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Go find a single post where I suggested Martin could fill the closer role.
This thread will go on for 50 pages if thunder fans feel necessary to address every single negative post about their team
Go find a single post where I suggested Martin could fill the closer role.
Martin is a very heady player. He makes great decisions with the ball, at least from what I've seen. 7 assists to 1 TO through 2 games. Playmaking comes in all forms. You don't even need the ball to be a playmaker. He's certainly not the same playmaker Harden is but he's valuable offensively. We shall see. My opinion is there's a lot of potential with the roster. Ill leave it at that
lambo has the potential to be even better than beard nig tbh. it's a very tough question at this point of time as to which team won the harden-martin deal, but it does appear to me that both teams got what they wanted. OKC traded their 6th man of the year for financial flexibility in the future, and they also acquired some decent young talents including that guy named lambo who was one of the top prospects from the 12' draft.
houston on the other hand got a media-loved guy that's gonna make a boost to their ticket/jersey sales, a player that they think they can make the new face of their franchise. only pity is james harden is a beard rather than a beard tbh
Now think real hard.
Not so classy after all, I guess
Another psychic fan who can foresee the future. Making judgements and assumptions before anyone even takes the floor. Typical.
hmm...same got glasses that don't work, he's got the cliché shirt, she's got 7 lbs of make up on. those two STDs deserve each other.
No, I'm just a knowledgeable fan.
I respect your opinion. We all have one. On the playmaking comparison - yes harden is superior there but Martin has consistently been top 5-10 in the league for years in FT attempts so he gets to the line. He's not exactly a guy that's just roaming the perimeter and shooting the 3
Yep, still not worry here.
lol losing to hawks at home
OKC lost the first 2 games in a 7 game series against SA- that didn't seem to matter.
WHy does losing 2 in an 82 game series matter at this point?
Who'd MIami lose to 20 by the other night? You guys counting that ty team out already too?
MIA is a proven champion IMO (meaning that's why they aren't counted out.)
I don't think anyone is counting OKC out - but they are struggling and appeared to make a large basketball mistake this season by trading Harden.
Have you actually watched OKC's 2 losses? Well, I'm assuming you watched the first one. Their "struggles" have absolutely NOTHING to do with personnel changes or the lack of James Harden. Kevin Martin has played outstanding basketball, all things considered. , they'd probably be doing worse at this point had they not traded for the guy! It's just the same BS - Westbrook and sloppy bball and 20 turnovers tonight.
That is the thing Thunderfans don't seem to get about the Harden v Martin argument: KMart's stats have always looked respectable but it does not lead to winning. OKC (given, it's still very early and they need to adjust/gel) looks much different and despite getting a lot of points on a very efficient night from Martin, they lost.
Poor defense..turnovers...Atlanta shot 50% from the field. There was bad pick and roll defense across the starting 5. Lots of turnovers among the starting 5. It's one game. Atlanta has some players and they shot the ball well. Westbrook forcing things too many times - a trap he's always fell into, even with Harden on the floor. Westbrook doesn't care if DURANT is on the floor with him, he'll force things. You think he cares if Harden is out there? No. To me, the only issues right now are defensive lapses and sloppy execution on offense.
Poor defense and TO's are something you are going to get when you replace Harden with Martin. Martin is an awful defender compared to Harden. Not to mention, he's not as dynamic of a play make so now you have guys with the ball in their hands more (Durant, WB) who while good, aren't as good as Harden in that department. So now they are over working their stars and asking them to do more of something they aren't quite as good at - hence the more TO's. Sloppy execution is another thing you will see more of due to the Harden v Martin swap.
They don't look that different. They look like the same ole THunder in terms of how they're losing games. We saw all of this last year, and the year before.
Wrong. OKC led the NBA in turnovers last year. It's just how they roll.
How is that wrong? Just because they led the league in TO's last year does not mean they can't get worse (or at least less efficient even if the average does not change).
No wonder Durant needs Clearasil.
Martin may score 18 ppg but what happens when Russ is Bad Russ and chucks them out of a game, tbh
Westbrook stats in OKC's two losses so far: 16.0 ppg on 28.2% shooting, 4.5 TOs
Westbrook stats in OKC's win against POR: 32.0 ppg on 54.2% shooting, 1.0 TOs
I've never seen a player as inconsistent, tbh
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