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    We're ed either way, Romney reminds me of a used car salesman. Will say anything to get the sale. Shrewd business man who has prospered by shipping jobs over seas ala Bain Capital. Offshore tax shelters... yeah seems legit...

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    Yeah, a 5 trillion dollar tax cut and 2 trillion dollar increase in military spending sure sounds like caring about the national debt issue.
    The national debt is over $16 Trillion and has has increased dramatically since Obama took office. His budget proposals to congress have done nothing but perpetuate these increases. We cannot survive the lavish government spending that Obama has been promoting imo. We have to get someone in office that is more fiscally responsible.

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    I've seen people present some coherent cases for why they'd vote AGAINST Obama, but far fewer that seemed to be actually voting FOR Romney. Which was what seemed to be happening an awful lot in the discussions I heard in 2004. Lots of people talking about voting against Bush rather than for Kerry. If all your candidate has going for him is that his base finds him less objectionable than the opposition party then that's not the sort of inspiring presence that can unseat an in bent. It's like going after the champ in the WWF (or WWE if you're sickeningly young). Simply not losing isn't enough to win the le. You have to go out there and take that .

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    If someone is shoving a ed bat up my ass for 4 years and you ask me if I want him for 4 more or take my chances with some other guy...I'm going with the other guy. My rationale:
    I doubt he could make it worse. And if he does, they everything is ed anyway. But maybe...just maybe, the new guy takes the es out of the bat.

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    The national debt is over $16 Trillion and has has increased dramatically since Obama took office. His budget proposals to congress have done nothing but perpetuate these increases. We cannot survive the lavish government spending that Obama has been promoting imo. We have to get someone in office that is more fiscally responsible.
    Do you think a 5 trillion dollar tax cut and 2 trillion dollar increase in defense spending is fiscally responsible?

    Here comes another post where you completely dodge the subject of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut or a 2 trillion dollar increase in spending.

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    If someone is shoving a ed bat up my ass for 4 years and you ask me if I want him for 4 more or take my chances with some other guy...I'm going with the other guy. My rationale:
    I doubt he could make it worse. And if he does, they everything is ed anyway. But maybe...just maybe, the new guy takes the es out of the bat.
    Yeah, unless the other guy is openly telling you he has a ed bat in his hand

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    Yeah, unless the other guy is openly telling you he has a ed bat in his hand
    or unless the new guy actually trained for a lifetime in shoving ed bats up the ass lol

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    Do you think a 5 trillion dollar tax cut and 2 trillion dollar increase in defense spending is fiscally responsible?

    Here comes another post where you completely dodge the subject of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut or a 2 trillion dollar increase in spending.
    It is absolutely more fiscally responsible that Obama's plan.

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    It is absolutely more fiscally responsible that Obama's plan.
    Still dodging the question regarding whether or not it's fiscally responsible.

    Shocking.

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    It is absolutely more fiscally responsible that Obama's plan.
    Really? Be specific.

    I would like to hear how.

    Romney's plan is the equivalent of "magic ponies will come in to give everybody magic tax cuts, while we increase defense spending, and not increase the deficit/debt". I am not a big fan of the magic ponies.

    Waiting on your response.

    Where is CD when you need him....?

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    Yeah, unless the other guy is openly telling you he has a ed bat in his hand
    At least I get the short reprieve when the first guy pulls his bat out.

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    The national debt is over $16 Trillion and has has increased dramatically since Obama took office. His budget proposals to congress have done nothing but perpetuate these increases. We cannot survive the lavish government spending that Obama has been promoting imo. We have to get someone in office that is more fiscally responsible.
    "lavish government spending that Obama has been promoting" imo

    One problem. That isn't actualy the case.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202398

    Before Obama had even lifted a finger, the CBO was already projecting that the federal deficit would rise to $1.2 trillion in fiscal 2009. The government actually spent less money in 2009 than it was projected to, but the deficit expanded to $1.4 trillion because revenue from taxes fell much further than expected, due to the weak economy and the emergency tax cuts that were part of the stimulus bill.
    Obama is in favor of raising taxes. This is far more fiscally responsible than not doing so.

