If/If Dice is in decent shape and still has some endurance Id be for it myself. Father Time can be pretty rough. A decent Dice is a big improvement over an invisible Bonner.
I think if there is mutual interest you have to atleast work him out and see what he has got. Also he could do the PJ Brown thing and not start playing until after the all star break. Save a little wear and tear on his body but give him enough time to get comfortable with the team. He would take a lot less time to get used to offense/defense than Kmart.
i'd rather they sign a young, athletic player over dice at this juncture.
Can Dice really be in a shape to play basketball at NBA level? I do not think so ...
"At this point- I am looking for someone a little more athletic to be matty's back-up!"
The FO has tried to bring in young and athletic bigs without much luck. Fact remains, the Spurs need a true back up big that has a decent outside game and can play physical defense. Given his knowledge of the Spurs complicated O and D schemes, he would be a good fit. Again, provided he has something left in the tank
mcdyess sitting out a year and being close to 40 doesn't sit well with me.
i think we're expecting mcdyess to still play at the same level as he did 3 years ago.
if he can produce at a high level i'm all for it.
i don't think he has it in him to be productive.
curry just got waived, i'd rather have him over mcdyess.
He was better than Blair two years ago, can't see why he couldn't still be a big upgrade as a 4th big right now.
Also, Dice had that stinger which limited his effectiveness though he still played tougher than anyone not named Duncan.
This.
Of course, it'd be great if they could do both.
Who is the young, athletic player that they should sign? I'd rather have McDyess than Curry because at least Dice won't make mental errors on D for the next 6 months. He can also play next to Splitter.
No offense to Dice, but he was running on fumes when he retired. How much could he possibly have left now? Don't get me wrong, I'd take him over Bonner, but as we all know and have seen, older players tend to wear out over the long season.
As I stated earlier, if the Spurs can bolster their frontline by somehow adding another current frontline player, I'd still take Dice as a bonus.
yea. if dice does return then he needs to be the 5th or 6th big on the team. wouldnt last as a rotational big. Especially now that pops really pushing the tempo.
Like who? No one ever seems to answer that question. Sure it would be great if the Spurs could snatch up some athletic big who would eventually replace TD but none are out there. Besides, the Spurs are in win now mode. They don't have time for young big to "catch-on" and learn how to play within the system and with TD. Dice has done that, so there wouldn't be much of a teaching curve.
This would of been perfect 3-5 years ago as we need a guy 6'9 or taller who can be a tough mobile defender and knock down outside shots but he's done. Still hoping for K Mart.
If McDyess was David Robinson with a bad back coming back with his same skills during the 03 Run, Many here would say that DRob 's game would be perfect here. McDyess would still have something to offer the Spurs the same way PJ Brown did with the 08 Celtics.
Any of that is of more help in the playoffs then missed 3 pointers from Bonner or underwhelming play from Blair. Of course, it Bonner was automatic from 3 and Blair was really the 2nd coming of Grandmama, then McDyess or any other stretch 4 ain't needed. But....they ain't any of that for any real semblance of time.
Gah, never mind my text got deleted.
My point was that having Dice will make Pop call on Dice over Splitter, Blair and Bonner. I think the best thing that Pop can do is just let Splitter play.
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I'm sure if he's thinking about it Spurs will be interested. If Dysse passes physicals and appears to be at a level when he retired Spurs offer him an invitation. Spurs need to improve their interior defense when Duncan's not on the court. Antonio (if as good as when he left) would be an upgrade to who they have now.
Also factor in the Spurs now have better perimeter defenders (Leonard, Jackson, Green) than they had when Dysse retired. One reason teams were so effective against the Spurs when Dysse played was a lack of perimeter defense which put undue pressure on the interior. Theoretically, Dysse would not have to play as exhaustive as he had to endure his last season with the Spurs if he played for them now.
The main difference is that if Dice comes now, He won't be the starting PF like a few years ago. He had to start because of Dejuan going Ed Curry just before the playoffs.
Dice would be the 3rd/4th BIG coming off the bench to play 15 minutes and for the role SA needs, he is perfect. He is a tough defender who knows Pop's system that can hit the mid-range jump-shot.
I would take Dice back pretty easily. As for the young athletic player that would contribute right away, I am assuming you guys have a lot of suggestions for the min salary.
Done is done.
Matt Bonner gives effort, too. Sometimes that just isn't enough.
One thing that really struck me about Dice in that Memphis series was not just the effort he gave, but how emotional he was. There were a couple of instances where he uncharacteristically lost his temper with the officials. I attritubuted that to the fact that he knew this was his last series and he was leaving it ALL on the court. My respect level for him, which was already high, went up even more.
Dice was really good in the 2010 playoffs, his defense on Dirk was part of the reason why the Spurs past the Mavs. He was also good in 2011, Z-Bo was just unstoppable.
However, after one year, I'm not sure if he has something left. Maybe he could play occasionaly to keep him fresh for the playoffs.
Another detail, even if he returns to the 11 form, is if the Duncan - Diaw / Splitter - Dice rotation can get past the Lakers bigman rotation.
Well, we know for sure that the Duncan-Diaw/Splitter-Blair & Bonner rotation won't cut it against the laker's frontline.
Dice, if anything, would bring defensive toughness to the floor ala Capn Jack. He could certainly provide that even if given limited minutes on the court.
Dice is definitely an improvement over Bonner or Blair, by now its more than clear those players simply can't play in the playoffs. They still have a role in regular season, though.
Dice doesn't feel uncomfortable playing from the bench and he knows the system.
RC waked up last season with Leonard, Green, Jack, Diaw and Mills. This season with the addition of De Colo and the progress of Cory, the Spurs will finally address the backup PG problem.
Only an quality bigman is missing for serious contending.
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