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    McHale is gonna run him to the ground, the dude was GASSED last night. He got jobbed at the end of regulation, but I don't really care because the Rockets aren't going anywhere this year anyways. It's gonna be fun watching this core grow.
    Yeah I don't like his rotations. He should play at least Terrence Jones for five minutes in the first half and see how he plays. Should have called a timeout before the last play of the game too.

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    Well against an actual wing defender like Matthews, it took Harden 24 shots to get 24 points. lol
    He missed a lot of easy shots. I'd say he was a bit tired, let's see how he goes in the next few games coming off of some rest.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Y! Sports: Looking back on blockbuster deal, James Harden disappointed OKC gave him just an hour to take final offer. http://yhoo.it/UvzpVF

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    all the other dumbasses who called out Harden

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    purplengold
    all the other dumbasses who called out Harden
    alls I said is he a wait n see player right now. ain't said bout him fo a bad game

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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Y! Sports: Looking back on blockbuster deal, James Harden disappointed OKC gave him just an hour to take final offer. http://yhoo.it/UvzpVF


    Pretty classless by KC...

  7. #207
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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Y! Sports: Looking back on blockbuster deal, James Harden disappointed OKC gave him just an hour to take final offer. http://yhoo.it/UvzpVF
    I don't buy it. 1 hour? So what? Did you not know about the Oct 31st deadline for MONTHS? Really, on Oct 27th (or wahtever the date was), when Presti and your agent start contract negotiations, this is all just a big shock and you don't know what to think? This guy isn't an idiot. He knows his contract is up at the end of the year, he knows there's gonna be negotiations around the deadline and he's known it for months. You can't tell me the guy hadn't thought long and hard about this. Do I want to stay? If so, what's my bottom dollar? Presti's the boss, period. I don't care how good these kids are or how important they are to the team, you're an EMPLOYEE and you have a BOSS. If my boss gives me an hour to get back with them, I do it. Where do these guys get off thinking the world is going to cave or wait for them. I'm not saying I am happy or agree with Presti trading him, but I can appreciate the way Presti rolls. If I offer a kid 55 freaking million dollars and give him a deadline to respond and he blows me off...fuk you then, bye. Just on the principle of it.

    Not to mention the day prior negotiations had already started, Harden was already offered $53 and declined. He's makng it out like Presti just on his lap and gave him an hour. Don't act all surprised, James.

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    lol thunderfan.

    The emotional, borderline hysterical, responses to every tidbit of news on this subject have made you into a target for ridicule. Your team put financial success ahead of basketball success. Nothing will change that simple fact. Get over it.

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    lol thunderfan.

    The emotional, borderline hysterical, responses to every tidbit of news on this subject have made you into a target for ridicule. Your team put financial success ahead of basketball success. Nothing will change that simple fact. Get over it.
    No, I'm not emotional or angry about it. Its just the way I am. I'm not bragging, but I'm a mentally tough person and I was always taught not to and moan about things and make excuses. It's who I am. Harden seems like a good kid. WIsh he woulda stayed, but I'm also happy to have Martin on board. It just irritates me to see these kids and moan...I hate ing and moaning, whether its basketball related or not. I respect the way Presti handled it, period. I don't like complainers. Harden is complaining. I only had an hour. Please. People need to show respect, regardless of how great they are. Sometimes you humble yourself. Yeah, you're important to the team, but this wasn't just sprung on Harden. Someone's offering you $55M and gives you a deadline. Man up and respond one way or another. Don't ignore the man, your boss, then complain about how it all went down.

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    Tbh, that old bag Sterling was rightfully called cheap when he made moves like that....

    OKCheap

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    Harden is the real deal, but will get run into the ground quick by the dumbass known as Kevin McHale who doesn't play ANY of the rookies in a rebuilding year.

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    lol thunderfan.

    The emotional, borderline hysterical, responses to every tidbit of news on this subject have made you into a target for ridicule. Your team put financial success ahead of basketball success. Nothing will change that simple fact. Get over it.
    Speaking of financial vs. basketball success, the last thing I want to see is the OKC going the way of the Phoenix Suns. Great promise, just never realized.

    No, I'm not emotional or angry about it. Its just the way I am. I'm not bragging, but I'm a mentally tough person and I was always taught not to and moan about things and make excuses. It's who I am. Harden seems like a good kid. WIsh he woulda stayed, but I'm also happy to have Martin on board. It just irritates me to see these kids and moan...I hate ing and moaning, whether its basketball related or not. I respect the way Presti handled it, period. I don't like complainers. Harden is complaining. I only had an hour. Please. People need to show respect, regardless of how great they are. Sometimes you humble yourself. Yeah, you're important to the team, but this wasn't just sprung on Harden. Someone's offering you $55M and gives you a deadline. Man up and respond one way or another. Don't ignore the man, your boss, then complain about how it all went down.
    I am not sure what to make out of this quote. It is filled with so much comedy, and to a degree, self-reflection, that I felt this is probably the best post I have read here all week, if not over the last few weeks.

