Did you go to college/university or anything?

[FkLA]

However, I would never assume that a science major who writes a art history paper did so because they lack the intellectual capacity for academic writing. That would be stupid. The reverse is stupid, too. Everyone is different and is motivated by different things, but it cannot be assumed that just because someone chose a focus in the humanities, they did so because they lack the intellectual capacity to make it in the sciences.

As has been mentioned already youre confusing boring with difficult. Engineering or any other difficult science isnt just about not finding the subject boring. Ill put it like this, lets assume all things are equal--1000 students for each major and all of them are motivated and interested in what theyre doing...which of the two majors has the lower graduation rate ?

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There is an art of science to all degrees. In many social sciences you need to take a statistics class and then develop some type of experiment of program. In undergrad I did it and am doing again for my Masters. There is tons of science behind evidence based practice and services that are delivered in a humanitarian field. Don't even for one second think that a therapist is just spouting shot for no reason, the way they answer and work towards solutions is based on researched techniques that are also scientifically backed for accuracy.

[BUMP]

BS in Geophysics at TTU, hopefully masters somewhere else.

CF thinking science majors would have trouble writing those bull papers. The papers I had to write in those re ed English literature classes are nothing compared to the ones I have to write for my science ones

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I thought you were a Mass Comm major with Justin Spookmon?

[BUMP]

Mass comm>science majors because they can speak really well!

[BUMP]

And if CF really thinks people who are science majors don't need to know how to write papers, she's even more re ed than I thought

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'll bet geophysics majors aren't as good at reading 300 pages of some shakespeare romance play as liberal arts majors are

[BUMP]

Yeah I guess she has that on me oh well

[Mr.Bookman]

All you joyboys who like making fun of librarians make me sick. Sure it may be a joke to you all but the library means a whole of a lot to me!

[DMC]

Obvious Mouse troll is obvious.

[DMC]

There is an art of science to all degrees. In many social sciences you need to take a statistics class and then develop some type of experiment of program. In undergrad I did it and am doing again for my Masters. There is tons of science behind evidence based practice and services that are delivered in a humanitarian field. Don't even for one second think that a therapist is just spouting shot for no reason, the way they answer and work towards solutions is based on researched techniques that are also scientifically backed for accuracy.

Oh there's a reason, there's just no scientific method behind it. There's no art to science. In it's pure form, it's an amoral method of data collection and an attempt to explain that data, but even the explanations built within walls of data get remodeled quite frequently as we learn more using the same scientific method.

If there was an art to it, it would be a BA degree instead of a BS degree. The fact that liberal arts majors try so very hard to equivocate their degree into something science related just highlights the importance and difficulty of science degrees vs liberal arts degrees. I've never, not once, seen a science grad say "well at the heart of it all my degree is really a liberal art of science degree". No. "Soft, vague, superficial eloquence masked as science", that pretty well describes many liberal arts.

[DMC]

How is that different or worse than you and others in this thread assuming that liberal arts majors are only liberal arts majors because they're too stupid for the sciences?

I haven't said as much. It's not uncommon however that MS majors who switch their major due to workload and difficulty of classes move to liberal arts. It's uncommon for the reverse to happen. Just look at the degrees that college athletes get most often, almost always liberal arts of some form.

[TheRealCB]

Studying economics right now,when I'm done I'll go for an accounting MBA tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tbh getting an MBA in accounting is pretty worthless. As long as you can get your CPA that's the only certification that really matters in accounting.

[DMC]

College-educated athletes can be found in every sport, but here are some famous ones from several different communities.
Mic e Kwan, Mia Hamm – Political Science
Olympic ice skater Mic e Kwan and Olympic soccer player Mia Hamm both earned their Bachelor’s degree in political science, although don’t think that the degree makes Olympic athletes out of its students. Both women started their Olympic paths before earning their degrees! I know we could all make the same claim about our teen years. Olympic medals aside, a political science degree can point you toward careers such as politician, non-profit fundraiser, or sociologist.
Michael Jordan – Geography
Like many professional athletes, the mighty Michael Jordan didn’t finish his Bachelor’s degree before leaving North Carolina University to join the NBA. However, it shows his true merit that he went back to finish his geography degree just a couple years later. Geography degrees can steer you toward a career in teaching or research if you aren’t a legendary basketball star.
Peyton Manning – Speech Communications
NFL Quarterback Peyton Manning started out the same way many college students begin by pursuing his degree in speech communications. However, he did things a bit different: he earned his Bachelor’s degree in three years instead of four. Oh, and he went on to make millions of dollars playing in the NFL. For those without a million-dollar arm, this degree can land you a job in journalism or marketing.
Phil Mickelson – Psychology
Golf legend Phil Michelson earned his Bachelor’s degree in psychology only months before going pro at the 1992 U.S. Open. This means that you still have some time to work on your putting if you want to follow in his footsteps. But for the more realistic, a Bachelor’s degree in psychology typically means a job in many different areas such as clinical psychology or research.
Mark Spitz – Pre-Dental
Mark Spitz earned the most Olympic medals in swimming (until Michael Phelps beat him), but that wasn’t until after he earned his bachelor’s degree in pre-dental studies. Being a dentist had been his goal since high school, but little obstacles such as “the Olympics” and “national fame” got in his way. Think about that the next time you’re getting your teeth cleaned by a potential professional javelin star.
Shaquille O’Neal – General Studies
After leaving Louisiana State University in 1992 to play for the NBA, Shaq finished his Bachelor’s degree in general studies in 2000 by attending summer school during the basketball offseason.What is a degree in general studies you ask? It is a sort of interdisciplinary degree that allows the student to build their own curriculum from a wide range of topics. This degree is specifically offered as a degree for adults who are forced to delay their studies, such as when you have to go play for the Orlando Magic (which happens to a lot of people).
Dhani Jones – Self-Representation
Dhani Jones, a linebacker in the National Football League, earned his Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Michigan with a major of his own design called “Self-Representation.” Unsure of what that is? You’re not alone. Jones considers himself an artist first and even has his own creative agency in New York City.
Tim Tebow – Family, Youth and Community Sciences
Tim Tebow, winner of the Heisman trophy in 2007, earned his degree in Family, Youth and Community Sciences from the University of Florida. This degree would typically prepare students for careers such as elder care services, youth risk prevention, and family case manager. Surprisingly, being an amazing football player is not on the curriculum.
ALMOST AN ATHELETE: Eva Longoria – Kinesiology
Wondering what you could do with a degree that would actually prepare you for a sports career? Become a professional actress! Eva Longoria earned her Bachelor of Science degree in kinesiology from Texas A&M University-Kingsville, but she was spotted and signed by a theatrical agent after entering a talent contest in Los Angeles. I guess she still needs to move onscreen, so her degree in kinesiology still comes in handy.