    Deficits are getting too large to be attacked by spending cuts alone. Sorry. That is the reality we face. Or least the reality outside the Fox "news" bubble.

    The only option to not raising taxes is gutting en lements so much that no one would agree them. (edit-- cut out some unneeded stuff)

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    "lavish government spending that Obama has been promoting" imo

    One problem. That isn't actualy the case.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202398

    Obama is in favor of raising taxes. This is far more fiscally responsible than not doing so.

    Deficits are getting too large to be attacked by spending cuts alone. Sorry. That is the reality we face. Or least the reality outside the Fox "news" bubble.

    The only option to not raising taxes is gutting en lements so much that no one would agree them. (edit-- cut out some unneeded stuff)
    It is absolutely the case. Here is just one excerpt from many you could reference. This is related to his 2012 budget proposal done in 2011.

    Obama's budget increases 2012 deficit by a third. Yes, that's correct. President Obama submitted his proposed 2012 budget this past Monday. This budget produces a $1.1 trillion deficit for 2012. This deficit is 33 percent higher than his 2011 budget projection, which targeted the 2012 deficit at $828 billion. This higher 2012 deficit is equivalent to $3,217 per person in the United States (based on the U.S. Census Bureau's population clock).

    This year's forecast of the 2011 deficit is $1.6 trillion, 30 percent higher than Obama's 2011-budgeted deficit of $1.3 trillion.


    http://townhall.com/columnists/jacki...cit_by_a_third

    We must gut en lement programs. There is no other choice.

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    It is absolutely the case. Here is just one excerpt from many you could reference.
    You seem to be missing a rather important point noted by the CBO.

    Is it possible to cut spending, keep tax rates the same, and still have a larger deficit?

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    We must gut en lement programs. There is no other choice.
    Sure there is. But hey, if that is what you want, go for it.

    I don't think you know what the true costs of that option would be, but I am willing to go along, if only to put the lie once and for all to some of the failed ideas of libertarianism.

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    It is absolutely the case. Here is just one excerpt from many you could reference.
    I could reference it, were I to accept at face value an analysis of the Federal Budget by Newt Gingrich's daughter, without fact checking it first.


    (to be fair, she seems fairly qualified, IMO)

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    or unless the new guy actually trained for a lifetime in shoving ed bats up the ass lol
    Would love to hear the rationale of this. When, in Romney's life, has he had to face adversity which has given him a lifetime of training? Mother er was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth and his only job was to not it up.

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    Would love to hear the rationale of this. When, in Romney's life, has he had to face adversity which has given him a lifetime of training? Mother er was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth and his only job was to not it up.
    didn't you hear? one time, it got so bad that he had to sell stock.

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    Would love to hear the rationale of this. When, in Romney's life, has he had to face adversity which has given him a lifetime of training? Mother er was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth and his only job was to not it up.
    Reading comprehension issues much?

    I'll spell it out slowly for you...


    Romney is trained in ing people $$$ up the ass and getting away with it...for example being a billionaire and paying 13% taxes...

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    Do you think a 5 trillion dollar tax cut and 2 trillion dollar increase in defense spending is fiscally responsible?

    Here comes another post where you completely dodge the subject of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut or a 2 trillion dollar increase in spending.
    Yup I agree...And everyone is calling him out on his lies but in the last 3 weeks Mitt is not doing any interviews or taking any questions. Just more fake photo ops like pretending to take part in a food drive for hurricane Sandy or campaign speeches were he is saying that Obama is letting Italians take jeep to china which was also proven to be a lie. He is so afraid to answer questions right now that he wont even be interviewed on Fox news. It is sad to think that people will still vote for this proven liar just to get the black man out of office.

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    We're ed either way, Romney reminds me of a used car salesman. Will say anything to get the sale. Shrewd business man who has prospered by shipping jobs over seas ala Bain Capital. Offshore tax shelters... yeah seems legit...
    Does that make Obama a new car salesman?

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    When you have no job you usually vote for other guy.

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    if...
    I'm white
    I'm Christian
    I'm rich
    I'm uneducated

    then Romney seems appealing

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