It's awesome to try and understand how they're viewing the news from their alternate universe viewpoint. (Paraphrasing)
"Do you think Romney should have been more negative? Did the voters not know how bad the economy was?"
"A lot of voters thought that Obama inherited a bad economy from Bush... don't they know they're wrong, and that's unfair?"
"Obama won... that means he will have to work even more hand in hand with Republicans to accomplish his legacy!"
This article, written by a former Bush cabinet member, I think embodies the complete disconnect between neocons and the public:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...oes-from-here/
And that's the reason neocons should be kicked out of the party ASAP, IMO.
"Romney didn't push Benghazi enough! The President lied!"
Add the punchlines as you hear them.
"Chinese Jeeps!"
that was a good read. btw, how do you like Christie in NJ? is he more of the same?
I was just talking about that earlier in another thread. I think he's changed after Sandy. I think he faced first-hand a calamity of such magnitude that made him understand that "government help" and "FEMA" aren't bad words or just en lement programs. They can largely help people. He's changed his tone lately, and that Christie, the uniter vs the old confrontational one, has grown on me, and I think if he keeps under that tone, he could have a shot in the future.
"If Obama embraces a less-regulatory presidency, then I think business will grow"
Uhm... did an election not just occur tonight?
honestly, i have no idea who the Repugs (
I think this isn't about a particular guy. The GOP is going to have to think about the message going forward, at least on specific areas where the demographics are changing. I think any of those guys can deliver the message, but the message coming from the party itself will have to change. Not a lot, just very specific stuff that I pointed out in the other thread. I don't buy what the neocon article said about doubling-down and that Mitt only lost because conservatives didn't buy his message. I think conservatives and a good share of right-leaning independents did vote for Mitt, but it's no longer enough.honestly, i have no idea who the Repugs (
As far as Christie and what he did with the pension reform, I think reform needed to happen, but he went the confrontational/bully way. While some pensions did need to get gutted, some others were still solvent and being paid for (ie: police/fire fighters) and he still killed them. But again, I know it's still recent, but his tone has changed since Sandy, and I think he's learned a few lessons. I know New Jersey could use some unity after the storm and the unemployment being sky high.
Still ing hilarious...
"Obama tried to soak the rich, don't people know that even if you tax rich people you can't pay off the entire debt?"
"People though Obama did good on Sandy, thought they may change their tune since not everybody is sheltered and fed"...
Ok, and this is almost a literal quote
"I still can't get gasoline, and it's confounding that the President hasn't gotten gas up here".... who the is this host?
Edit: His name is Greg Jarrett, and man is this guy a carrying water for Republicans.
good points. i have no idea what the GOP should do, i'm no republican. I do agree with you that their message has been muddled for awhile, and they clearly don't know how to define it. I think Mitt was a better candidate than McCain, but that's like saying Carson Palmer is better than Kevin Kolb. so ultimately they screwed the pooch again. It really just seems that people prefer their in bents, at least until they become toxic.
They tried alll weekend to act as if Obama had done a poor job with the hurricane by showing that not everything was perfect - as if it could be in 5 or 6 days!"People though Obama did good on Sandy, thought they may change their tune since not everybody is sheltered and fed"...
Ok, and this is almost a literal quote
"I still can't get gasoline, and it's confounding that the President hasn't gotten gas up here.
To the board conservative's credit, at least I don't hear any of them saying, "America is dooooomeeed!" All the people saying that can go jump off a cliff for all I care. If you think America is doomed, leave it then.
tbh, hardly any have posted tonight
Romney also gracefully conceded, and it appears nobody from the red team that has the power to, is going to try to win through the courts. That's a blue team thing.
True, but I don't think that any of them will stoop that low. I have some respect for my worthy foes.
I think the GOP is likely to win entire control of Congress in 2 years. So this is definitely not the end of the world. But I also think that might be a double-edged sword: when they won the house last time, they took that as validation and went even more extreme, including complete gridlock. I'm hoping they learned their lesson this time around. They don't have to give Barry all he wants, but they must at least work on certain issues where there's some semblance of agreement and get things done. People notice when the government is getting stuff done. That would be a good start looking at 2016.
Fox was Romney's running mate ....... every time I turned on Fox during these elections, it was all about how Obama did something wrong or how he ed up ........
"Obama just found a cure for cancer."
Fox News: How long did the president have the cure and why didn't he develop the cure earlier????
We disagree.
Romney camp was already preparing a challenge in Ohio until they saw that Ohio did not matter.
I was saying that before the election. We are doomed as long as we elect the type of congress members we keep electing. This election doesn't matter who the president is. Congress sucks.
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