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    Well, tomorrow we will see how close Nate Silver is.

    Popular Vote
    Obama 50.9%
    Romney 48.2 %

    Obama:
    Ohio
    Wisconsin
    Nevada
    Iowa
    New Hampshire
    Colorado
    Virginia

    Florida is listed as a toss up but he gives the slight edge to Obama (53% chance of Obama winning Florida)

    Romney:
    North Carolina

    A month ago it was pretty hard to conceive of Obama winning 8/9 of these states - or even 7/9, but that is what he is predicting. From what I have read, the Romney camp really thought they would win Iowa for sure. I am curious about Colorado.

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    Im not so sure about florida, especially with what we have seen, florida does mantain its reputaiton very well. i know the arguments 8 hours that sucks, the other is well if people are willing to wait 4 hours to vote that must entail enthusiasm.
    i wouldnt put obamas chances of winning at 92, just at like 70. 08 was so based on enthusiasm and in this year its hard to quantify that. if it was just registered voters obama would win in a beatdown.
    the enthusiasm gap really hits home in ohio. obama has the auto bailout advantage and then romney has the "we aint voting for you its against obama" votes. hard to inspire other people to hop along if they dont despite him.

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    Polls are all over the place in Florida:

    NBC Obama 49-47

    PPP Obama 50-49

    Reuters 47-47

    Mason Dixon has Romney up by 5
    I think Romney pandering to Netanyahu has given him enough of the Miami Beach Jew vote where Obama is gonna need a huge black voter turnout in Florida to have a chance. We'll see I guess.

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    People must be pretty inspired if they will wait in line 6 hours to vote. Actually, I think they are pissed, but that is a good motivator, as well.

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    So if the model had existed --which it did not-- at the time of those elections then if they had made a prediction based on the model it would have been correct.

    Are you familiar with the term 'predicted' or better yet the notion of how past tense works. Past tense means sometime in the past the action took place. Predict means to make known in advance. Had the model sometime in the past made known in advance an election?

    This is why I am an asshole to you. You claim to be an engineer. Do you have any notion of how models are built or how data is correlated to events? You should. Either you are stupid or you are intentionally misleading.
    Hey dumbass, I already admitted I was wrong. Stalker alert.

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    Which part of the model do you have a problem with, Darrin?

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    He has Florida as a complete toss up. The margin of error in his model is 2.7 for that state and the margin of victory for Obama is .2 so you really can't say which way its going.

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    Which part of the model do you have a problem with, Darrin?
    The input. Sorry, but I don't have much faith in the polling data.

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    The input. Sorry, but I don't have much faith in the polling data.
    What in your experience has led you to that conclusion?

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    The input. Sorry, but I don't have much faith in the polling data.
    Because its long history of being an accurate indicator of who will win?



    Sounds about right from you. Discount the tool that has been been an accurate indicator for decades because you don't like what it tells you.

    Par for the course. Don't ever change, Darrin.

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    He has a new one up. It looks like his official polling.

    315.2-222.8 in favor of Obama

    And he has Obama at a 53 percent chance of taking Florida

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    also 92 percent chance that Obama wins

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    Hey dumbass, I already admitted I was wrong. Stalker alert.
    Again, it's obvious that you were wrong. I am still waiting for an explanation as to why you thought that a paper that never mentioned that it predicted that and clearly stated that it was retroactively correct instead said that it had predicted the former. We know that oyu were wrong. What I am trying to figure out is how you came to the incorrect conclusions.

    It's pretty evident that you did not read the paper or you are intentionally lying. Did you get it from a mailer who was trying to mislead us or were you trying to mislead us? Or did the conclusion that you came to magically appear in your head?

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    I think Obama wins all of the swing states except North Carolina and Florida.

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    And let's be clear Darrin. If you are going to come on here and post intentionally misleading material as you are wont to do then I am going to 'stalk' you. Might as well get used to it and putting me on ignore won't make me stop as I do it for the benefit of the truth or at least an attempt at trying to find it.

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    Again, it's obvious that you were wrong. I am still waiting for an explanation as to why you thought that a paper that never mentioned that it predicted that and clearly stated that it was retroactively correct instead said that it had predicted the former. We know that oyu were wrong. What I am trying to figure out is how you came to the incorrect conclusions.
    It's doesn't matter how Darrin gets the wrong answer, that's a commonplace. What's unusual is him acknowledging it.

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    Well, tomorrow we will see how close Nate Silver is.

    Popular Vote
    Obama 50.9%
    Romney 48.2 %

    Looking pretty close. Obama looks to hit 50%.

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    Well, tomorrow we will see how close Nate Silver is.

    Popular Vote
    Obama 50.9%
    Romney 48.2 %

    Obama:
    Ohio
    Wisconsin
    Nevada
    Iowa
    New Hampshire
    Colorado
    Virginia

    Florida is listed as a toss up but he gives the slight edge to Obama (53% chance of Obama winning Florida)

    Romney:
    North Carolina

    A month ago it was pretty hard to conceive of Obama winning 8/9 of these states - or even 7/9, but that is what he is predicting. From what I have read, the Romney camp really thought they would win Iowa for sure. I am curious about Colorado.
    It's hysterical how accurate all of this was while conservatives were turning Silver into a punching bag when he probably gave Romney too much of a chance

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    Turns out that polls that have been statistically incredibly accurate for decades remain statistically accurate even if you close your eyes and concentrate really hard while repeating "romney will win" over and over again.

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    Turns out that polls that have been statistically incredibly accurate for decades remain statistically accurate even if you close your eyes and concentrate really hard while repeating "romney will win" over and over again.

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    lol @ rasmussen poll - plus 5 for Mitt ........


    nate silver 2016

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