Boy those liberal arts degrees are tough. Shaq is one smart mother er.

[DMC]

Do you honestly think this is unique to engineering internships?

It must be because you didn't ing know. Why do you keep throwing out red herrings? You asked about how to get a job in a saturated market and I told you. You really act like someone who's insecure about their degree.

So you didn't have non-engineering majors do engineering work? Shocking. If I ran a museum and took on a couple of engineering majors as interns, I likely wouldn't rely on them for their art historical knowledge.

No, did you have engineering majors handing out leaflets?

Thank god that true story happened, though, else you'd be robbed of a sick burn.

Robbed how? It's my story.

I haven't done that. You've accused me numerous times in this thread of attempting to equivocate or directly compare the work of an engineering student to that of a liberal arts student, but my position has always been that the differences in the two fields make such comparisons largely irrelevant, if not wholly impossible. The fact that engineering is hard does not mean that everything that's not engineering is automatically not hard.

Yeah yeah, you cannot compare the two but no way a physics grad could do the 300 pages of writing you've done. It's all there in writing, I don't need you to paraphrase. Just quote.

You basically got the bull degree grandslam but you're likely a better person for it.

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I'd rather hear about lawyers/doctors/engineers deciding to become librarians. It's a lot more entertaining.

Actually, go to any law school. The law librarians have both a JD and an MLS/MIS/MSIS and choose to work as librarians.

The Houston Academy of Medicine/Texas Medical Center Library in Houston that serves Baylor, UTHSC Houston, MD Anderson and a myriad of other ins utions -- its library director is Maximilian Buja, M.D.

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I've never, not once, seen a science grad say "well at the heart of it all my degree is really a liberal art of science degree".

Talk to some medical school professors.

[Juggity]

Boy those liberal arts degrees are tough. Shaq is one smart mother er.

At top-tier universities, liberal arts degrees are challenging. Most athletes don't get into top-tier universities.

[DMC]

Talk to some medical school professors.

Wouldn't change what I've seen.

[DMC]

At top-tier universities, liberal arts degrees are challenging. Most athletes don't get into top-tier universities.

Just for s and giggles, what top tier university did you attend?

[DMC]

Actually, go to any law school. The law librarians have both a JD and an MLS/MIS/MSIS and choose to work as librarians.

The Houston Academy of Medicine/Texas Medical Center Library in Houston that serves Baylor, UTHSC Houston, MD Anderson and a myriad of other ins utions -- its library director is Maximilian Buja, M.D.

lol just a bit misleading.

Dr Buja was the Dean of the UT Medical School at Houston. He was appointed to be the executive director of the medical school library. I highly doubt he does anything remotely associated with library sciences. Where did he get his degree in library and information sciences exactly?

If a HS teacher one day becomes the school's superintendent, does that make him a librarian as well since he's also in charge of the library?

btw, here's what that schools website says about him:

Maximilian Buja, MD

Professor, Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Distinguished Teaching Professor
Distinguished Chair in Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Executive Vice President for Academic Affairs

[Latarian Milton]

Studying economics right now,when I'm done I'll go for an accounting MBA tbh.

hope there's still an economy in greece by the time you graduate tbh

[Juggity]

Just for s and giggles, what top tier university did you attend?

Let's just say one of the top 20 schools in the US News & World Report rankings to avoid identifying myself.

You can pick whichever one you want; the fact of the matter is that they make you work for your degree.

[DMC]

Oh, and from LLRx.com:

In fact, it can be a point of frustration for a person coming into the law library with the JD only to find that the directors and leaders of the library do not have a JD and do not see the need to increase compensation for those who have it. The following anonymous comment by a member of Generation X says it well: "As a state court librarian, I am often frustrated with regard to salary. In an interesting way, this issue is related to generations in law librarianship. The le of "librarian" in the N.J. court system does not require either a J.D. or M.L.S. Many of the older librarians who have been in their positions for years do not possess either. In addition, they have no reason to lobby for change with regard to the "librarian" job le. As one of the newer librarians, I don't feel that I am being justly compensated for my level of education. I also feel like I would have very little support from some of the older librarians if I wanted to seek a reclassification of the job le. I enjoy my work tremendously, however, my salary is extremely low considering my amount of student loan debt. (I have both and (sic) MLS and a JD)."¹⁶