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Well then Tlong is the last of the Mexicans
Nah, WC shot all the Oregonian Mexicans
Well then Tlong is the last of the Mexicans
Bull .#1) If a republi had been in office the last four years- things would be a lot worse-- A LOT WORSE.
#2) You and your ilk would be saying how great the country was doing, the stock mkt is great, this would be great, that would be great, and you would be touting osama is dead, blah-blah
#3) The fact that white people like you have had to live under a black prez and you whiteys got your panties all twisted by this fact was worth the last 4 years- all by itself.
So, the answer to my question, since you either can't or won't answer it, is that during economic downturns, the deficit will rise for no other reason than tax revenue falls off, leading to higher deficits.
This is not really a "spending spree" on the part of anyone.
Realistically, you can place the stimulus at the feet of the president, but the entire deficit? That isn't quite fair or honest.
Since I am honest, and actually interested in the truth, I will answer your question:
I don't think he has been overly effective in dealing with the deficit. He has extended the Bush tax cuts, making them far, far, worse than they would have been otherwise.
That said, he is running against a person and a party that seems to think that tax cuts will magically make everything better. They won't.
Romney is about as irresponsible as they come in that department. "Magic tax cut ponies for everyone!"
Cutting taxes on the "job creators" is another hollow, failed idea.
Sorry, I got tired of failed ideas years ago.
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An entire thread sponsored by our local economist about what other economists say, i.e. "supply side" is stupid: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201986
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Last edited by RandomGuy; 11-06-2012 at 01:05 PM.
At least Romney has proposed capping federal spending at 20% of GDP. That is showing more fiscal responsibility than Obama has ever shown. It doesn't matter now that Obama looks like he will win the election. I think we are in BIG trouble!So, the answer to my question, since you either can't or won't answer it, is that during economic downturns, the deficit will rise for no other reason than tax revenue falls off, leading to higher deficits.
This is not really a "spending spree" on the part of anyone.
Realistically, you can place the stimulus at the feet of the president, but the entire deficit? That isn't quite fair or honest.
Since I am honest, and actually interested in the truth, I will answer your question:
I don't think he has been overly effective in dealing with the deficit. He has extended the Bush tax cuts, making them far, far, worse than they would have been otherwise.
That said, he is running against a person and a party that seems to think that tax cuts will magically make everything better. They won't.
Romney is about as irresponsible as they come in that department. "Magic tax cut ponies for everyone!"
Cutting taxes on the "job creators" is another hollow, failed idea.
Sorry, I got tired of failed ideas years ago.
(edit:
An entire thread sponsored by our local economist about what other economists say, i.e. "supply side" is stupid: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201986
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Sucks to be white, a bigot and have to live with the fact that your prez is a black man. (ok half black)
I love watching you suffer!!!!!
you all are fools... politics will no way, shape, or form better you or society as a whole. politics are for chumps. yall don't have a stake in what's going on and that's fact.
If only you had a clue.
Sucks to be white, a bigot and have to live with the fact that your prez is a black man. (ok half black)
I love watching you suffer!!!!!
so what happens to the funds romney raise? all going to offschore accounts? or in a fund to be later use 4 years later for another campaign?
i wonder if his going to write a book like palin? lol fail
How wrong you are. I only shoot illegal Mexicans.
(facepalm)
When the economy shrinks, that % automatically goes up, as has pretty much been pointed out to you already.
When the economy shrinks, demand for subsidized health care, food stamps, and unemployment insurance all go up pushing up spending.
Do you want these things to suddenly get cut, right when people need them most?
That is what would be required for such a plan.
(if you can't, or won't answer that question, I can only conclude you bought Romney's plan, and didn't think about what would be required, ala, "magic ponies" would make this nice sounding thing happen)
He is speech early this morning was how it should be done.
You mean the concession speech? Although he looked on the verge of coming unhinged, that was the most human I have ever seen him. He was almost relatable.
Yeah, and I'm sure many on the far right thought he was too nice.
You just don't get it. We simply cannot keep increasing the debt in the manner Obama has and will continue to do. At least Romney recognizes this simple fact. Obama is completely blind to it. You have to recognize the problem first.(facepalm)
When the economy shrinks, that % automatically goes up, as has pretty much been pointed out to you already.
When the economy shrinks, demand for subsidized health care, food stamps, and unemployment insurance all go up pushing up spending.
Do you want these things to suddenly get cut, right when people need them most?
That is what would be required for such a plan.
(if you can't, or won't answer that question, I can only conclude you bought Romney's plan, and didn't think about what would be required, ala, "magic ponies" would make this nice sounding thing happen)
tlong, the problem is your team sucks and they keep sucking by drafting busted s. btw, politics are stupid and no one but the behind the scenes fools should speak of politics as if they know anything about anything.
You mistook lip service for actual recognition.
You do realize that during the last debt ceiling debate, Obama put forth a willingness to cut en lement growth, i.e. curbing spending, if the GOP would agree to some tax increases, right?
You are factually mistaken if you say "Obama is blind to it", on that basis.
AND
You completely ignored my question, not that I am surprised. Saddened a bit, but not surprised.
Do you think that we can cut spending as the only way out of the current mess, with no tax increases?
A simple yes or no will do.
I assure you Obama is not blind to it. He is kicking the can down the road for now to make sure we aren't all standing in bread lines. He doesn't have much to work with especially as far as help from the republicans who put party before country to try to kick him out of office and block everything he and the democrats have proposed.
Also it is very telling that Romney's own state hates him so much that the majority of them voted for Obama even with our economy in the crapper and our ty appearance to the rest of the world. If he can't pass the smell test in the state he was governor I think that says all we need to know about Romney. His snide remarks also did not help his cause. He was about as unlikeable as they come.
Before you attack me let me add a disclaimer I voted republican the last 3 elections. But those assholes, party before country ain't gonna fly with me.
And don't get me started on Romneys "Plan" Cut spending, cut taxes create jobs!! 12 million of them!!! Ya good luck with that buddy. Cutting spending and taxes lolz....
No, I don't think we can get out of this mess by cutting spending without a tax increase.
The problem is that Obama is not going to reduce the national debt. I'll bet you $100 right now that the national debt is greater than it is now when his 4 years are up. That is a fundamental problem.
I don't disagree with you there. I am sure we are screwed no matter who is in office right now. People love to blame the president, but where we are now is the result of many many years of poor policy and no budgetary discipline. It is not Obama's fault. He was handed a sandwich and handcuffed by 2 or 3 years of nothing but filibusters. Romney lost because he is out of touch with most of America. Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Women and the middle and lower class. It's kind of hard to win a presidency when this is the case.
How are you letting Obama off the hook here??? When he went into office the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House. And yet he has never got a budget to pass! I agree with most of the reasons you listed why Romney lost. That is a shame too since the issues that dominated those demographics should be subordinate to the issue of the national debt.
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