to be the favorites. Lineups on paper don't mean to me. It's seems that they don't mean to D-Wade either.
What's wrong with it? Hmmm...let me think. Maybe because these are no longer the same teams. OKC got worse in the off season losing Harden and the Lakers got much better.
I knew a post like this were coming. So predictable. IIRC, we were a few botched possessions away from being up 3-1 in that series. So don't act like they were head and shoulders better than us. Also, Sessions the bed and let Chuckbrook go off at will. Bynum was neutralized by Perkins and Ibaka. Pau shriveled up as well. Enter 2012 offseason: Nash + Howard added to Kobe/Pau are moves that changes the dynamic of our team drastically.
Quick recap: we have the best center in the game who is DPOY in that he defends P&R very well. He also protects the rim. We also have the best passer in the game in Nash. Look at Kobe's preseason efficiency: 50%, 41%, and about 85% from the charity stripe. We also have the best passing big man in the game in Pau who will help Nash and Kobe get D12 the ball in places to dominate. Athletically, Howard/Pau > Perkins/Ibaka collectively. Our biggest hole (PG) was filled.
Now if you are talking about last year's Lakers, you obviously have a point. This year's Lakers? I
Lol The insecurity of laker fans ... Child Please.
I didn't dismiss the Lakers at all. I know the Lakers screwed up, they were a lot closer than the 4-1 series win indicates, Spurs were in a great position too and we had a couple of players the bed. The Thunder made the finals though and are still the WC champs, I was trying to give them a little respect. I don't know why as I still feel we got ripped off on some goal tending calls and also the second half of game 6, but they still won the series though and I was trying to give them a little bit of respect.I knew a post like this were coming. So predictable. IIRC, we were a few botched possessions away from being up 3-1 in that series. So don't act like they were head and shoulders better than us. Also, Sessions the bed and let Chuckbrook go off at will. Bynum was neutralized by Perkins and Ibaka. Pau shriveled up as well. Enter 2012 offseason: Nash + Howard added to Kobe/Pau are moves that changes the dynamic of our team drastically.
Quick recap: we have the best center in the game who is DPOY in that he defends P&R very well. He also protects the rim. We also have the best passer in the game in Nash. Look at Kobe's preseason efficiency: 50%, 41%, and about 85% from the charity stripe. We also have the best passing big man in the game in Pau who will help Nash and Kobe get D12 the ball in places to dominate. Athletically, Howard/Pau > Perkins/Ibaka collectively. Our biggest hole (PG) was filled.
Now if you are talking about last year's Lakers, you obviously have a point. This year's Lakers? I
I don't really give a about them though. I prefer a team playing inside out that also focuses heavily on defense. I tried to watch them during the regular season last season as I liked Durant, but quickly got bored as I don't like their style of play, especially their reliance on free throws with Harden being the ring leader in that area for soft foul calls. It took me a while, but after the Spurs series was over I almost wanted to hit Harden like Artest did.
Anyway, I think Wade has seen these super teams fail before like the rest of us, so I guess he actually wants to see the performance on the court before he acknowledges how good they are. I obviously think LA has the potential to be better than OKC this season, I was just saying that you gotta prove it first on the court before you get those props.
moral victories
Pretty rich coming from Lakerfan, tbh
I didn't dismiss the Lakers at all. I know the Lakers screwed up, they were a lot closer than the 4-1 series win indicates, Spurs were in a great position too and we had a couple of players the bed. The Thunder made the finals though and are still the WC champs, I was trying to give them a little respect. I don't know why as I still feel we got ripped off on some goal tending calls and also the second half of game 6, but they still won the series though and I was trying to give them a little bit of respect.
I don't really give a about them though. I prefer a team playing inside out that also focuses heavily on defense. I tried to watch them during the regular season last season as I liked Durant, but quickly got bored as I don't like their style of play, especially their reliance on free throws with Harden being the ring leader in that area for soft foul calls. It took me a while, but after the Spurs series was over I almost wanted to hit Harden like Artest did
Anyway, I think Wade has seen these super teams fail before like the rest of us, so I guess he actually wants to see the performance on the court before he acknowledges how good they are. I obviously think LA has the potential to be better than OKC this season, I was just saying that you gotta prove it first on the court before you get those props.