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    I can only tell you where I'm coming from. You can draw your own conclusions. In the end, I'm happy with what Presti did. I'm not sure what is funny about my statement. I'm assuming you've made assumptions about the type of person you think I am. You clearly have no idea. I suppose not everyone shares the same belief as I do in terms of people needing to own up to their own responsibilities rather than complaining about the situation. It's simply my opinion that Harden, while I wish him well, is in no position to talk negatively about Presti only giving him an hour.

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    I can only tell you where I'm coming from. You can draw your own conclusions. In the end, I'm happy with what Presti did. I'm not sure what is funny about my statement. I'm assuming you've made assumptions about the type of person you think I am. You clearly have no idea. I suppose not everyone shares the same belief as I do in terms of people needing to own up to their own responsibilities rather than complaining about the situation. It's simply my opinion that Harden, while I wish him well, is in no position to talk negatively about Presti only giving him an hour.
    He was asked a question, and gave an honest answer. Don't see how he's not in any position to answer questions. This isn't news, btw. The hour deadline story was leaked the day after Harden was traded. Woj took that and confronted Harden about it.

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    He was asked a question, and gave an honest answer. Don't see how he's not in any position to answer questions. This isn't news, btw. The hour deadline story was leaked the day after Harden was traded. Woj took that and confronted Harden about it.
    I didn't say he shouldn't have answered and I'm not suggesting that he wasn't truly shocked by it. Maybe he was..? I'm simply saying I can't understand his complaint about Presti only giving him an hour. I guess I'm working under the assumption that people think about enormous issues like this well in advance. Maybe James gave absolutely no thought to contract nego ions prior than 5 days before the deadline?? I don't know.

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    I didn't say he shouldn't have answered and I'm not suggesting that he wasn't truly shocked by it. Maybe he was..? I'm simply saying I can't understand his complaint about Presti only giving him an hour. I guess I'm working under the assumption that people think about enormous issues like this well in advance. Maybe James gave absolutely no thought to contract nego ions prior than 5 days before the deadline?? I don't know.
    Sometimes when you are faced with an ultimatum, it really throws you through a loop. Maybe Harden thought that they had until next summer to come to an agreement, who knows. Harden is a very religious person and stated that he wanted to go home and pray about. He was allowed no such luxury after given said ultimatum. I can see how that can rub someone the wrong way.

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    Sometimes when you are faced with an ultimatum, it really throws you through a loop. Maybe Harden thought that they had until next summer to come to an agreement, who knows. Harden is a very religious person and stated that he wanted to go home and pray about. He was allowed no such luxury after given said ultimatum. I can see how that can rub someone the wrong way.
    I don't know. I've got nothing against him whatsoever. Maybe he was misguided by his agent. On the flip side of what you said, I can also understand why it would rub Presti the wrong way when he's offering $55M of the organizations money and Harden doesn't respond. Let's say 1 hour is unreasonable to Harden. Should his corner at not least offer up the courtesy of a response to say...ok, hey we're interested...any possibility of an additional X hours? It's my understanding Harden's at dinner, offers no response, then gets called at dinner being notified of the trade. Whether you agree with the deadline or not, the GM just gave one and you should probably respond in some manner rather than continuing your meal, agreed?

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    I don't know. I've got nothing against him whatsoever. Maybe he was misguided by his agent. On the flip side of what you said, I can also understand why it would rub Presti the wrong way when he's offering $55M of the organizations money and Harden doesn't respond. Let's say 1 hour is unreasonable to Harden. Should his corner at not least offer up the courtesy of a response to say...ok, hey we're interested...any possibility of an additional X hours? It's my understanding Harden's at dinner, offers no response, then gets called at dinner being notified of the trade. Whether you agree with the deadline or not, the GM just gave one and you should probably respond in some manner rather than continuing your meal, agreed?

    "Harden, through his agent, said he needed three days. Presti stood firm on one hour.

    And 60 minutes later, Presti called the Rockets and consummated a rare NBA October blockbuster trade.
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    edit: click on "three days" for the link, don't know why it's not showing up like a normal hyperlink.

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    "Harden, through his agent, said he needed three days. Presti stood firm on one hour.

    And 60 minutes later, Presti called the Rockets and consummated a rare NBA October blockbuster trade.
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    And he specifically told Harden, to my understanding, that he would be traded to Houston in 60 minutes. I respect Harden's decision. It's his career and it might be what he needed to further his career in the manner he saw fit. I can appreciate that. I'm just a little hesitant to understand how Harden had not thought about this months in advance, preparing himself for this type of situation. Then again, maybe he was SO confident that he would sign with OKC one way or another that he had not thought of trade possibilities. I think, though, that Harden makes the same exact decision 3 days later regardless, had Presti given him the 3 more days he requested. But Houston wanted an answer right then as well. They wanted it done quick so they had time to negotiate with Harden.