Pretty rich coming from Lakerfan, tbh
You can say all that without going all emo
As far as what you're saying, I would concur up to an extent. The way I see it, OKC just basically gave WB and KD more work. Now, unlike Kobe, Nash, Pau, etc, who have all already peaked and are on the decline, KD and WB still haven't reached their ceiling.
From there, I would say it would be pretty crazy that KD would score more than he does. Dude is a scoring machine already. I would think his progression would need to come from improvement on the defensive end. Perhaps adding some post play. You know, the kind of thing Lebron went through already. As far as WB, his shooting percentages are fine. His assist numbers are fine too. He just needs to cut down on the turnovers a bit, and now that he'll get extra playing time (I couldn't believe he only averaged 25 mpg), he needs to be as effective in 30-35 mpg. Will it all come together for the Thunder? who knows, time will tell. Is it possible? Sure.
Don't get me wrong. Everything would've been easier if Harden would've stayed. He's a great player, and if they're going to make up for his production, it's not going to come from Kevin Martin. But OKC is certainly in a position where their stars are still getting better. As I pointed up upstairs a day or two ago, an even better KD would certainly be a scary sight for every team not named Miami.
lol at koolaids short memory.
You can say all that without going all emo
Harden took a ton of pressure off WB and KD collectively with his scoring and facilitating ability. You don't just replace that with Maynor and Martin. When the offense stalls, I could easily see him turn into Chuckbrook. It's in his DNA
That OKC trio was hard to stop in the clutch when they were on the floor to close quarters/games. That makes the loss of Harden huge. Why? In this league you win with star power. This goes back from Russell/Cousy, to KAJ/Big O, to Magic/KAJ, to Shaq/Kobe, TD/Manu/TP, and most recently Boston and Miami's Big 3.
Their stars are getting better, but they can't do it alone. Look at prime Kobe (2004-2007). Look at LBJ (2003 until 2012). You need help. If KD/WB were the caliber of Shaq/Kobe, then I'd concede your point. I don't see them ever having the type of two-way impact Shaq/Kobe had. No team could contain Shaq in prime inside and Kobe outside. Without Harden taking pressure off of them, I don't see them even sniffing that kind of production. If anything it will be easier to contain them now which plays right into the Lakers' hands.
FIFY slol at koolaids short memory.
you barely got out of the first round with your panties on.
While I agree that this league has turned into a 2 stars + 1 second banana league, we also had seen the case where one scorching hot star with a good second banana and serviceable players won the ship (see Dallas Mavs two seasons ago). Again, don't sleep on OKC. They'll need to re-adjust, but I wouldn't write them off just yet.Harden took a ton of pressure off WB and KD collectively with his scoring and facilitating ability. You don't just replace that with Maynor and Martin. When the offense stalls, I could easily see him turn into Chuckbrook. It's in his DNA
That OKC trio was hard to stop in the clutch when they were on the floor to close quarters/games. That makes the loss of Harden huge. Why? In this league you win with star power. This goes back from Russell/Cousy, to KAJ/Big O, to Magic/KAJ, to Shaq/Kobe, TD/Manu/TP, and most recently Boston and Miami's Big 3.
Their stars are getting better, but they can't do it alone. Look at prime Kobe (2004-2007). Look at LBJ (2003 until 2012). You need help. If KD/WB were the caliber of Shaq/Kobe, then I'd concede your point. I don't see them ever having the type of two-way impact Shaq/Kobe had. No team could contain Shaq in prime inside and Kobe outside. Without Harden taking pressure off of them, I don't see them even sniffing that kind of production. If anything it will be easier to contain them now which plays right into the Lakers' hands.
its ok to hate the lakers if your a nuggets fan tbh.
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