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    No, I'm not emotional or angry about it. Its just the way I am. I'm not bragging, but I'm a mentally tough person and I was always taught not to and moan about things and make excuses. It's who I am. Harden seems like a good kid. WIsh he woulda stayed, but I'm also happy to have Martin on board. It just irritates me to see these kids and moan...I hate ing and moaning, whether its basketball related or not. I respect the way Presti handled it, period. I don't like complainers. Harden is complaining. I only had an hour. Please. People need to show respect, regardless of how great they are. Sometimes you humble yourself. Yeah, you're important to the team, but this wasn't just sprung on Harden. Someone's offering you $55M and gives you a deadline. Man up and respond one way or another. Don't ignore the man, your boss, then complain about how it all went down.
    This post is full of comedy gold, but the highlighted part takes the cake. I suppose it's possible that you're really not aware what you've done in this thread, but you've made excuse after excuse for the actions taken by Presti and the OKC franchise.

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    This post is full of comedy gold, but the highlighted part takes the cake. I suppose it's possible that you're really not aware what you've done in this thread, but you've made excuse after excuse for the actions taken by Presti and the OKC franchise.
    I support what Presti did, yes. I also understand that perhaps Harden made the right decision for himself on a personal level and I can appreciate that too. Ive conceded that perhaps Harden was misguided or was not prepared for such a trade deadline, although I still don't understand the necessity to put up much of a complaint about only having 1 hour, given the fact that he surely had months prior to this to align his priorities before the deadline. In the end, Harden, by not responding in the allotted time, made his decision and I fully support that decision. As I've stated, that might have been the best thing for him on a professional level. I'm not concerned with what you find comical or any incorrect assumptions you appear to hold about me.

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    I'm not concerned with what you find comical
    Okay then.

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    This post is full of comedy gold, but the highlighted part takes the cake. I suppose it's possible that you're really not aware what you've done in this thread, but you've made excuse after excuse for the actions taken by Presti and the OKC franchise.
    Where's my excuse? And what is my excuse? I'm not making an excuse. You're 100% wrong, buddy. Would I have rather Harden stayed? YES. Am I angry or upset that he didn't? NO. I concede that I don't know everything about running an NBA franchise. I concede that Presti was in a position and did what he thought was best. I also understand that James Harden possibly made the best long-term decision for himself. There's no excuses or anger. Just a simple failure for me to fully understand why Harden seemingly had such a big issue with the 1 hour deadline, given all I've said. I don't think Harden knew what he wanted. Ive said for months to my fellow fans that I felt perhaps he wanted to leave and be the big dog somewhere, out of KD and RW's shadow - understandable. Maybe his indecision and inability to be able to accept in 1 hour was indeed a blessing in disguise for him. When push comes to shove and you can't jump at the decision to stay in OKC for what amounted to $2M off the max per year, maybe that's the sign that you want out - again, understandable given his talent and what he could do as a franchise player.

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    Where's my excuse? And what is my excuse? I'm not making an excuse. You're 100% wrong, buddy. Would I have rather Harden stayed? YES. Am I angry or upset that he didn't? NO. I concede that I don't know everything about running an NBA franchise. I concede that Presti was in a position and did what he thought was best. I also understand that James Harden possibly made the best long-term decision for himself. There's no excuses or anger. Just a simple failure for me to fully understand why Harden seemingly had such a big issue with the 1 hour deadline, given all I've said. I don't think Harden knew what he wanted. Ive said for months to my fellow fans that I felt perhaps he wanted to leave and be the big dog somewhere, out of KD and RW's shadow - understandable. Maybe his indecision and inability to be able to accept in 1 hour was indeed a blessing in disguise for him. When push comes to shove and you can't jump at the decision to stay in OKC for what amounted to $2M off the max per year, maybe that's the sign that you want out - again, understandable given his talent and what he could do as a franchise player.


    So, after telling me that you didn't care what I thought, you go on another long, hysterical tirade that just proves my point. Son, you may think that you're mentally tough, but your posts are written in the style of an emo, 13 year old girl.

    One more thing. If you don't realize that you're a Presti apologist, the you're completely delusional.

    Comedy gold.

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    So, after telling me that you didn't care what I thought, you go on another long, hysterical tirade that just proves my point. Son, you may think that you're mentally tough, but your posts are written in the style of an emo, 13 year old girl.

    One more thing. If you don't realize that you're a Presti apologist, the you're completely delusional.

    Comedy gold.

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